Zim’s Grades For The Game: Week 6 Edition

[gregorygrant83]

Or, kick the PAT there and when you score the 2nd TD decide if you want to take a shot at the win or go to OT. I don’t like reaching for points.

I think the thought is if you're considerng going for 2 pts and the win, why not do it after the first td. In that case if you miss it you still have the option of going for another 2pt conversion and tying the game. If you go for it later and miss you have no chance to make it up. Basiclly it's two 2pt conversions to make one instead of just one attempt for all the marbles.

I was ok with the pt attempt. DIdn't like the fake punt deep in Miami's territory and really hated not taking a knee with 30 seconds left in the 1st half. The offense wasn't moving the ball well enough to warrant taking that chance.

 

[phinphan4life]

Will add Zim
OL grade Z - streak of pen's holding, illegal down field stoped at least a FG attempt or two early.
Could really of helped the D by putting score board pressure early on the Vikes.
S/T grade E - yes Morstead played ok but we need to find some returners real quick. Don't like the idea of using Hill/Holland back there and Hill nearly fumbled early.
Coaching yes poor at times but do give some credit to MM with the fake fumble, if Figjam could hold onto the ball we get a 1st down. Guts again on 4th and 5 and getting it.
I give Roberts a bit more credit with 1.5 sacks that no one saw coming but also solidified a very good run D until the 53 yarder.

The ineligible downfield on Williams was easily the most egregious of that sequence of penalties. Like what in the actual was he doing on that play? There is no plausible reason for him to be downfield at all, much less that far downfield.

 

[royalshank]

The ineligible downfield on Williams was easily the most egregious of that sequence of penalties. Like what in the actual was he doing on that play? There is no plausible reason for him to be downfield at all, much less that far downfield.

Mental lapse? We get called for this every week

 

[royalshank]

I think the thought is if you're considerng going for 2 pts and the win, why not do it after the first td. In that case if you miss it you still have the option of going for another 2pt conversion and tying the game. If you go for it later and miss you have no chance to make it up. Basiclly it's two 2pt conversions to make one instead of just one attempt for all the marbles.

I was ok with the pt attempt. DIdn't like the fake punt deep in Miami's territory and really hated not taking a knee with 30 seconds left in the 1st half. The offense was moving the ball well enough to warrant taking that chance.

I thought the fake punt was ok (the call) though it was only a yard to go. Perhaps just line up and run Ingold? Yeah end of the half - just get out and regroup

 

[AdamD13]

I think the thought is if you're considerng going for 2 pts and the win, why not do it after the first td. In that case if you miss it you still have the option of going for another 2pt conversion and tying the game. If you go for it later and miss you have no chance to make it up. Basiclly it's two 2pt conversions to make one instead of just one attempt for all the marbles.

I was ok with the pt attempt. DIdn't like the fake punt deep in Miami's territory and really hated not taking a knee with 30 seconds left in the 1st half. The offense wasn't moving the ball well enough to warrant taking that chance.

I have thought this for years.

I don’t know how many times I have heard announcers say to kick the XP and then go for two to tie on the final TD. Mostly it happens when a team is down by 15 and scores a TD.

Clueless. If you are going to go for two, best to play it the way McD did.

 

[phinphan4life]

Mental lapse? We get called for this every week

I'd be more forgiving/understanding if the play was an RPO or play action. At least those play types are designed to look like a run. A screen play? Absolutely. Ineligible downfield could be called on those about 75% of time, no matter what team it is. But this was a straight up pass play, and as poorly as our O-line has performed, you would think that the center would be trying to preserve the integrity of the pocket. Sigh

 

[MrChadRico]

Another winnable game……Another disappointing loss. There is way more than enough blame to go around and I’m about to start passing it out. Trigger Warning: A lot of you aren’t going to like this.

QB — The Good: Thompson looked confident and was actually moving the offense despite the inept OL. He had some nice throws and if it wasn’t for a series of 5 penalties and 2 dropped passes in a 7 play span, he would have had us in the lead. The other good news is the injury that knocked him out of the game was his thumb and not his head.

The Bad: Teddy Bridgewater is a below average QB. Today showed that. Admittedly, he got little help from his OL and his Head Coach. But let’s not fool ourselves….He will never lead an NFL a team to the playoffs again. The 2 picks hurt and I highly doubt he and his inconsistent ways are back next year.

