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Dan Marino: A Football Life

Offensive talent nor having a running back was the issue for the Dolphins during Marino's years; it was defense. DVOA had their defense ranked dead last in 87, 88, 89 & 91, and in '86 defense as 27th in a 28 team league.

Yep. Even the SB team in 84/85 had a pretty mediocre defense. They may have rated fairly high in terms of scoring and yards, but that's because most their opponents were playing from behind and became one dimensional. The only time Danny played with a truly above average defense was late in his career when he was a shell of himself and JJ handcuffed him.

IMO, Marino took what would have been 8-8 type teams and made them playoff contenders. W/O Marino, those 8-8 and 9-7 teams would have been well under .500.
 
The '82 Dolphins also did well. They lost but they weren't blown out. The Bills were never going to win the game against the Redskins in '91, but they also weren't blown out.

The Steelers and Patriots lost Super Bowls towards the end of that era, but not as bad as the AFC teams that were manhandled back in the '80s, i.e. the Patriots against the Bears, Miami against the 49ers, the Broncos against everyone (especially the 49ers in '89), the Bills in their final two Super Bowls against the Cowboys, and the Chargers against the 49ers in 1994.
I guess it depends on the definition of blowout. That Bills team was beaten pretty badly by the Skins from where I sat. But point is the NFC was superior and all used the same formula of power running with bigger people in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Dan played in the wrong conference as did Elway, Kelly, Boomer etc. Shame really. Now the league is so QB biased that it doesn't matter if you have balance or good run games etc as much. The same four QBs have won like the last 10 or so SBs - Brady, manning, burger, Rodgers etc.
 
Same here. IMO, one shining example of Marino competitiveness and toughness was a MNF game against the Steelers and Greg Lloyd. All week Lloyd was running his mouth how he was gonna take Marino out (imagine that being said today). And inexplicably, Lloyd came off the edge unblocked on the 1st series of the game (even 1st play IIRC) and drilled him. A short while later, Lloyd got him again and knocked the wind out of him. But Marino grabbed him by the jersey and tried to say something to him, while still laying on the field. Nothing rattled that man.

I also think of the 1994 Playoff game against San Diego where they lost a 21-6 lead. After SD took the lead on the Mark Seay TD, there was very little time left, but I knew Marino would come through. And he did. A couple passes later, Miami was in FG range -- which of course Stoyanovich missed.

But the point I always make is this. During the prime years of his career, it's hard to recall too many instances where Marino had a chance to tie or win the game but came up short. Sure, there might have been some failed 4th down plays here and there, but usually the Dolphins lost because they were completely overmatched or simply outscored because their defense couldn't stop the opposition. More often than not, if Marino had the ball late in the game with a shot at it, he usually got it done.

As I said in another thread a while back, ABC MNF once posted a stat in the 90's that I've never been able to locate online. The gist of it was this. Most 4th Q comebacks when your team is tied or behind: 1-Elway, 2- Montana, 3- Marino. But Most 4th Q comebacks with 2-min or less remaining, the list flipped: 1-Marino, 2- Montana, 3- Elway.

Now, part of that is probably because Elway and Montana's teams weren't trailing late as often as Marino's Dolphins, but it still shows that when the chips were on the line and the pressure at its highest, the Dolphins didn't usually lose because of an error by Dan the Man. That's the thing I'll remember most about him. He was clutch. And he had a very large set of BALLS! (remember the 4th down TD passes to Duper against the Jets and Fryar against the Pats??) Unfortunately, if you weren't a Dolphins fan and didn't see most his games, you're far too likely to look at W's and L's and Superbowls and miss the bigger picture.
All of this. He was a winner and stole games we had no business taking. The '85 playoff game at home vs Cleveland really stood out to me. We were gashed all day w Bryner and Mack each going over 100 and the Curtis Dickey throwing in another 60 or so. As a result of their ball control, we were down 20-3 late in 3rd or even early 4th. We got 3 possessions. And all ended in long drive TDs w the final one at the very end to pull out an improbable 24-20 win. Kansas City in '91 down 16-3 and going on 2 final drives to win it 17-16 in the playoffs as well. He was so clutch. The 4th and 6 play against the Pats was like his play to win the Bowl game at Pitt. Just needed a FG, and went all jugular. Very few QBs had the balls to do that sort of thing.
 
I just watched the show and I came to realize that the Miami Dolphins are cursed. Not because of the stadium in Indian burial ground but because of Dan Marino. Pushing one of their own out of the door the way we did with Dan Marino, the football gods will take revenge. They send you Dave Wannstedt, Nick Saban, Cam
Cameron, Jeff Ireland, Tony Sparano, Mike Tannenbaum and Joe Philbin. And just when you think that we have turned the corner with Adam Gase just watch and see how angry the football gods still are. Only Dan Marino calm lift that course. Only him.
 
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