Dolphins, Chargers make offers to Bryant McKinnie

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  1. Nublar7

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    I'm wondering if there is something wrong with Eric Winston? I doubt it's because Martin cannot play LT that we are not looking at other RT..
     
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    Very interesting to see how this one plays out...
     
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    Hopefully he signs along with another veteran OT. We need plenty of depth at this spot.

    Clabo, Martin, McKinnie, and Garner would be nice.
     
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    he'll go to the chargers
     
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    I'm not sold on us using him as a guaranteed starter, more of depth and possibly back-up in case Martin doesn't do well at LT. I assume once we figure out the LT spot we'll finalize a deal with Winston at RT within a few days.
     
  7. The Omen

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    Well he does make his home here and I believe he's a fan of his home team (I think)... He also said he hated the new logo...

    I guess it all boils down to how much we/they offered. If it's close, I think we have the edge.
     
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    he'll go to whom ever offered more money.
     
  9. TruePoizon

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    i hope he goes to the Chargers. No need for an LT.
    Id rather Clabo or Winston
     
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    California has State income tax, right?
     
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    The idea of getting two of these guys would be sweet.
     
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    Just moved here in January, from what I can tell we have every kind of tax ever invented :boohoo:
     
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    OHHH yes it does! Also we have the highest gas prices... (not that gas prices will make or break his decession)... I'm no CPA, but doesn't it all depend on what state you file your taxes in (where you live) not where you draw your paycheck?
     
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    mckinnie and south beach is a recipe for disaster
     
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    Yes. And it actually increased. I live in Los Angeles.
     
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    CalDolFan10x14 Your QB for the next 10 years. Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Well at least you pick a good city. :lol:
     
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    O ya cali is expensive to live here.
     
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    I've been saying this for a while. We don't need 1 guy. We need 2.

    We need to find a starter at LT or RT AND we need another starter caliber guy to backup either T position. Martin gives us the "swing" option in the equation. And I think McKinney has more value at this point because he can swing too.

    I think we freed up enough potential cap with our draft of CBs and K that we can afford 2 mid level starter contracts: Winston AND McKinney. I rather spend the same amount of Albert money on 2 guys instead of 1.
     
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    The Dolphins definitely have more money to spend, but they seem very careful spending on tackles these days
     
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    Mckinnie is the only LT on the market that will consistently protect our QB. If Martin hasn't gotten stronger this offseason, Mckinnie can be a good stop gap. Martin was statistically terrible on both sides last year, and I would think that we would be better off with a solid plan B.
     
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    This cannot be a vote of confidence for Martin.
     
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    does anyone honestly think he will be able to be a starter at LT all season.. last season he was benched until an injury vaulted him into the starting lineup in the playoffs. He did play good in the playoffs, but has a habit being overweight and being kinda lazy. Id take him if it wasnt the plan for him to start but for extra insurance.
     
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    All I know is that if this team thought Martin could do the deed at LT, trying to sign Long, trade for Albert and giving an offer to Bryant Mckinnie are not indicators of their confidence.
     
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    yup :-(
     
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    i still say its a smokescreen to get Martin to push himself. If we do sign McKinnie, i hope its for 1 years and minimum pay as a backup.
     
  26. circumstances

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    i disagree. even if they were sure martin was the answer at LT, they would still be looking to sign a veteran that could still (capably) start in case he got injured.
     
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    I expect Ireland to make a comment that we have total confidence in Jonathan Martin taking his game to the next level as a starting offensive tackle in the NFL.
     
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    Hey, I think the "flip" OT is one of the most underrated positions in terms of depth. Nobody talks about it. However, I do not get the impression these tryouts are for a flip OT.
     
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    10.3% if im not mistaken. That's just nuts. With that said I hope he chooses anyone but us. Don't like reports of lazy fat guys. We have one on the OL now, don't need more. We need more workaholics like Pouncey. Pick a RT, move Martin LT and call it a day.
     
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    Our ONE need on the team is a "No Need?" Lol:ponder:
     
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    You pay where you earn it
     
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    BIG income tax on top earners.

    Also, Miami has far more cap than SD.
     
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    Man, they have some crazy taxes. Once worked with a particular telecom provider in a back office support group. There were always complaints from California residents, mostly businesses, regarding the fees & taxes that they paid. I would often have to direct them to the State of California's sites to show them it was not us...
     
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    Doesn't he live in Miami?
     
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    Baltimore didn't win the SB because their left tackle was horrible and giving up sacks and hurries. They won, in part, because he was getting the job done against the best in football when it really mattered. I think he'd be a great stop-gap until our youth develops or we're able to draft a better prospect in 2014.
     
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    Eric Winston is a 100% RT asking for LT money.

    Bryan McKinnie is a LT asking for LT money.

    Makes more sense
     
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    If he was at even a reasonable weight when he stopped by the facility, McKinnie would be my first choice. The way the FO is behaving, I don't have confidence in Martin at LT. There has been no rush to sign Winston by anyone either, which is also telling. And I do not want them them go to camp empty handed at tackle the way they did last year with the receiving corps.
     
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    give me mckniney..I do not want a tweener...someone who hasn't played lt much and move him there or vice versa. why get Winston to play lt?
     
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    I read on PFT that McKinnie and the Chargers are in contract negotiations.
     
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    Thanks! Lving is Cali is expensive as hell, I've been to South Beach once, love it there. The only thing Cali has over South Beach is the weather (no crazy storms or humity)... I remember leaving south beach with like 40+ bug bites. But the women believe it or not have the slight edge over there in Southern Cali
     

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