phinfan40353
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I think there is a misconception that any speed DE can learn how to be an effective tackler. And vice versa, than any run stuffing DE can acquire speed rushing skills.
These are two distinctive disciplines. I think it is foolsih to believe Harris will morph into a run stuffing DE. Dismissing this task as "something to learn" is short sighted. I guess that would imply Wake still has some learning to do.
This is why Olivier Vernon got paid. He had the sack numbers and was very underrated and unappreciated by Phin fans for his run support and ability to set the edge.
And this is why Branch also got paid. Branch is a poor man's Vernon.
Speed DEs are like CBs that can't tackle: never have and never will.
This is the fundamental reason Harris is getting trashed on the board. A 1st round pick should be a more complete player. Harris gets pushed around and tends to not pursue. People didn't make those types of remarks about players like Lamp.
What I'm hearing is a contradiction of criticisms. People have been crucified for need based drafting wishes in the past or Gms who reached based on need. BPA has been preached over and over.
Yet, what I'm hearing on the board from those defending Harris is ironically need based thinking. And I think the same could be said for the defense of McMillian.
Lamp was one of the BPAs available. I don't think anyone would have had to defend that pick. Lamp would have fit right into the logic of Tunsil. A gifted LG or RG that immediately starts. Couple him with Asiata and most of the Harris bashers would have crowned this draft one of our best ever.
Personally, i think the Harris supporters are having to do too much justification and that alone is a sign of a questionable pick.
Remember how the board unified after the Tunsil pick? That is how a great pick is received by fans. The same as they have Asiata.
People are defending Harris as another Wake. Please...Wake is a rare player, man and specimen. Harris would be fortunate to have half of Wake's career. Stop reaching. He is an incomplete DE tasked with the same challenges faced by 100% of the speed rushers in the NFL. How many have achieved this goal?
A 1st round pick should not be a project.
And I've also seen criticisms of picking OL early when it is a deep defensive draft. That is WHEN you grab positions of shallow talent pools; EARLY. You have the entire draft to grab deep positions.
Some of these comments.....Wow.
These are two distinctive disciplines. I think it is foolsih to believe Harris will morph into a run stuffing DE. Dismissing this task as "something to learn" is short sighted. I guess that would imply Wake still has some learning to do.
This is why Olivier Vernon got paid. He had the sack numbers and was very underrated and unappreciated by Phin fans for his run support and ability to set the edge.
And this is why Branch also got paid. Branch is a poor man's Vernon.
Speed DEs are like CBs that can't tackle: never have and never will.
This is the fundamental reason Harris is getting trashed on the board. A 1st round pick should be a more complete player. Harris gets pushed around and tends to not pursue. People didn't make those types of remarks about players like Lamp.
What I'm hearing is a contradiction of criticisms. People have been crucified for need based drafting wishes in the past or Gms who reached based on need. BPA has been preached over and over.
Yet, what I'm hearing on the board from those defending Harris is ironically need based thinking. And I think the same could be said for the defense of McMillian.
Lamp was one of the BPAs available. I don't think anyone would have had to defend that pick. Lamp would have fit right into the logic of Tunsil. A gifted LG or RG that immediately starts. Couple him with Asiata and most of the Harris bashers would have crowned this draft one of our best ever.
Personally, i think the Harris supporters are having to do too much justification and that alone is a sign of a questionable pick.
Remember how the board unified after the Tunsil pick? That is how a great pick is received by fans. The same as they have Asiata.
People are defending Harris as another Wake. Please...Wake is a rare player, man and specimen. Harris would be fortunate to have half of Wake's career. Stop reaching. He is an incomplete DE tasked with the same challenges faced by 100% of the speed rushers in the NFL. How many have achieved this goal?
A 1st round pick should not be a project.
And I've also seen criticisms of picking OL early when it is a deep defensive draft. That is WHEN you grab positions of shallow talent pools; EARLY. You have the entire draft to grab deep positions.
Some of these comments.....Wow.
