Hartline agrees to terms with Dolphins

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  1. DzakkH13

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    UPDATE: Contracts details - Signing bonus is $7 Million and Hartline's Cap hit in 2013 is $2.1 million.


     
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  2. MrEd

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    Woot! Two down on the agenda. Next is Clemons and then bring us Wallace, Cook, and Freeney... go Ireland, go Ireland, it's ya birthday, it's ya birthday go Ireland. ..:chuckle:
     
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    It’s a five-year, $30.775 million contract, with $12.5 million in fully-guaranteed money.

    :err:
     
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    We don't know the details of the contract but it certainly looks like it's structured well on our favor.
     
  5. MrEd

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    Not bad. So he kept it closer to the $6mil instead of the $6.5mil. Plus I bet you he has a first couple years similar to the way they structured Bowe's contract where it's a minimum salary only counting $4mil against the cap the first couple of years. So wouldn't be surprised if Hartline's cap hit this year is a mere $2mil against the cap
     
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    Is that you, Brian Hartline?
     
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    good deal
     
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    Good signing! Welcome back Brian Hartline
     
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    Good deal for everyone
     
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    I can handle this....Dude made his bones last year....Just another piece of the puzzle.....
     
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    6 million a year for 1 TD production?

    Mike Wallace better be looking for 48 million a year then...
     
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    Glad you're back Brian. Well deserved.
     
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    sounds like a plan!
     
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    It is pathetic. Ireland is going to need some ointment cause Rosenhaus just bent him over and didn't even use lube.
     
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    Can not wait to see you eat crow. You really dislike Hartline. Perhaps as a kid he stole your ball then you went home:woot:
     
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    Good deal. Brian hartline needed to come back to make sure Ryan Tannehills favorite target stayed in miami
     
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    Don't kill the messenger, Vertical Limit haha.
     
  19. sharp

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    Hartline would have gotten this money elsewhere with a weak WR FA group.

    Tannehill already has chemistry with him. I expect the TD production to grow as the offense will and the QB. Can't believe he even got 1k yards with that offense out there. A rookie QB with davone bess lining up outside. A mediocre line and a ridiculously unpredictable running game. Not to mention the absolute trash WRs behind bess and hartline, oh and the lack of seam busting TE. Also the fact he set the Miami record for receiving yardage in a game with this group. He's young, he has been getting better. No reason to let him walk.
     
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    I bet Hartline still couldn't find the endzone :lol:
     
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    Better see more than 1 TD per season in the coming years. I know that much.
     
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    I sincerely hope this means that they will not pursue Wallace.
     
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    Hartline could have gotten more from a team like Cleveland or Oakland. Glad he's staying home. With the right QB and a streaker across from him, he should thrive in this offense.
     
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    Fantastic! Everything so far is going according to plan...yes!

    Hey DzakkH13, that girl with the red lingerie on your sig is EXTREMELY hot.
     
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    I still hope we draft Swoope.
     
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    Rotoworld just loves hatin' on the Fins. :rolleyes2:
     
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    I honestly just don't see where he would fit.
     
  28. MrEd

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    Hartline could easily had 5 TDs last year if not for a couple overthrown and a couple more under thrown balls too. Hartline is an easy 5 TD guy next to Wallace and Cook. ;)
     
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    Glad it's under 7/yr. Hartline was in the right place at the right time coming off a productive season with our young QB: we're absolutely desperate for WRs, there are very few proven WRs in FA, and the draft doesn't have a top-tier wideout. I'm down with this.
     
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    Eh...not a fan of giving him 6M a year. Hes a limited player. Im sure he will contribute though, which is more than can be said for a lot of our big money deals.
     
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    Well now that he got his contract out of the way he can start working on scoring TD's this coming season.
     
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    Hartline only got 12m guaranteed. I'm happy we kept him.
     
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    He's taller, faster, and can go higher than Davone Bess. He'd give you great production for a 4th rounder or even a 3rd rounder. Have him at 4th receiver for a few years and then have him in line to replace Bess.

    I like Bess a lot, and I love that he really succeeds with his limitations, but Bess isn't that fast, and isn't that good at YAC. Swope is someone who can do both of those things and would be a great addition.
     
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    Bess is a UFA in 2014, why not draft his replacement now and ease him into the role?
     
