Jonas Gray

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  1. fanfin

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    gotta say really excited about this guy. I know he started practicing mid October, and by August he will be 100%. I was surprised how explosive his cuts were and I was very impressed how he ran over his pads. I think this guy is our #2 back and short yardage guy behind Miller. I never really saw what Ireland liked in Daniel Thomas and with the concussions and the fumbles and his hamstring injury I think he may be done.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPwPz7JVuCE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZBdeKNUcE


    scouting report: http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/jonas-gray-25/
     
  2. cuban_refugee

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    Ive been saying it for a while.....I believe in Jonas Gray!
     
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    He seems rugged. I wonder if he will be explosive enough. Should be a fun watch this summer. I am not worried about RB right now. Vet backs can be found at anytime. I would take a shot with Ahmed Bradshaw.
     
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    Was good at Notre dame too. I'd rather try him out than Thomas. I'm so sick of him! You have to worry about a fumble or concussion every touch
     
  5. fanfin

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    his career game was a 23 carry 92 yard game against Cleveland in 2011
     
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    meh undrafted 4th choice RB maybe he can play a role but cant say im excited

    Much more interested to see how Thigpen doesn
     
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    Thomas had some good plays last year. Let's see how he goes in preseason before throwing him in the trash. Actually, I haven't seen enough from Lamar Miller to declare him a three down running back.
     
  8. fanfin

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    he tore his ACL his senior year. Thats why he went undrafted.
     
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    Jonas who? Lol.. Exactly.. And thats what we'll be saying in two years when he is playing for the Titans, or the Bengals or whoever signs him after we release him. Players who dont evem see the field are way overrated on this board.. Ie.. Wallace, Pruit etc...
     
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    You're probably right, but every now and then one of those guys actually has talent. Bess, Wake, etc.

    Let us be hopeful for him
     
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    Hate to be that guy, but the week before that he ran for 107 against Houston on 18 carries (5.9 avg). Those two weeks combined had me convinced that Thomas was the future at RB. Oh well. Onto the Miller-Gray future (hopefully) :up:
     
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    I think it speaks volumes they kept him around on PS even though he couldn't practice till October because of his ACL injury. His lack of playing time isn't of skill, but injury. I think in 2 years you will be saying Daniel who? oh the guy we blew a 2nd round pick on.... atleast we got Miller and Gray
     
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    Our RB situation seems up in the air a bit. Miller seems to be the fragile type so I'm uneasy about him as our primary back. Daniel Thomas is OK when he plays, but a power back with concussion problems isn't comforting. I don't think a RB committee really has room for 2 injury potential type guys. If we're going with Miller for cap reasons, then I'd be more comfortable if we had a reliable power back, or at least another decent all-purpose RB through the draft like Gillislee.
     
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    Hope that happens. Gillislee in 4th round.
     
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    I love Jonas Gray but I wouldn't expect much from him this year. He is still really raw. I'm sure it helped him to be a part of the team while recovering but he just doesn't have much game experience.

    Something to keep in mind; he wasn't able to train for the combine or a pro day. Most of thes guys improve their 40 times by at least .1 with just learning correct technique alone.

    If he would not have been injured I expect he would have ran a 4.4. If he fully recovers he could end up looking a lot more like Ricky Williams than people think.

    If he could become a good receiver and blocker, who knows, maybe he will see some snaps this year.
     
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    being a Notre Dame fan I'm all in on Jonas...he's a beast
     
  17. fanfin

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    can u give a quick snyopsis?
     
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    Like him out of college
     
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    I already say Daniel who.. Don't get me wrong Gray deserves a chance over Thomas at this point because we already know how bad Thomas is. I didn't like him his rookie year either . And to make matters worse, it wasn't just a second we spent on the scrub but a second and a fifth

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    Miller seems to be fragile? How do you figure exactly?

