Berry officially declares for Draft

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  1. CO-Gator

    CO-Gator They all float down here.

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  2. Drubatuba

    Drubatuba Well-Known Member

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    No thank you.
     
  3. JT-forpresident

    JT-forpresident Believe In Miami

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    joking, right ? :unsure:
     
  4. ChadHenne

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    You are absolutely insane if you would pass on Berry.

    I mean, you would have to be mentally unstable to pass on Berry if every other team's GM gets hit by a bus the day of the draft and he falls to the Dolphins.

    I mean come on, SERIOUSLY?
     
  5. 3rdandinches

    3rdandinches Seasoned Veteran

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    I'm gonna go alittle Madden here, if Berry falls to KC I would look at trading with them. They need help at LB,S,RB and WR so here's my proposal.....

    R.Brown, C.Crowder, Y.Bell, T.Ginn (or Cam) - KC 1st and flip 3rd's

    Then we take Berry!

    Now of course I'm counting on signing a real good FA ILB and WR.

    Personally I think it's pretty good value KC gets a real good starting RB,S,LB and 2nd/3rd WR filling 4 positions for 1 draft pick.

    Like I said Madden but interesting.
     
  6. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Who D Best?

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    Ireland loves ball-hawking safety's. We could sure use a ball-hawking safety like him or Earl Thomas.
     
  7. hoops

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    lol... "no thank you" to a franchise caliber safety...the best in quite a while
     
  8. JCane

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    I would say no thank to sex before I said no thank you to Eric Berry.

    LOL @ No thank you. Eric Berry is sitting there for the Dolphins picking and you'd say no thank you to the best player in the draft. If Eric Berry falls further than the first pick in the draft, then 31 general managers need to be fired. The general manager with the first overall pick needs to be fired for obvious reasons and the other 30 should be fired for not trading up to get him. This is a guy you build a defense around for 10 years.
     
  9. Drubatuba

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    PhinsRDbest Who D Best?

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    All you have to do is look at Darren Sharper's addition to the Saint's defense making them tops in the league. Then look at Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders injuries which has made the Steeler's and Colt's defense pretty average. Then tell me you don't want an elite safety.
     
  11. Drubatuba

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    Its realy funny to see how defensive some of you get on here (no pun intended). To be honest I have no idea who Berry is. Thanks for proving my point.:lol:
     
  12. houtz

    houtz Pay the man!

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    I recommend staying out of the "draft forum" if you have no idea who Eric Berry is.
     
  13. Ozfin77

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    OK, here's another scenario for you...kinda following on from the Madden theme I guess...lol.

    Berry is still there at pick 6, Rolando McLain played a "lights out" game in the National Championship and funnily enough is still available aswell....

    KC are happy to do a deal with the whole "family connection" we have going there (lol).....

    So, who do you take.....Eric or Rolando?
     
  14. cowboy82nd

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    What makes anybody think that we could get anything or anybody for Crowder or Ginn?
     
  15. Ricky_Fan34

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    So we resign Ronnie... and then trade him? I guess you did say you were going to go "madden" on this one.
     
  16. hoops

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    yeah...really :hi5:
     
  17. hoops

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    eric berry without a 2nd thought...an ed reed type player in our secondary...a once a decade type talent...consider free safety fixed for a long long time

    and right after that i'd text gibril wilson with just this..."turn in your playbook"
     
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    Would be fine with staying where we are and possibly grabbing Earl Thomas. Last week he said he was going to stay at Texas but this week he said he "couldn't pass up 1st round money". A little (little bit) small but he more than makes up for it
     
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    Can anyone explain me why Berry's interception total has dropped this season so dramatically (and INT yards as well)? I know he's a stud - I'm not taking anything away from what he did... But shouldn't the addition of Monte Kiffin made him more of a defensive threat and ballhawk? He's the best player not named Suh but can someone explain why his INT are so low this year?
     
  20. JCane

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    Pretty simple explanation here. No one wants to throw in Eric Berry's direction. The interception total isn't the number you're looking for. That's a blinder. You gotta look at times thrown on. It's basically the same thing with Ed Reed. Reed's interception totals are down from past years. Seems like Ed is getting "worse." Fact is, no one wants to throw on Ed Reed.

