Abramson: Source says Dolphins like Cyrus Kouandjio

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  1. gafin

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    See more at: http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...si-to-inside-linebacker/#sthash.FVLMN8oS.dpuf

    I don't know about drafting another injured player, especially in the first round.
     
  2. Yessir

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    Cool. He'll be there at 50.
     
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    I think his injury concerns are maybe a little overblown. I think he has been fine in workouts and Dr. Andrews says his knee is fine.
     
  5. hoops

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    in 2012 he looked like a prototype nfl left tackle top 10 pick...this year he looked like he gained bad weight and developed some bad habits...i like the player...i like it more at right tackle or guard but i swear this was top 10 worthy pick left tackle talent a year ago

    fell off seriously in 2013...i took him off my board cause i heard i guess bad info that for medical he wouldn't play for anyone in 2014...might have to take a medical redshirt...that seems to be a bunch of mularkey i guess...and so yeah i'm interested...would like to see him lose some of that what i think is bad body weight

    pick #19 though ehhh a little rich...top 40 more my blood off what i have seen of late...some sluggish tape this last season...but i cant help but think that athlete i saw in 2012 is in there still somewhere
     
  6. So Be

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    Very doubtful. He is expected to go late 1st or early 2nd. I don't see any VG options at #50 on the OL.
     
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    my God what is with this team? why are we always going after injured players or injury prone players? SMFH. :crazy:cuz it's worked out so great for us in the past. The only instance is Grimes...
     
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    Didnt this guy fail his physical at the combine just a few months ago?
     
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    Perhaps they are looking at trading down with Cleveland or San Francisco at the end of the 1st round.

    Also possible the Dolphins are using Abramson to blow some smoke.
     
  10. hoops

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    very true...we are approaching that time i can tell ya that...the next 2 weeks before teams bunker down are gonna be hot air all over the place
     
  11. So Be

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    Do you believe that there will be a starting caliber RT available, for this year, at #50? I do not.
     
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    Even hickey wouldnt be this stupid
     
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    Abramson goes on to really detail plans for almost every round and what positions they are targeting. I am thinking this a smoke being fed to him, they want this out there.
     
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    Just about everything I read in that article made me cringe, except for Misi moving inside. Scary stuff.
     
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    Lol. So you're believing this report as though it's gospel? C'mon, no team tips off any interest like this to the media.
     
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    hard to say...deep draft at a lot of spots...
     
  17. gafin

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    About thirty minutes ago,Pat Kirwin on Movin' the Chains mock draft had the Dolphins trading down with the Chargers and taking Kouandjio.
     
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    Interesting...they usually use Armando as the gossip diva for smoke screens
     
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    ed stinson...a 287 lb de...i sure hope not...do like that kouanjo is down to 311...i bet those feet and movement skills are more apparent...wheeler at solb dear god shoot me now he's horrible clean now you want him to also be stout at the poa...good lord

    this has got to be bs...got to be...cooks isn't sniffing the 2nd round let alone 50 benjamin i think could slide but i don't want him in our offense...doesnt play smart enough or id coverage well enough

    i call bs on a lot of this...
     
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    if they did move misi inside then the solb i'd look for to replace him in the draft would be kyle van noy...then it makes a lot of sense to me...i don't think they are moving misi cause they wont be able to hide him in coverage on obvious passing downs with 2 lb sets so if teams go quick on us we couldnt sub him out but if they do move him then yeah kyle van noy...

    but not at #19...
     
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    This is my worst nightmare....
     
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    Dennis is right about Martin.
     
  23. gafin

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    It just about has to be a smoke screen. I mean what team in their right mind is going to let anything leak out about who they like?
     
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    C. J. Mosley is probably the consensus pick right now.....but that may not mean much.
     
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    They better not take yet another injured guy in the 1st round.
     
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    I would take Van Noy at 50. That dude is a straight up beast and will be so effective in 3rd down packages his rookie season.
     
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    Kouandijo fits a ZBS about as well as he fits into a smart car.
     