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    If JG can fully recover, big if, he will be very good. Followed him with the Irish, remembered the hit at the bowl game that blew out his knee was very sad. He had an amazing burst. I am pulling for him.
     
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    He's had significant knee and shoulder injuries in the last 5 yrs.
     
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    gray will be a beast,3rd and short run out the game,where down the defense type back!
     
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    Pick up a vet RB, drop DT and draft a guy in 3rd, 4th.

    Move on to corner and Oline.
     
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    RB is an easy position to fill. You don't need a big name to run the ball up the middle.
     
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    Ya sure sure, Adrian Peterson and Daniel Thomas, there all the same right?
     
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    Those highlights are very encouraging. Thanks 4 the YouTube clips. He definitely deserves a chance to move up the depth chart. ACL surgeries are like Tommy John surgeries now; players seem to be almost more explosive after than before the surgery. We all saw what happened to Willis McGahee in that bowl game and look at the career he's had since. Frank Gore blew out both knees in college and now he's the closest thing to an 'iron man' as running backs get.
     
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    Here are some more complete videos I created a year ago because he was among my favorite UDFAs.

    [video=youtube;8MJOq1SdBcc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MJOq1SdBcc[/video]
    [video=youtube;83wet2qcq4E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83wet2qcq4E[/video]
     
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    your the man CK
     
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    Hopefully he can hold on to the ball better than Thomas.
     
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    alfred morris, arian foster, stevan ridley, benjarvus green-ellis, shonn greene, ahmad bradshaw... 6 of the top 15 rushers last year weren't drafted in the 1st round.
     
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    Be bold and draft Lacy!
     
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    Well, I know this much...I put every single carry and catch of his from 2011 into those two videos, and he had one fumble. So whatever fumble problems he may have had early on were mostly corrected in his senior year.
     
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    You guys all forget about Jtrain. Remember he was a HB for years before converting to fullback. This guy is versatile and can do it all....He reminds me of Jerome bettis and has a huge upside. He should be in even better shape this year. I think we will see a large dose of him.
    [video=youtube;WAWxeHZy7fg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAWxeHZy7fg[/video]

    Here is highlights from college. WE HAVE A HEALTHY POWER BACK FELLAS..

    [video=youtube;LaDTBQfngL0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDTBQfngL0[/video]
     
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    Thanks for the vids CK. Gray seems to be a patient runner who has good vision, and gets N-S in a hurry. Actually, what I saw in the vids reminded me a little of Lamar Miller.
     
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    With Miller, Thomas, Thigpen and Gray we're fairly solid. Wouldn't mind picking up a late rounder though.
     
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    Thanks. Those A&M highlights are sick. Hard to watch the low resolution stuff, but man can the JTrain just destroy people. Bowling ball ... unstoppable bowling ball. That hit he delivered in pass pro at the end of the video ... biggest hit I've seen in a while, even bigger than Clowney's helmet-separating hit on that Michigan RB. Wow, we need to find a way to get this guy the ball early in games, because he'll definitely soften the defense up ... if they're not leaving on stretchers.
     
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    With the weapons we now have... lamar will bust loose!!!
     
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    What you saw that reminded you of Lamar Miller is the fact that Jonas seems to be a natural cutback player. It's no coincidence they were both added to this offense after we brought in Philbin and Sherman.
     
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    I have high hopes for him and thank CK for putting together those videos. He has many of the attributes I really like to see in running backs (natural pad level, short strides, body coordination, lateral agility, powerful thighs). The blocking/pass receiving part of the game is not very good (which is common for guys out of college. Some get it and some don't, but he has the natural power for blocking at least). I also don't see great vision from him. It's more good vision. And despite great feet he seems slightly stiff in the hips to me.

    But it's hard not to look at that Pitt run in particular and see a guy who's 5'10", 225 lbs (ideal size) who runs a legitimate low 4.4. Hopefully he's returned fully from injury and keeps the momentum he had as a Senior after the rough start to his college career.
     

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