Hey everyone,
First of all I know what a large can of worms I am playing with in starting this thread. It's not a thread to bash Marino or Tannehill and it's not a thread to say that I think Tannehill is better than Marino. I just want to present some statistics for the pure art of conversation and try to present perspective. With all that in mind, progress forward IF YOU DARE!
Marino is without question the best QB that this franchise has ever seen and is reverted by most, if not all fans, to be a Dolphin-God. Anyways, I have always looked at passer rating on NFL.com and kept up with stats that way, perhaps that's a flaw, I'm not sure. I still find what I found interesting. Below is Marino's career stats with presented passer rating...
Okay. Now in looking at this chart you can see that as good as Marino was, he spent most of his career at and 85 passer rating or below. 9 seasons to be exact. You look at that and see he only went above a passer rating of 90 4 times in his career in the years of '83, '84, '86, and '95. Being above 90 is what many refer to as being a great QB, yet Marino himself barely did this. Along with this, Marino had multiple years of play around a 80 passer rating with even one year dipping into the mid 70's. Many probably would say that, "well that was probably his rookie year". First off, most fans are probably more familiar with Marino's early career than his later career. Marino had a 76.9 in 1989, producing 24 TDs and 22 interceptions. I'll let you all dive deeper into those stats if you want.
Next is Tannehill's stats over the past 3 years...
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Okay. Now the sample size is arguable. I mean we are looking at Marino's 242 games to Tannehill's 39. However, with the exception of his rookie season passer rating at 76.1, Tannehill is currently playing around the same level as Marino spent a majority of his career on.
I'm not trying to say Tannehill is better than Marino, Marino is terrible, Tannehill is great, or whatever lines that I imagine people could draw off of this thread. I'm trying to pose the question, why does Tannehill get so much flack? Marino produced early so maybe that's why, he had it clear that he could do it out of the gate. Marino's passer rating for his career was an 86.4. Tannehill's thus far through the season is an 86.1 and his career sits at an 80.
Would Marino be as crucified and questioned as Tannehill for his play? His stats, minus those 4 seasons above 90, are really not out of where Tannehill is playing right now. That is what I am trying to convey. I know people will say the game has changed, passer rating is a wasted statistic, Marino is something Tannehill never could be, etc.
I'm just curious to why so many people think Tannehill can't be our guy, perhaps it's just everyone loves the breeze coming off of that revolving door lol.
First of all I know what a large can of worms I am playing with in starting this thread. It's not a thread to bash Marino or Tannehill and it's not a thread to say that I think Tannehill is better than Marino. I just want to present some statistics for the pure art of conversation and try to present perspective. With all that in mind, progress forward IF YOU DARE!
Marino is without question the best QB that this franchise has ever seen and is reverted by most, if not all fans, to be a Dolphin-God. Anyways, I have always looked at passer rating on NFL.com and kept up with stats that way, perhaps that's a flaw, I'm not sure. I still find what I found interesting. Below is Marino's career stats with presented passer rating...
Year | Team | G | Att | Comp | Pct | Att/G | Yds | Avg | Yds/G | TD | TD% | Int | Int% | Lng | 20+ | 40+ | Sck | SckY | Rate |
1999 | Miami Dolphins | 11 | 369 | 204 | 55.3 | 33.5 | 2,448 | 6.6 | 222.5 | 12 | 3.3 | 17 | 4.6 | 62 | 37 | 5 | 9 | 66 | 67.4 |
1998 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 537 | 310 | 57.7 | 33.6 | 3,497 | 6.5 | 218.6 | 23 | 4.3 | 15 | 2.8 | 61T | 45 | 6 | 23 | 178 | 80.0 |
1997 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 548 | 319 | 58.2 | 34.2 | 3,780 | 6.9 | 236.2 | 16 | 2.9 | 11 | 2.0 | 55 | 49 | 4 | 20 | 132 | 80.7 |
1996 | Miami Dolphins | 13 | 373 | 221 | 59.2 | 28.7 | 2,795 | 7.5 | 215.0 | 17 | 4.6 | 9 | 2.4 | 74T | 39 | 10 | 18 | 131 | 87.8 |