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    Every receiver could have 5 TD's if every throw was on target :).

    Not a fan of paying him this much, but I will definitely be rooting for him to step his TD production up. It wouldn't have hurt me one bit to see him walk, but it also doesn't hurt me to see him back. But if he doesn't start scoring TD's that extension is going to be a problem.
     
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    But bess is also a more experienced vet with much better hands and route running which is something highly valued. No one should expect a raw rookie like swope to put up elite numbers on his rookie season, or put us over top or more valued piece of offense over tthe current Bess. Either way we should trade bess is that's the case but he has been our main outlet for third downs and he's done a good job seeing the little talent we had on offense.
     
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    Kid is all heart!!!!!
     
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    I actually am of the same school of thought. I voted that I did "not" want him back in that poll thread on Hartline, but I'm not mad and am actually ok and even excited we have him back. Especially as a "smart" route runner with sneaky speed on the opposite side of Wallace. And I'm sure he'll be stronger and a bit quicker with a full offseason instead of the skin and bones coming from an appendectomy.
     
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    I hope with more talent around him he finds more ways to get in the end zone. Having Beas as the other boundary receiver is also a killer. Bess has a hard time finding the end zone as well. Wallace and at least one drafted receiver and maybe we have something
     
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    Guys..it's only 12 million guarantee money...that's the key number, not the 30 million...
     
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    Swope is also a very good route runner. And I can't say how good his hands will be at the pro level, but they were great at the college level. I had said in my last post that we could have him at the no.4 and wait until Bess's contract expires and put him in the role then, giving him a year to get used to the offense. He's just a plain more dynamic slot receiver than Bess, and if you have the chance to improve the position especially with a 3rd or 4th round pick you do it.
     
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    I think he's slightly overpaid but you guys need to remember, he had no off season with tannehill and was in bed from surgery for a large part of the off season, couldn't workout couldn't do anything. I fully expect the TDs to increase this season, especially if we get Wallace, which will allow hartline to go against #2s the way he should be.

    I'm not a huge fan of the deal, but I certainly understand it.
     
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    Exactly, Miike. I'm looking at that small guaranteed amount and the 5yr length of contract and you can easily notice that it "is" basically a $4mil per year contract everyone was demanding for as what makes it $6mil per year is likely big salary numbers in the final years of the contract. I think Ireland did well here.
     
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    If we overpay Hartline and fail to upgrade over Clemmons, this offseason is off to a bad start.
     
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    That would be a good argument, but he's had 6 TD's in 4 freaking years. It's not a fluke that he couldn't find the endzone in 1 year. We even had Marshall getting double teamed the 2 years he was here, and Hartline still couldn't score more than 2 times.
     
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    He is a decent route runner but they take forever to develop and by no means does he deserve the trait of "great hands" because he wouldn't be close to those who truly have great hands in the NFL. He body catches a lot (could be something to do with his small hands) and his gauntlet was very unimpressive and dropped ball at his body. He has made a lot of great catches but he has a bad habit of catching with his body. I think he will be pretty good after a few season but their is a reason why you hardly see him in even 2nd round projections. He isn't perfect or show anything ground breaking.
     
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    I agree with everything you said, except I can't blame any offensive player for not producing with henne running the show. Even Marshall had very limited TDs with henne tossing.
     
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    overpaid, but sometimes you have to i guess
     
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    I believe that this re-sign is a direct result of Tannehill wanting him back.

    It is very likely that Ryan either asked (or was asked) his opinion of resigning Hartline and this signing makes a case that Ryan wanted Hartline back. In my opinion it is a good resign because it would have been a bad Idea going into next year missing the one player that Tannehill really seemed to connect with. Young Quarterbacks need familiarity and time to develop a connection and clearly Hartline and RT had a connection going.
     
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    Look at guys like breaston, meachem, burleson, during there free agency years, they all got similar $ on new teams.

    If we want to keep hartline it was always going to cost this much because another team def would offered a contract close to it.

    Besides you guys saw how hard it is for players to learn our offense, more than half the wrs we brought in, egnew, clay, even moore and garrard all had problems, hartline wasnt even here in training camp and he picked it up. we need continuity, and he's young, tanny has a target he knows that will be here for the foreseeable future.

    Believe me, I'm not a huge hartline fan, but the contract makes more sense when you really step back amd look at it.
     

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