Dlockz said:
Green's performance is key to any arguement about Culpepper because thats who we replaced him with.
Really, Greens perormance is key DC being picked up by detroit only if Green is his agent. Just Green happened to be the one they choose to replace with but he was going to be replaced by someone either way.
Culpepper did nothing wrong off the field in Miami
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That is your opinion and your right to have. I respectfully disagreee with you on that. No real point in rehashing it all though.
he got a new staff that was basically going to cast him aside without any chance on his part, what should he have done or what would any other player do. Do you think Joey Porter or trent Green would have just shut up while they replace them without even letting them practice.
Like I said no real point in rehashing this, it's already been discussed till we are blue in the face. Allthough I do find it curious that you dont feel an overwhelming need to bring Jamarcus Russle's name into the conversation since DC was also replaced by him without any competition of any kind between them.
Im not a Culpepper fan anymore than any other player but he gets unfair criticism on this board.
Maybe you are not, I am not you nor do I know you outside of these rooms, but you sure do present an image as being a fan of his!
Hell when we aquire him he was not supposed to play until a few weeks into the season and we all know how that turned out.
Who made him play before he was ready?
Screw washed up Trent Green or broken down Culpepper neither player was good for us. To compare them off the field in Miami is moot since they did not sit around having Green wait while they made a decision
Unbielvable I actually found a part of your post that I can agree with you on.
but believe me if KC had waited longer on Green he would have been very similar to Daunte
you dont know that. You are stating your opinion like it is a fact. Things did not unfold for Green the same as they did for DC so there is nothing to compare there about thier personal behaviors.
and he was far from quiet while he was waiting either.
Yes its accurate that he made it known that he wanted out of KC and that is one area I will agree that they both were very vocal about thier desire to be traded. That goes on all the time in the NFL, more then a handfull of players just this season alone can be cited as examples. There is nothing unussaul about that at all.
Im sure people will definately blast Daunte for not having a good game, even though he playing for Detroit and has not even had a full week of practice because thats par for the course here.
Yes people will look to his performance in Detroit to critize him. He did nothing good for this team, showed the team and the fans no appriciation what so ever, he was paid very well to rehab here in Miami, and he returns to our house and snubs the organazation and all the fans pointing to his knee. (which I already know you dont view that as a snub but most of the rest of us, DO)
I bring up Trent Green because he was essentially the same Qb for us here but we bash Daunte for playing at the same level
You appear to me bring up Green because you dont like Trent Green, again only you know the answer to that one, but that is how you come off around here IMO. Again people do use DC's lack of productivity to critize him, but its more about his personal conduct then his playing. Look if he would of handled himself differently Saban would of been viewed as the culprit for making a bad call on him and the status of his health. He was the one out in the media playing it up like a big shot ready to go preseason. Then he stunk the joint up and made every excuse he could to justify it. He took no personal responibility and never appologized or at least shown a tiny bit of humility to the community. Instead he choose go out guns blazing. Writing letters to the media to publish, getting the nflpa involved, refusing to make contractual concessions to help facilutate miami to get some a trade and some value back on thier investment. Now I understand that all that is ok with you but it does not sit well with a great number of people around here.
Yes its true Trent Green did not live up to his billing here either, the difference however is that he left here gracefully and dignified. That is why he is treated with respect by this community and DC is not. You get what you give.
Now I cant wait to hear your spin on it, because you always do have some sort of creative spin to put on this situation. I do give you credit for being a creative guy. So please tell me how wrong I am about my assment of the difference between Green and DC and why Green's tenure here is relevant to DC's and why DC's tenure at Oakland isnt relivant to Jamarcus Russel's
until Daunte in a phins uni I havent seen anyone play so horribly at QB in the NFL. Its so sad that I saw an equally if not amazingly worse, performance just one season later from John Beck. Easily the two worst QBs I have ever seen play football in the NFL. **** Daunte.