1995 | Miami Dolphins | 14 | 482 | 309 | 64.1 | 34.4 | 3,668 | 7.6 | 262.0 | 24 | 5.0 | 15 | 3.1 | 67T | 40 | 7 | 22 | 153 | 90.8 |
1994 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 615 | 385 | 62.6 | 38.4 | 4,453 | 7.2 | 278.3 | 30 | 4.9 | 17 | 2.8 | 64T | 55 | 7 | 18 | 113 | 89.2 |
1993 | Miami Dolphins | 5 | 150 | 91 | 60.7 | 30.0 | 1,218 | 8.1 | 243.6 | 8 | 5.3 | 3 | 2.0 | 80T | 18 | 4 | 7 | 42 | 95.9 |
1992 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 554 | 330 | 59.6 | 34.6 | 4,116 | 7.4 | 257.2 | 24 | 4.3 | 16 | 2.9 | 62T | 45 | 12 | 28 | 173 | 85.1 |
1991 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 549 | 318 | 57.9 | 34.3 | 3,970 | 7.2 | 248.1 | 25 | 4.6 | 13 | 2.4 | 54 | 44 | 6 | 27 | 182 | 85.8 |
1990 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 531 | 306 | 57.6 | 33.2 | 3,563 | 6.7 | 222.7 | 21 | 4.0 | 11 | 2.1 | 69T | 0 | 0 | 15 | 90 | 82.6 |
1989 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 550 | 308 | 56.0 | 34.4 | 3,997 | 7.3 | 249.8 | 24 | 4.4 | 22 | 4.0 | 78T | 0 | 0 | 10 | 86 | 76.9 |
1988 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 606 | 354 | 58.4 | 37.9 | 4,434 | 7.3 | 277.1 | 28 | 4.6 | 23 | 3.8 | 80T | 0 | 0 | 6 | 31 | 80.8 |
1987 | Miami Dolphins | 12 | 444 | 263 | 59.2 | 37.0 | 3,245 | 7.3 | 270.4 | 26 | 5.9 | 13 | 2.9 | 59T | 0 | 0 | 9 | 77 | 89.2 |
1986 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 623 | 378 | 60.7 | 38.9 | 4,746 | 7.6 | 296.6 | 44 | 7.1 | 23 | 3.7 | 85T | 0 | 0 | 17 | 119 | 92.5 |
1985 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 567 | 336 | 59.3 | 35.4 | 4,137 | 7.3 | 258.6 | 30 | 5.3 | 21 | 3.7 | 73 | 0 | 0 | 18 | 157 | 84.1 |
1984 | Miami Dolphins | 16 | 564 | 362 | 64.2 | 35.2 | 5,084 | 9.0 | 317.8 | 48 | 8.5 | 17 | 3.0 | 80T | 0 | 0 | 13 | 120 | 108.9 |
1983 | Miami Dolphins | 11 | 296 | 173 | 58.4 | 26.9 | 2,210 | 7.5 | 200.9 | 20 | 6.8 | 6 | 2.0 | 85T | 0 | 0 | 10 | 80 | 96.0 |
TOTAL | 242 | 8,358 | 4,967 | 59.4 | 34.5 | 61,361 | 7.3 | 253.6 | 420 | 5.0 | 252 | 3.0 | 85 | 372 | 61 | 270 | 1,930 | 86.4 |
Okay. Now in looking at this chart you can see that as good as Marino was, he spent most of his career at and 85 passer rating or below. 9 seasons to be exact. You look at that and see he only went above a passer rating of 90 4 times in his career in the years of '83, '84, '86, and '95. Being above 90 is what many refer to as being a great QB, yet Marino himself barely did this. Along with this, Marino had multiple years of play around a 80 passer rating with even one year dipping into the mid 70's. Many probably would say that, "well that was probably his rookie year". First off, most fans are probably more familiar with Marino's early career than his later career. Marino had a 76.9 in 1989, producing 24 TDs and 22 interceptions. I'll let you all dive deeper into those stats if you want.
Next is Tannehill's stats over the past 3 years...
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Okay. Now the sample size is arguable. I mean we are looking at Marino's 242 games to Tannehill's 39. However, with the exception of his rookie season passer rating at 76.1, Tannehill is currently playing around the same level as Marino spent a majority of his career on.
I'm not trying to say Tannehill is better than Marino, Marino is terrible, Tannehill is great, or whatever lines that I imagine people could draw off of this thread. I'm trying to pose the question, why does Tannehill get so much flack? Marino produced early so maybe that's why, he had it clear that he could do it out of the gate. Marino's passer rating for his career was an 86.4. Tannehill's thus far through the season is an 86.1 and his career sits at an 80.
Would Marino be as crucified and questioned as Tannehill for his play? His stats, minus those 4 seasons above 90, are really not out of where Tannehill is playing right now. That is what I am trying to convey. I know people will say the game has changed, passer rating is a wasted statistic, Marino is something Tannehill never could be, etc.
I'm just curious to why so many people think Tannehill can't be our guy, perhaps it's just everyone loves the breeze coming off of that revolving door lol.