The Grade: D -. The offensive line definitely contributes to the bad grade here….. But Teddy Bridgewater is below average and definitely didn’t look ready to play today.

RB’s — The Good: Mostert had 49 yards rushing with a 3.5 yard average, which isn’t horrible. Edmonds had 2 catches for 28 yards to contribute.

The Bad: Edmonds is not running the ball well at all. I cringe every time I see Mostert leave the field to be honest. Ingold is below average as a runner and a blocker. Again, our horrible OL hurts this group… However, we have 4 speed backs on the roster and only Ingold that can get any tough yards….And he’s not that good at it.

The Grade: C - . This is a position that must be addressed in the off season. Today was not great. Mostert is really the only guy I’d keep. He keeps running hard behind a putrid OL…. But we need a guy that can bang it in there and consistently get the tough yards.

WR’s — The Good: Hill again proves how good he is with 12 Catches for 177 yards. Waddle gets 129 yards on 6 catches for a decent game.

The Bad: Sherfield was the only other receiver with a catch. He had 1 for 6 yards. Waddle with an incredibly ill timed fumble. We are a 2 receiver team. That’s it.

The Grade: C +. We need our other receivers to take some pressure off Hill and Waddle. Thank God for Tyreek Hill or this wouldn’t have been a close game.

TE’s — The Good: GESICKI!! The square peg of the offense finally gets put into the square hole. Nice game from him. 6 catches for 69 yards and 2 TD’s. I’m a Gesicki fan. Period.

The Bad: Much like the receivers, not one other TE caught a ball. The Run blocking was not good either.

The Grade: C . This grade is 100% attributable to Mike Gesicki’s efforts.

OL — The Good:

The Bad: Well…. History repeats itself again. This OL’s effort today was PATHETIC. Little should retire right now. Grier’s buddy Eichenberg should consider being a shoe salesman and Brandon Shell??? Where the **** did we find this clown? Someone remind me. Pass Blocking was an actual joke today. Our OL made the Vikings look like the 85 Bears today. 6 total sacks and 14 QB hits?? That’s 20 plays where our QB was crushed. 20 PLAYS!! Pathetic.

The Grade: F . Again. This is getting really annoying.

DL — The Good: Nice sack at a great time for Raekwon Davis. Wilkins was good all day. This unit played winning football for 90% of the day…….

The Bad: The 10% that they didn’t play great came at the end of the game when we needed stops. Our DL got moved on 2 crucial plays that allowed Cook to go for 6 and then 53 yards and crushed us.

The Grade: B - . This unit got no help from the offense really. Sad. They played well all day. This loss is not really this unit’s fault.

LB’s — The Good: Phillips had half a sack and some good pressure. Ingram had a couple pressures. Roberts had 1.5 sacks. Not bad.

The Bad: Ingram cannot cover anyone. Baker with a missed tackle on Cook’s 53 Yarder.

The Grade: C . Some Good today and some bad. Regardless, this unit along with the rest of the defense deserved better. Our offense let them down.

DB’s — The Good: Noah Iggy…A guy I typically despise, played well when pressed into service today. Holland had a couple huge hits.

The Bad: X is no longer the Pro Bowler we got used to. Not A great game for him. Needham being lost for the season hurts.

The Grade: C . It would be nice to see a pick again this year. I hope Jones comes back soon.

ST’s — The Good: Morstead averaged 51.2 yards on 6 punts. Including a 63 yard bomb. That’s all.

The Bad: Sanders has become very average very fast. Missing kicks seems to be his thing now. Our coverage units SUCK. Bad day for ST’s.

The Grade: C -. This grade belongs to Morstead. Sanders and the rest of our Coverage guys would have rated an F today.

Coaching — The Good: NOT APPLICABLE.

The Bad: This is where I might piss some people off.

Mike McDaniel a genius? I think not. This loss is on him and his very average staff. You know your 2 starting tackles are out, so do you:

Throw quick slants to help your QB get the ball out of his hands quick? Nope. No slants thrown today.

Move the pocket to keep the opposing DL guessing?? Nope. Didn’t happen by design once.

How about a Jet Sweep or 2 to keep the defense honest?? Nope. Not once.