    Can you blame them? These guys change games when the ball is in their hands.
     
  21. hoops

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    i think teams decided that after seeing berry 3 yards off his man in coverage when tebow began his throwing motion earlier this year against florida at the sidelines read tebow and burst on the ball for an easy int that they'll look elsewhere for who to go after in the passing game against tennessee...and damn if they shouldn't

    that and when i watched tennessee this year berry was playing around the los a ton in run support limiting his chances for ints in coverage
     
  22. VT Dolphan

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    I think Ndamukong Suh might take offense to that. Berry's great, but Suh is the best player in this draft hands down.
     
  23. WelcomeBack

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    See Nnamdi Asomugha
     
  24. ChambersWI

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    it's close. Suh is probably the most dominant DT college as seen in awhile. Yeah people say the same about Glenn Dorsey, and he was a stud, but Suh as a DT was top 2 in tackling for his team, and can play in any defense. With teams like Detroit, St. Louis, Seattle, Detroit,Tampa Bay and others needing DTs he's gonna go high.

    But Berry IMO is the best secondary prospect since Charles Woodson. Berry is a safety, but he can also play CB too, and his ball skills are great.
     
  25. JCane

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    He's the difference. Suh IS a great player. There's no doubt. Same for Berry. But Suh only fits in a certain defensive scheme and that's the 3 - 4. He's not made for a 4 - 3. All of these people who want Suh over Cody for our defense can't see that. Suh can work in a 4 - 3 but he's not AS dominate as he is in the 4 - 3. It's just like Ricky Williams isn't AS good in the Wildcat. It's not his style. Ricky is a big bruising physical running back. Now, Eric Berry...that kid changes the opponents offense if he steps on the field for any of the 32 teams...well, I take that back...he probably doesn't help the Raiders much. But that goes without saying.
     
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    my man suh can play in any system 3-4 4-3 doesn't matter...any system

    berry and suh are the bonafide franchise players in this draft
     
  27. BobDole

    BobDole Suck it Trebek

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    you had some 4-3/3-4 dyslexia going on there. i got the point though - and you're right. you don't put a guy like suh in a 3-4 to occupy blockers - most people realize that fact. just b/c he could be an end in a 3-4 doesn't mean that's the place to put him - especially with a top 5 pick. i'd be willing to guarantee he goes to a 4-3 team.
     
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    It's because Kiffin is having him play like an additional linebacker most of the time. Somewhat like Adrian Wilson for the Cardinals.
     
  29. PhinsRDbest

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    I think Suh would be a dominant nose. Remember Parcells and Co. like to play the 3-4 with a smaller Nose(Ferguson and Ratliff) and Suh is such a great prospect. This is what draftnik Simon Clancy AKA Boomer had to say in his blog post for the Sun Sentinel last year:
     
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    Yeap. Just caught that lol. Good job.
     
  31. CO-Gator

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    Even though it's highly unlikely, if we somehow ended up with Berry, I might cry. Guy reminds me of Sean Taylor.
     
  32. SRM

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    Sean Taylor was/is my favorite player of all time.. he gave me an eerie feeling of a dominant, fierce presence when I saw him play. Berry is the only other player to make me get that feeling again. He is going to be something special. Man, if we could get him.. that would be just amazing.

    Berry at FS, Clemons at SS, Smith and Davis at CB.
     
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    Suh in the 3-4 would be like Dorsey in the 3-4 from a few year ago . . . he can do it . . . but he best fits in the 4-3 as a penetrating DT . . . I remember a few years ago when Vonnie Holiday played DT in the 4-3 next to Tractor . . . . Vonnie had like 8 to 10 sacks . . . thats will be Suh.

    Honestly, Suh is the #1 prospect in this draft . . . I just have not seen a player as dominate as him on the line in a long long time . . . . but Berry is #2. If either one of these players are still available after the first 3 picks . . . Miami would be crazy not to get on the phone.
     

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