Huge rumor to follow....

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  1. uk_dolfan

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    1. No way in hell will Bill Belichick ever coach the Miami Dolphins - no matter what Colin Cowherd spews out.

    2. He wouldn't be classless enough to go after a job that already has a coach - especially when the job he has always wanted; the Giants is open.

    3. He probably doesn't even leave NE

    4. Our roster stinks, even if you think this is a possibility why would a 65 year old with only a few shots left come here?
     
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    I think Belichick would consider the Miami job to get back at Kraft and Brady, if all of this new reporting is true. Belichick strikes me as an incredibly spiteful, egotistical man. Probably a big part of what makes him a great coach.

    Also, Bill Belichick has too much class to go after a job that already has a coach? Are you ****ing kidding me, UK? Man, I love you, but are you serious? We're talking about a guy who is running around town carrying on an open affair with a married woman like he has too much class to steal another man's job?

    Guy's a cheating piece of **** in both his personal and professional lives. Great coach, but a cheating piece of ****. Class doesn't even enter the picture.
     
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    Btw also heard speculation that he would retire as a head coach and stick to front office duties if he left.
     
  4. Dolphins81

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    Lmao! BB is a cheating POS but it would be a great move on our part. It would be demoralizing to the Patriots! He would bring all of their secrets and then we would dominate them!
     
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    A cheat? Yea. Don't know much about his lovelife. But I suspect he has a degree of respect for his profession.

    Maybe im wrong about that. But I still think if he was ever going to leave NE, it would be for the Giants
     
  6. J. David Wannyheimer

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    It's been pretty reliably reported that he's having a pretty open affair with a married woman. I strongly agree with you that if he moves this season, it will be to the Giants, but I strongly disagree with you about his 'respect' and class. The guy's all about winning, not about being ethical or right. While I guess I respect him in some sense for that, I won't ever say he's a classy or good person.

    Truly incredible football coach, though. I won't ever deny that, even as I call him a piece of **** human being and cheater.
     
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    It depends on how bad BB wants to stick it to Kraft. Coaching a hated rival and turning the tide against NE twice a year would be mucho gratifio.
     
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    That’s not the question or answer. Do you think he could win a super bowl with this version of jay cutler?

    You gonna answer that? No doubt he’s a hell of a coach can he walk on water and make that happen?
     
  9. J. David Wannyheimer

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    The Impala already rounded the corner, dude.
     
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    It’s not going to happen, but what the hell I’ll add to it. I’d fire Grier & make BB the GM/EVP of Football Operations. Then he’d finally can Tannenbaum. Give him control, f it. Again, not going to happen, but the thought of it makes me really warm and fuzzy inside.
     
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    I’m gonna agree with others if he leaves it will be the giants.

    But the Miami thing isnt happening.

    But hey go beli and take freaking gronk with you. I’ve had enough of that monster
     
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    What is happening? I've entered bizarro world!
     
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    I’d say this is correct by the way. He went to the playoffs his first year he lost his qb his entire 2nd year he would get 2018 and 2019 before miami did anything with a coach.

    And he’d deserve it. I’d tell you tanny stays healthy there won’t be any more 6 and 10s but the vultures would circle
     
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    All of the reports that I have read, the Gaints seems like the spot for him. Regardless, it will be the end of the Patriots.
     
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    This kind of stuff usually doesn’t stay off the football field. So if there is that kind of riff it should catch up with you in the postseason. In the case of the pats well...

    One can only hope ha ha
     
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    2020 is the year I’d predict if gase was let go. Reason tanny gets 2018 if that fails due to medical 2019 gase gets to draft his qb 2019 becomes a mulligan 2020 they’d want results

    That’s how I see it.

    But front office folks would be on shorter leash. Tannenbaum can only dodge questions so long. Grier would be first to go because tbaum would scapegoat


    That dude takes zero responsibility for anything in pressers
     
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    I'm not convinced BB is any good w/o Brady. He didn't do squat prior to Brady.
     
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    Even my cat finds that hilarious
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    I doubt there's much truth to these stories. Of course there's friction between the coach and his players sometimes, but these guys are all about legacy and they won't let some trivial spat ruin their legacy. Belichick and Brady are no longer playing football for money...they play for legacy and reputation. Thats all there is left to play for in sports or in business when you've already made it. This story is just stupid and I'd be shocked if either played/coached for another team.
     
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    I don’t know if he’s ever gonna reach beli territory but if we fire him we gonna look like idiots. That dude knows offense.

    It would be a massive mistake
     
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    Didn't Marino have a love child? Do you view him as a POS human being?
     
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    Mental notes taken....a lot of them.
     
