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You Just Might Be A Guskateer

adamprez2003 said:
You Just might be a Guskateer......

1) If you continue to use that sorry argument that AJ will throw interceptions for touchdowns even though he hasnt done that since December 5th and has pretty much proven that wont be a problem anymore...you just might be a Guskateer

2) If you complained that Feeley didnt use his secondary options after the first preseason game and raved about Gus even though he played against the 2nd string and his best passes were luck, then declared that dropped passes are the fault of Feeley in the 2nd game, then changed your argument in the 3rd game complaining that Feeley now wasnt throwing the ball downfield enough, then defended Frerotte because HIS receivers were dropping passes on him in the 4th game and downplayed Feeley's performance because HE was playing against the 2nd string......you just might be a Guskateer.

3) If you rave about "pocket presence" or "feel" but feel 4 sacks, two fumbles( one for a touchdown), one interception (one near pick for a touchdown) dont make that argument ridiculous.....you just might be a Guskateer.

4) If you use the fact that Gus was in a Pro Bowl last millenium as a basis to believe he might do it again....you just might be a Guskateer.

5) If you believe that hitting a blade of grass 50 yards down the field is better than hitting a receiver in stride 8 yards down the field........you just might be a Guskateer

6) If you believe a 46% completion average and a 59 qb rating is the fault of receivers not leaping ten feet in the air to make the catch.....you just might be a Guskateer


There's more but that's enough for now. Feeley free to add your own
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1) Interceptions that are run back are a function of the offense's ability to tackle. Other than that, a pick is a pick. Who leads the race of shame? Who cares. Neither QB has proven he can lead this franchise.

2) Just doesn't even make enough sense to address. Luck? How do you measure 'luck'? Gus overthrowns receivers and Feeley is mostly successful throwing underneath. Feeley locks in on receivers and results in INTs. Neither QB has proven he can lead this franchise.

3) Can you say "bad protection", especially behind the both 1st and 2nd string line early in the preseason behind which both QBs were sucker punched. Neither QB has proven he can lead this franchise.

4) If anyone uses that argument, offer them Warner or Garcia. Neither QB has proven he can lead this franchise.

5) Both QBs have done that and neither QB has proven he can lead this franchise.

6) Picking one game stats will get you into trouble. Don't believe me? Look at Feeley's one game stats his first game starting last year. Besides, two critical passes should have been caught. You can't hit a receiver in the hands and not expect him to catch it. Neither QB has proven he can lead this franchise.
 
adamprez2003 said:
2) I am happy when Dolphins are in the Pro Bowl. I will go out on a limb and say that Gus will never see the pro bowl again. Call me crazy but I dont see the other 31 quarterbacks completing less than 30% of their passes
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Your optimistic, don't push it to 50% or anything. And theres only 15 other QBs that would "have to complete less than 30% of their passes."
 
rafael said:
Are you saying that you think Linehan and Saban are Guskateers?

You know it could also be that those who think AJ should start just lack the ability to analyze QB play. They see words like "feel" or "pocket presence" as magical and mysterious and don't really know what they mean.
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Yes. These are mind boggling concepts to us simplistic Feeley folk. We simple folk simply cant see past passes being overthrown by 10 yards and fumbles returned for touchdowns and the accuracy of Stevie Wonder being secondary to that holy grail of pocket presence and feel
 
dolphinfan2k5 said:
Your optimistic, don't push it to 50% or anything. And theres only 15 other QBs that would "have to complete less than 30% of their passes."
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LOL. Think you're right
 
adamprez2003 said:
Yes. These are mind boggling concepts to us simplistic Feeley folk. We simple folk simply cant see past passes being overthrown by 10 yards and fumbles returned for touchdowns and the accuracy of Stevie Wonder being secondary to that holy grail of pocket presence and feel
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You keep saying fumble returned for touchdown, but that is really uncontrollabale. Yes he should have gotten that ball away, did he make a decision that his receivers were not open and wait to long to tuck it... Who knows, but you can't control how a fumble bounces or how far it gets returned.
 
adamprez2003 said:
Yes. These are mind boggling concepts to us simplistic Feeley folk. We simple folk simply cant see past passes being overthrown by 10 yards and fumbles returned for touchdowns and the accuracy of Stevie Wonder being secondary to that holy grail of pocket presence and feel
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I think the coaching staff would agree with this statement.
 
adamprez2003 said:
1) 3 regular season games 4 preseason games (approx 1 full game) without that problem. Being that he was thrown into the season last year on an offensive line that was the very definition of the term offensive and it took a few games to get adjusted to being in the middle of a jailbreak every time he went back to pass I would say you have to give him a break for those first few games. Once he got his bearings staright that problem disappeared and it hasnt reappeared this preseason. To believe that Feeley will revert to that form is about as likely as Peyton Manning reverting to his rookie form. Its called the learning curve.

2) I am happy when Dolphins are in the Pro Bowl. I will go out on a limb and say that Gus will never see the pro bowl again. Call me crazy but I dont see the other 31 quarterbacks completing less than 30% of their passes
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How moronic. Somehow, by your calculations, 4 games in a row without screwing up is a sign that Feeley has crossed some sort of quarterbacking threshold. Moreover, to equate that to a Manning regression is absurd. I think both QBs are lame but their lameness pales in comparison to this argument and this post. I will say I agree with you that the probowl years are behind Gus, but unfortunately, they were never ahead for AJ.
 
If Saban called AJ the starter for the season. I would be surprised. That is what it will come down to. Saban makes the call. What Will Saban do? I think he will go with the guy who led our team down the field against the TB Bucanneers for a TD. Against the real defense and not the guys who are about to look for a job.
 
Celtkin said:
Neither QB has proven he can lead this franchise.
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Exactly, thats why you can put me in the 'I DONT CARE ANYMORE' category.

For all the points you list Gus sucking in, AJ sucks just as bad in other areas. :(

Hence, no matter who we start, 99% of the time we will get the same end result in the win/loss column.

I just hope we can win a couple of the first few games so when Ricky gets back we can have a chance at a semi decent season...maybe 8-8.
 
dolphinfan2k5 said:
You keep saying fumble returned for touchdown, but that is really uncontrollabale. Yes he should have gotten that ball away, did he make a decision that his receivers were not open and wait to long to tuck it... Who knows, but you can't control how a fumble bounces or how far it gets returned.
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Its really in response to the argument that Gus has pocket presence that somehow is vastly superior to Feeley. You answered in your question what Gus shouldve done on that play to avoid the fumble - throw it away or tuck it and drop. Dont take this post so seriously. I found it amusing to write and thought some others on this site would also (mostly the AJ rat pack):)
 
blaming anyone for fumbling is like blaming a kid for losing a tooth. It happens. thats all there is to it. Now if the same player lets it happen several times a game, on more then one occation, then sure. feed him to the dogs. but frerrotte hasn't gone and fumbled like that.
 
Saban4prez said:
blaming anyone for fumbling is like blaming a kid for losing a tooth. It happens. thats all there is to it. Now if the same player lets it happen several times a game, on more then one occation, then sure. feed him to the dogs. but frerrotte hasn't gone and fumbled like that.
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True. As far as career turnovers and percentages, Gus leads the race.

Like I've said before, arguing who the best QB on this team is like arguing who's the smartest kid on the 'short bus'
 
Dudeman said:
honestly, when are you going to stop? There are so many threads on the QB topic already. Why start another?
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You Just might be a Guskateer......

if you want all criticism of gus to stop........ :lol:
 
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