How about the RPO with either Skyler or Teddy? Nope.

What did we get? WR Bubble screens. Wasn’t there another “Genius” coach that liked to call WR Bubble screens a lot? Oh yeah….Adam Gase.

See what I’m getting at? 2 point conversion try after the late touchdown?? Really?? I don’t agree with anyone that says McDaniel is a genius. I just haven’t seen evidence of it. Boyer isn’t much better….He insists on dropping Ingram into coverage and that worked not once in 5 tries that I saw. Stupid. Danny Crossman’s Special Teams unit? Average would be a good day. How about Matt Applebaum’s OL? Easily one of the worst in this league.

This is where I blame Grier as well. How many times do we have to see our OL a look like they have no idea how to play football before something gets done.

The Grade: F!! 2 games in a row that I blame our coaching staff.

The Conclusion: We cannot keep our QB’s healthy. It’s beyond pathetic at this point. As of right now, I highly doubt we make the playoffs. I mean…..We’re now 2 games behind the Bills, 1.5 games behind the Jets and we’re tied for last place in our division with the Patriots. It’s getting harder and harder to see the light at the end of the tunnel and our “Genius” HC isn’t helping.

You coulda saved alot of effort by just saying

F-

 

[dolfan91]

Until they finally fix the OLine, might as well give them an EFFF, for the season.

 

[dolfan91]

I sure hope the light has finally gone on for Iggy. Miami's needs him.

 

[WhtCnBrwnDo4U]

The Fans deserve an A++ for having to put up with this BS for decades now. I'm almost at a point where I wish I could switch my allegiance but I can't because I love this team. We could lose 50 straight games and I'd still check in every season to see if we're any good.

It’s a sickness I tell you. Its an alcoholic knowing it’s terrible but you can’t stop.

 

[gregorygrant83]

I have thought this for years.

I don’t know how many times I have heard announcers say to kick the XP and then go for two to tie on the final TD. Mostly it happens when a team is down by 15 and scores a TD.

Clueless. If you are going to go for two, best to play it the way McD did.

Now in the case you outline, going for it later means after you score the first td and kick the extra point you only need one drive to tie. If you go for the 2pt conversion early in that case and miss then you're down 9 points and need two more scoring drives instead of one. It puts a lot more pressure on making the 2 pt attempt.

 

[gregorygrant83]

I thought the fake punt was ok (the call) though it was only a yard to go. Perhaps just line up and run Ingold? Yeah end of the half - just get out and regroup

I didn't like it from a risk reward stance. Even if they convert there it seems like the way the offense was moving the ball there wasn't a good chance of them stringing together enough 1st downs to get into scoring range. Sure there's a chance that play sparks a drive, but better chance it's three more plays and then you're still punting in your
own territory.

 

[where's th'fish]

Or, kick the PAT there and when you score the 2nd TD decide if you want to take a shot at the win or go to OT. I don’t like reaching for points.

Let me put it this way. Let's place a wager on a coin toss. The options are these: heads I win, tails you win. OR heads I win, tails I get another coin toss and I f I win that one, we tie. Which would you prefer? Waiting for the 2nd TD to go for 2 is the first option, going for 2 on the first TD is the second option.

Or don't go for it at all, if you like, but you'd be squandering 2 to 1 odds in your favor. That's why teams are doing this more and more. It's simple math.

 

[Dolph N.Fan]

This all goes back to Grier. Ross refuses to can him. Grier can’t manage a roster to save his life

 

[Atila]

You can blame McDaniels for the offenses mental lapses with the penalties, but the fact that our offense moved as well as it did with a 2nd and 3rd string QB tells me they gameplanned very well and were very effective.

Sanders missed FG, tons of penalties, and Waddle fumble… these are a lack of execution for sure, but they were in positions to succeed as an offense.

Also who is bitching about Boyer again? Called another great game and the defense played well.

Also, I believe it was Jevon Holland who missed the tackle terribly on the big run, not Baker.

The 2pt try as mentioned several times was a good idea and good math, didn’t know so many people misunderstood that.

I thought coaching was fine on both sides of the ball in that they put both units in positions to succeed. We didn’t execute on offense and that’s to be expected with 2nd and 3rd string QB and OL players. Our gameplan was remarkable to be that close all things considered.