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    People who cheat on their spouses -- men and women -- are scumbags.
     
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    Would be a dickmove for him to snake the Giants job from McDaniels since he was interviewing for it, but it is Belicheck lol
     
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    What decade are we talking about? That GM school of management that produced the vehicles of the late 70s and 80s. I guess I see similarities to
    the fins ....
     
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    He know bubble screens, Cutler and JT. Offense, not so much.
     
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    That’s an excellent read. A part of me wonders if it’s brought on by garrops 5 games in San Fran results. I sure would like to see the tape of those 5 games

    It doesn’t come across as far fetched. But the X factor for this postseason is gronk and when he’s healthy I don’t know what you are suppose to do with him.
     
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    What’s an rpo?
     
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    Yeah that was when I realized that my childhood hero Marino wasn’t what i thought he was.

    Larry bird was also a childhood hero of mine and I believe he did that also

    It was a gut check. That’s one cross I don’t have to carry
     
  31. J. David Wannyheimer

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    We're talking about the GM of the 1940s, which was the most successful corporation in the world. The "GM Method" was taught in business schools (and specifically at Michigan business school) at the time that Ross was a student there. If you're really interested I guess I could talk about it some more again, but the GM method promotes the idea of splintering your company into different groups or departments for a variety of reasons. One of the key reasons for that sort of compartmentalization of everything into its own little world is that it's also a strategy for resolving personality conflicts and retaining quality human resources when people have essentially failed in one job, but still have value in another.

    Remember the whole blowup between Jeff Ireland and Joe Philbin? That's why Steve Ross wanted to move Jeff Ireland to a new job title inside the Dolphins. Because that's how he was trained in business; you have a guy who is really good at some aspects of his job, but overall his performance isn't great and he's feuding with someone he has to deal with every day. How do you resolve this? Jack Welch says "Fire his ***." GM School says "Give him a new job title, in a different office, where he interacts with different people."
     
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    Thanks, I wasn't familiar with your previous posts or thinking back that far in GM's history. That / Ross' Approach matches up quite well with the peter principle.
     
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    run/pass option
     
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    Yep. And Ross has lived up to that to the tune of a BILLION or so in personal wealth. I hope to be 1/2 the failure he is one day
     
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    If Tannehill can't play next season i think he would get canned for not having a back up plan. That would be 3 seasons lost because of his knee.
     
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    Wouldn't that be the perfect reason to come here? To stick it to your old team who you're reportedly feeling burned by? Don't get me wrong though I think there's about a 0.1% chance of that actually happening
     
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    What a wonderful contribution to the conversation, bravo.
     
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    Like I said I personally believe there's about a 0.1% chance of this happening. However, if it did, as much as I've hated the guy for 15 years, I'd give him basically full control of this team. Coach, GM, whatever he wanted to be.
     
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    I don't really know what you mean when you say it matches up well with the Peter Principle. All I'm really saying here is that one of the most enduring things those old guys were taught is that people are valuable parts of your company. This was the old school that said the company should actually value its employees in return for their loyalty. The "Pension and a Gold Watch" type of deal.

    That's all I'm getting at here. The team's owner is from that very old generation of businessmen who were taught not to fire guys just because they think maybe they can find a better fit out there. Whether or not you like that or think it's a good way to run a football team (we've certainly had less than great results), that's just kind of where he's from. It just doesn't fit with that mentality to go and fire Adam Gase right now.

    Personally, I miss those old guys. Boomers tend to subscribe to the Jack Welch / QPR management theory, which more often than not results in disaster. Yeah, we're going to fire the bottom 10% every quarter. There's no way people with families to feed are going to cut insane corners or falsify anything in order to survive the looming specter of unemployment every three months.

    So even as the Dolphins have struggled under Ross, I do appreciate that we've got one of those old school guys -- old school in really the best, most humane sense -- at the top of the Dolphins right now. I just hope his man Gase can get the results, too.
     
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    I liked the article but it was mostly back end gossip in an organization that has been impeccable where it matters most, on the field.

    Beli at the very least has another year or two in NE and frankly I’m not so certain he coaches after he leaves. Even so do I really want the back-side of a career hungover with an absolutely unmatchable, epic run of success? Sounds like imminent disappointment to the winner of that sweepstakes. Hard to say no to a guy with his resume but it feels like he’d just be moonlighting his way into retirement with whichever team he lands with.

    We need to find our own Beli, or at the very least a comparable coach who can ascend into greatness with our franchise. I’m not losing hope that Gase is our guy, and I think anyone that is has drastically underestimated both what he’s done and how difficult it is to win in the NFL with anything less than elite QB play or elite defense.
     

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