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    that's more my speed...where i think his value is...effective on 3rd down getting after the qb...but i'm not taking him to play wolb and not if misi is gonna eat up all the first 2 downs solb snaps...

    misi would have to move for me to take van noy...
     
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    Abramson spends to much time trying to come up with headlines that stir the pot for me to take him serious as a joinralist, it also seems highly unlikely anyone with information would talk to him.
     
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    remember earlier barry jackson said that they liked having misi on the field on first down cause he provides some poa strength...much needed in fact...that says solb stick and stay all day long to me...his best fit anyways...look for a more instinctual true lb to play the mike at least a 2 down guy if you can't get an every down one

    what i would do...stick with misi at strong and hide some of his weaknesses in coverage by giving him flats and drop zones...can do more of that at strong than mike
     
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    Seems like too much of a reach at 19, maybe trade down or try in the second. I like him at RT but i would have to hope his decline from a top 10 talent is only a 1 year thing and that he can pick it up if we do pick him.
     
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    if hickey really liked this guy as a possible selection for us at #19, i can guarantee you that information would have never leaked out of the building. this is probably a ploy to improve the odds of moses (or someone else hickey likes) still being there in round 2. just the fact that it is a leak about the O-line at all pretty much convinces me we are going in a different direction (LB, TE, or secondary) in round 1. just using the fact that everyone knows we need O-lineman to misdirect on the player and the position.
     
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    All these mock drafts saying Martin or Mosely, must be too close for comfort, so a smokescreen was needed.
     
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    This is exactly why abramson is full of ****. What kind of journalist would release a report based on his "sources". And immediately after tweet this?

    “@AbramsonPBP: I have reason to believe Dolphins liking Kouandjio & planning to move Misi to MLB isn't a smokescreen. But you never really know until draft”

    If you don't trust your sources, why are you reporting it? What Florida considers acceptable sports journalism is easily then lowest standard in the country.
     
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    Don't like him at 19
     
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    Guys..We're so ****ed this year. I think the Bucs have it.

    EDIT - this was my buddy who wrote this.. The bucs might have it though /sarcasm.
     
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    Of all the OL that could get drafted in rounds 1 and 2 he is the one I want the least. Injuries and weight concerns scare me with this player. No way Hickey takes him at 19 IMO.
     
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    player i see a lot of in kouanjo even after this season is keleche osemele for the ravens and a 2nd round pick...right tackle left guard who as a pro has been better kicked inside at guard...but may be moving back outside to right tackle with oher moving on depending on what the ravens do at tackle in the draft...

    similar players imo...
     
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    Get BOTH!!!!
     
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    Those are the two names I see the most on the mock drafts. Martin will probably be gone though IMO.
     
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    Smokescreen. He does not fit our scheme. Moving Misi to MLB is another smokescreen. Interest in WR another smokescreen.

    We are looking at Mosely or Shazier LB. Also interest in TE Ebron or Amaro. OT may happen if MArtin or Lewan drop. After that maybe a CB or a S but I doubt it.
     
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    Wow, you mean we might actually pursue a guy who was rated higher earlier than he is today? What a concept. Jeff Ireland did that perhaps once in his life and stumbled onto Reggie Bush. You can argue that Grimes is a second example.

    Throw away the fear. That's what I do when I bet college sports based on preseason ratings. A basketball team that was rated 50th among 330 starting the years gets off to a rocky start. Everyone sours on them. The power ratings plunge them down to 180 or 220. But that's when the value kicks in. The talent level really does equate to 50th and you take advantage once they naturally return to their rightful level, long before the power ratings catch up.

    No different with Cyrus. As hoops emphasized, he was an elite prospect less than a year ago. Preferred above Fluker virtually unanimous.

    Who cares if others have soured on him? As long as the injury concern is overblown this is the type of situation that is ideal. I posted a link in the draft forum a few hours ago on very early 2014 mock drafts immediately following the 2013 draft. Cyrus is near the top in all of those versions.

