Joe Philbin

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  1. Hayden Fox

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    Two things regarding Philbin...one, he IS going to be at the game tomorrow. What a perfect place to be for him at least for a little bit. I wish him luck.

    Secondly, I cannot believe nobody brought this up today, but both Jay Glazer and Charlie Casserly said the Fins "loved" their interview with him.

    Maybe we are passing him off too quickly because of the awful tragedy. I am sure he has not weighed in whether he wants to move from his home in these trying times. However, perhaps waiting a bit is not a bad thing if his interview and prospects are that good.
     
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    Ok.......
     
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    I was not the biggest Philbin guy early on. Did not love him, but was not against him. Kind of ambivalent.

    However, since this tragedy in his family, how the Packers rallied around him and Philbin showing to the game Sunday, I am starting to like the guy.
     
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    im not a big philbin guy (but i like him a lot more than mccoy lol) but i wouldnt be against it.. the difference between PC jr and philbin for me is that philbins specialty is O-line and doesnt call plays.
     
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    remember our front office does like PC jr too because we have tried twice to get him as OC
     
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    i think the fins have "loved" every person they interviewed so far. i mean cmon what are they going to say, " interviewee was clueless, we will in no way make an offer". its just pc talk.
     
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    i think its gonna come down to what has the best chance to put fans in the stands. And what does the more than installing a high powered offense and that would lead me to believe PC jr and philbin has a leg up on the others because there offensive schemes would bring excitement to our offense and fans
     
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    i agree, they arent gonna go out and say that the interview was a bad one out of respect to the interviewee
     
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    If we get Philbin AND Flynn then I'll get excited.
     
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    plus i dont think it bodes well for any person interviewed pre fisher. we are scheduling interviews not going back to philbin,toub,etc. none of those guys are working out terms with the fins like fisher supposedly was. i believe our next coach hasnt been interviewed yet.
     
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    I think it is going to come down to who JEFF IRELAND likes.
     
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    if we hire mccoy , fin nation will riot in the streets.
     
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    And somehow land Blackmon and Fleener in the draft. That could be nasty.
     
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    i see absolutely NO WAY he does all this under these circumstances.

    he will need to be with his family, his wife. that first year is going to be horrible for the family and rooting them up and hanging a big load of stress on philbin with being a first time h/c, new team, new town, moving, etc on top of this tragedy...... i just dont see it.

    and really, how much can he really be into a game after this. that first year with a team as h/c is CRUCIAL, and i dont see him having the heart and soul in it he needs. and understandably.

    they will probably make a play for him if this rumour is true, but honestly, i hope he turns it down. his family needs him this year and we need someone who can come in here guns blazing and enthusiastic.
     
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    Tony Dungy coached under similar circumstances. We are all different though. I would not blame him either way.
     
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    I'm not sold on Philbin. Much like Pete Carmichael Jr., he is only getting mentioned because of the perception that he would bring Green Bay's high powered offense with him. Let's forget about the fact that Green Bay and New Orleans are high powered because of Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees respectively, not because of Joe Philbin and Pete Carmichael Jr.

    With Joe Philbin, I see a soft spoken guy with questionable ability to command a room full of men and also questionable ability to motivate. Right now, he is making his name off of Aaron Rodgers, and he really had no part in Aaron's development, and he has had limited input in the offensive system outside of maintaining the blocking schemes that Jeff Jagodzinski installed when he initiated the base offense.
     
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    I like Philbin. It would be nice to get an offensive minded coach in here for once. Obviously the defensive minded approach has failed miserably!lol
     
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    For me it's hard to feel bad for his son who was convicted for sexual assault(which was really rape if you look at the court documents). After the Sandusky case, I have no sympathy for people like these.
     
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    That's how it is should to be.
     
