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Boomer said:SOME TALENT ??
Rivelino, Jairzinho, Gérson, Tostão, Carlos Alberto, Garrincha?? Bit more than 'some talent'.
Thus proving my point even more...
Boomer said:SOME TALENT ??
Rivelino, Jairzinho, Gérson, Tostão, Carlos Alberto, Garrincha?? Bit more than 'some talent'.
Boomer said:No, Oguchi Oneyewu.
:rolleyes2
Have you ever watched European football?
BigDogsHunt said:Agreed, this is about "on the pitch" talents not off......Pele is just better and talent around or lack thereof just doesnt change that.
Blueprint said::roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
As for Ronaldinho, talent-wise, you can't really argue against him. But of course, he really disappointed this year in the World Cup. Not to make excuses or anything like that, but Brazil doesn't play like a team so he couldn't do what he does best. Ronaldo & Adriano are the biggest ball hogs I've ever seen.....
:wink:wazzy said:Here comes a very homer statement by myself! If Ukraine should pull something out there *** and win the next world cup then Shevchenko should be considered to be on the list!
Prime Time said::wink:
ckb2001 said:You know, this question (who was the best) was asked in 2000 by FIFA and they gave out awards to the two winners (yes the two were Maradona and Pele).
To quote (by Football Family they mean FIFA officials, journalists and coaches):
"Pele topped a poll of FIFA's "Football Family." He took 72.75 percent of the vote to 9.75 percent for Argentine Alfredo Di Stefano and just six percent for Maradona.
Maradona took the Web-based vote with 53.60 percent to only 18.53 percent for Pele."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/2000/12/11/pele_maradona/
By the way, Maradona walked out before they gave Pele his award!!
Blueprint said::roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
As for Ronaldinho, talent-wise, you can't really argue against him. But of course, he really disappointed this year in the World Cup. Not to make excuses or anything like that, but Brazil doesn't play like a team so he couldn't do what he does best. Ronaldo & Adriano are the biggest ball hogs I've ever seen.....
Prime Time said:Thus proving my point even more...
Boomer said:Lost in this debate is the fact that you could make very strong cases for players such as Franco Baresi, Johan Cruyff, Michel Platini, Eusebio, Bobby Moore, Garrincha, Di Stefano, Gerd Muller, Puskas, George Best, Franz Beckenbaur, even Oleg Blokhin to be very close to any list involving Pele, Maradona and Zidane.
Most of the 'great player' debates are positionally biased anyway. Rarely would you ever see a list involving a defender or a goalkeeper and yet Baresi, Moore, Paolo Maldini, etc. are never considered. Likewise Gordon Banks, Dino Zoff, Peter Schmeichal, etc.
Boomer said:Lost in this debate is the fact that you could make very strong cases for players such as Franco Baresi, Johan Cruyff, Michel Platini, Eusebio, Bobby Moore, Garrincha, Di Stefano, Gerd Muller, Puskas, George Best, Franz Beckenbaur, even Oleg Blokhin to be very close to any list involving Pele, Maradona and Zidane.
Most of the 'great player' debates are positionally biased anyway. Rarely would you ever see a list involving a defender or a goalkeeper and yet Baresi, Moore, Paolo Maldini, etc. are never considered. Likewise Gordon Banks, Dino Zoff, Peter Schmeichal, etc.