truedolfan57
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did you also happen to subtract other teams who's sacks were the fault of the qb, or is that only good for the dolphins qb?
Why overcomplicate things?
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did you also happen to subtract other teams who's sacks were the fault of the qb, or is that only good for the dolphins qb?
When linemen consistently get destroyed off the line of scrimmage in one on one situations, likes ours do, you're not going to be good. Just saying "objective" evidence followed by Tannehill sucks, is just you being a troll. No normal person has the time to go back and watch tape of these games and put into "objective" statistics how often fat ****s like John Jerry let linemen in untouched. I'm pretty sure it's universally accepted that the dolphins have a bottom 5 O Lines, horrible play calling and poor WR play. The only thing I really place the blame on the quarterback for us this year was RT17's inability to connect on the deep ball to Wallace. When you can't run the ball, the defense can just tee off in their pass rush against a weak O line. The Colts won a super bowl in that fashion, having a high octane offense that forced the other team to play from behind, and let Dwight Freeny and Matias go to work.
Tannehill is serviceable and has upside but the line play needs to get better and the play calling needs to be less predictable, see Go for pass and GO GO for run lol.
Tannehill is serviceable and has upside but the line play needs to get better and the play calling needs to be less predictable, see Go for pass and GO GO for run lol.
The point is that the team was just a few sacks from the average range in the league in terms of its ratio of sacks to passing dropbacks. 58 sacks may seem like a lot, but when you put it in the context of how many times the team dropped back to pass, its meaning changes.
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Actually those data are readily available on Pro Football Focus.
johngarryvo
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how bout we say we sucked.. and need to get hella better? that work?
of course he didn't, he's a know nothing troll. its also impossible to measure how many of those sacks are from horrible play calling or a result of being forced into situations where your offense is forced into "passing" situations because of previous bad play at other positions.
truedolfan57
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how do you know that? what if every qb was responsible for 1/4 of the sacks on their team? or more?
Well then if it's impossible to know, how do you know?
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Regardless of who was responsible for the sacks, if the Dolphins would've had 54 instead of 58, they would've been in the average range in the league in terms of the ratio of sacks to pass dropbacks.
How do I know what? How do I know that having at least a serviceable offensive line is a huge part of having a team capable of making the playoffs? Your theory that line play is insignificant to quarterback play just shows your ignorance about how football is actually played.
Well I'm sure happy to be steered in the right direction by any objective evidence that Ryan Tannehill's play correlated with that of the offensive line in 2013. I don't suppose you'll be providing that, however.
And by the way, your theory that having a serviceable offensive line -- assuming you mean that "serviceable" is significantly better than the Dolphins' line -- is a huge part of having a team capable of making the playoffs is inconsistent with the available data regarding the offensive line on the team that just won the Super Bowl.
I don't expect any of this to penetrate what you think you know about the game, however. :)
truedolfan57
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woulda should coulda. they didn't. they got 58. which is not average. 58 sacks is worse in the league.
truedolfan57
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can you provide 3 examples of games in 2013, where the offensive line played well for 4 quarters? i think they only played one game well, in which tannehill still struggled.
my point being, it's hard to show a qb playing well, when he's getting pounded every game.
dlockz
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how do u figure that 54 would have put them in the average range. Im pretty sure that would still rank being sacked quite above average compared to the league average based on that stat.Im pretty sure the league average is not in the 8's
dlockz
Hall Of Famer
How can you argue with a person that feels we had an average line last year based on PFF. Who cares if PFF ranked 4 of our linemen in the negative and two in positive that's an average nfl line by their estimation.
Also who cares if we don't resign any of those guys that are part of that line because PFF determined they did well enough.
Well it sure sounds like your mind is made up. :)