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    Dungy could coach shortly after his son died because he had the belief that his son was not only with him, but he wanted him to coach. If Philbin has a similar view, then he will not only coach tomorrow, but he will coach for as long as the Packers are in the playoffs and then possibly with another team as their head coach this Fall. I've never lost a child, but I have lost a spouse, and you learn really quickly that life doesn't stop for you. If Philbin's family, including his late son, wanted him to be the head coach here, I can actually see him continuing to want it too.
     
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    Sexual assault should never warrant death. Only murders should.
     
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    wrong, if it warranted death , sexual predators would fade away.
     
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    It should because no victim is ever the same again after a rape. Go ask one of them.
     
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    Good luck with that.
     
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    Same could be said for burglaries and armed robbery.
     
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    you really have no clue
     
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    You're right.
     
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    Yeah. Like that defensive minded Cam Cameron. Oh, wait. He was offensive minded and was hired because we just absolutely had to have an offensive minded head coach.

    OK. Like that defensive minded Tony Sparano. Oh, wait. He was offensive minded as well.

    Oh, you must mean hire a coach like the offensive minded Don Shula. Oh, wait. Don Shula was a defensive minded coach.
     
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    The same COULD be said but it would be incorrect. Let's all just hope none of your loved ones ever have to go through that. I happen to know 3 people before and after they were raped and i am telling you they are NOT the same people I knew before. I have had my apartment burglarized and trust me, I HAVE gotten over it. Based on your statements, I am not sure you are qualified to speak on this particular subject. No offense.
     
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    Ok. You are the only person in this world that knows victims of sexual assault. That must mean you are qualified. :rolleyes2:
     
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    Look. I'm not going to go back and forth with this. All I know is I don't want Joe Philbin coaching the Dolphins. His son was a rapist and anybody that would commit such a hanus crime must not have been raised properly. And since Joe was his father I have to call into question his leadership abilities when he couldn't even rein in his own son.
     
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    By defensive minded....I mean conservative! Sparano was a firm believer in the "ground and pound". Sparano may work on the offensive side of the ball but his approach to the offense was definately conservative. Miami has not had a coach who has opened up the offense in years. That it was I mean smart ***!
     
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    Lol seriously? you have no idea how good of a father Philbin is. That is a ridiculous statement. He could have been the best father in the world and it is still possible his son could commit a crime. Just because someone is a criminal does not mean their parents are not good parents. Stop being foolish!
     
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    wow.
     
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    what was the story on the sexual assault beef?

    anyone know THE FACTS on this?
     
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    http://m.jsonline.com/sports/packers/41390072.html?ua=iphone&dc=smart&c=y

    According to the criminal complaint, Philbin and a friend forced one girl to have sex against her will in the family's living room. After he helped the second victim to his parents' bed as she passed out, Philbin allegedly had sex with her.
     
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    Even if the kid was a creep, it is still devastating to the family. Joe Philbin probably DOES feel like he failed somehow in life that his son did get bagged with a crime. Most of all, losing a child is brutal regardless of what they have done. Hope that none of us have to go through what the Philbin Family has to at this point...
     
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    If a kid goes out and smokes marijuana or gets into a little fist fight at school or even shoplifts, you can make that argument. But if a 17 year old(which is what Michael Philbin was at the time) forcefully PENETRATES A YOUNG WOMAN AGAINST HER WILL!!!!!, I'm sorry his parents FAILED MISERABLY!!! Let me give you some more information Mr. Expert; Do you know Joe Philbin did when he returned home and found out? He "yelled at" his son. He never bothered to find out who the victims were or what happened. Is that what you call a good parent?
     
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    I lost MY SON at 6 months old to heart failure and yes it was devastating. But I am not sure I would have been as devastated if he was a 17 year old out there raping people. I am passionate about this subject because although I have never commited a crime, I know plenty of crime victims who never hurt anyone but were raped or in one case killed. And when I hear about people like Philbin, Fein and Sandusky who get away with stuff because of their celebrity status it irks the hell out of me.
     
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    i say we i hire all those coaches, that would be on hell of a coaching staff
     

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