    Besides, while some Alabama kids may not fully pan out, their offensive line is so special in their dominant years that you have to give those guys the benefit of a doubt, when top notch athletic ability is part of the package. That Notre Dame defensive front seven was not only effective and tough but it had lots of highly rated guys. The Tide made them look pathetic.
     
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    I can't find that link that you posted in the draft forum, where is it?

    ps I found it.
     
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    If our new GM is leaking our draft plans already...can we just go ahead and fire him now? Anyone that believes any of this is gullible as hell.
     
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    I was thinking misinformation as well.

    I'd rather see the phins draft Su'a Filo @ 19 than Kouandjio 50. JuWaun James (UTn) at 50 would be better than Cyrus.
     
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    Every year names get thrown out there that I hate and stress me out through draft day. LOL.
     
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    Miami Dolphins Draft Strategy Leaked?

    • The Dolphins are set on drafting a right tackle in round 1. They rate Greg Robinson, Jake Matthews, and Taylor Lewan highly. Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reported on the Dolphins' interest in Lewan last week, so this is a second report saying that despite "character issues," the Dolphins are willing to draft Lewan at #19.
    • After those 3, the Dolphins' rankings of OTs gets interesting. Cyrus Kouandjio apparently has a first round grade from the Dolphins and is rated ahead of Zach Martin, whom the Dolphins see as a guard, and Morgan Moses, who played under new Dolphins offensive coordinator Bill Lazor when Lazor coached the University of Virginia football team a couple of years ago. If true, this means the Dolphins are not one of the teams whose physicians reportedly failed Kouandijo after his physical at the NFL combine. For what it's worth, renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews recently wrote a letterinsisting Kouandijo's knees were fine. The Dolphins reportedly have concerns about Moses' "work ethic," which Lazor would know a lot about after being Moses' head coach.
    • The Dolphins have no intention of drafting a starting linebacker, and they instead intend to move Koa Misi to middle linebacker, Dannell Ellerbe to weakside linebacker, and Phillip Wheeler to strongside linebacker. It's been reported before by the Miami Herald that the Dolphins have been pondering playing "musical chairs" at the linebacker spot with players switching positions (click here for an explanation for the different linebacker spots), so this counts as a second report backing that up. However, despite trying to signD'Qwell Jackson in free agency, the Dolphins are allegedly not interested in drafting a starting linebacker in the draft and would rather see if position switches improve production.
    • The Dolphins plan on drafting an offensive guard in round 2, unless a wide receiver like Kelvin Benjamin or Brandin Cooks fell to round 2. Otherwise, they want to address wide receiver and running back in the mid-to-later rounds. Armando Salguero of the Miami Heraldhas reported before that the Dolphins see running back as a mid-to-later round need, but this is the first report of the Dolphins wanting to address WR in rounds 2 or 3 of the draft.
    • Here's an exact quote that will make ct1361 dance on his desk at home: "If Miami gets a receiver as high as the second round, it could mean the end for receiver Brian Hartline after the 2014 season, the source said." Hartline's salary in 2014 is guaranteed, but he becomes a viable cap casualty after the 2014 season.
    • Brandon Gibson is reportedly safe as the Dolphins' WR3, likely because his current contract is so reasonable (paying him 1/2 as much as Hartline and 1/4 as much as Mike Wallace per year). However, if the Dolphins draft a later round WR, the rookie would compete withRishard Matthews because the Dolphins have had discussions about replacing Matthews and receiver Armon Binns.
    • The Dolphins intend to go offense-heavy early in the draft, but they're looking at cornerback and safety as later round needs. They apparently also like Alabama defensive end Ed Stinson who is projected as a mid-round draft pick.
    http://www.chatsports.com/miami-dolphins/a/Miami-Dolphins-Draft-Strategy-Leaked-2-9692572#
     
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    I read that article earlier and apparently Hartline did too.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Trade down if we want him, do not.. DO NOT take him at 19.
     

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