FinfanInBuffalo said:
This is where you are confused. I didn't suggest that Buffalo should have taken Leinart at 8. They should have taken one of the offers and traded out of that spot and gotten more value for their pick.
Bills fans are trying justify the picks of Whitner and McCargo by claiming that they would have been gone later. You have no way of knowing that. When the Fins gave up a 4th round pick to make sure they got Vernon Carey, you laughed. The argument was that they were afraid that someone else was going to trade with the Vikings so they made sure they got the player they wanted. Carey was rated as the third best player at a position of need. You have no problem with the Bills giving up a third round pick to accomplish the same thing.
I never you said that you stated we should've taken Lienert, I was simply pointing out value. Value means squat if they are not the players you want.
Try checking out bZ and what went on during the draft. Here's part of it.
"A variety of experts have questioned the Bills moving into round one for McCargo, but the fact is that the New York Giants were prepared to take him with the 32nd overall pick. Their GM, Ernie Accorsi, made it evident they needed a defensive tackle, but Bills GM Marv Levy jumped in front of him with a somewhat inexpensive trade. Thus, anyone calling this pick a reach by the Bills is sorely mistaken. It may have seemed like a reach initially, but now that the facts have come out, it's clear that Levy made the right move. Levy had his sights set on McCargo, and he got him. There's certainly nothing wrong with that."
Here's more
"According to a "source", the Buffalo Bills actually as late as Friday were planning on taking Broderik Bunkley with the 8th pick in the draft in round one.
This changed on Friday evening when Levy got wind that the Pittsburgh Steelers had a trade in place with the New York Giants to move up to Number 25 in the draft. The deal was contigent that one of two WR's were still on the board...The Steelers were going to take either Santonio Holmes or Sinorice Moss (surprisingly Chad Jackson wasn't on that list, maybe teams werent so hot for him after all).
Marv, Modrak and whomever went through their own mock and took a chance (which obviously paid off in their minds) that either Holmes or Moss would still be on the board at 25. When they came to that conclusion they switched their draft plans.
Whether you want to believe it or not (and I know a few dont, oh well), Marv also knew that the Giants were taking McCargo and figured that nobody would take him in the first round. This has ALL but been confirmed in several New York papers that the Giants had McCargo tabbed.
So instead of Bunkley and a reach for a starter at safety, the Bills brass decided that Whitner was a sure thing at safety and took him at 8, knowing that they could also get McCargo with the Giants moving down.
I also heard from a draft person very much in the know that the Bears were not the first team that the Bills called about moving up. They also contacted Tampa Bay (23) and Cincinnati (24) about taking over their spot.
IN a way, you can thank Sam Adams signing with the Bengals as the reason they got to take McCargo at 26 (unless of course you hate McCargo and think its a bad pick)."
There's more even before the Whitner pick but I'll leave it up to you to find them. :wink:
There are simlilar reports pointing to what I posted, Whether you believe it or not is up to you.
I am not trying to defend our draft and have stated here on FH that C is a fair grade that could eventually become an A+ or an F depending how they turn out on gameday which is where the valuew becomes evident.
