MartinTheSNAKE
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What about marcus vick would u be willing to take a chance on him? The kid obviously has skills, and if hes gonna drop low y not take a chance on him
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tmny99
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Can Eric Winston play left tackle at the next level, or do you think the Phins would take him at right tackle and then have a competition between Carey and Alabi? Or will the Phins take Winston Justice? And if so right or left tackle? I really like Alabi (fellow Nigerian!) and I hope he makes it. CK, what's your assessment of Alabi? Thanks.
You didn't ask me, but I'm throwing this out for other people's thoughts.Dolphins_SR66 said:
I think if we land Culpepper, Jackson has to be on our radar for the sole purpose that we could get him and allow him to do his "rookie WR learning year" that so many WRs need when making the transition to the NFL while Culpepper is healing from his injury. That way when Culpepper is back, we have someone who's really ready to stretch the field in the manner Culpepper is accustomed to and take advantage of his arm.
Chambers can do that too, but right now Chambers is being used as the possession receiver in this offense. Booker is actually the deep threat. I'd think if we landed Culpepper we'd want a more bona fide deep threat than Booker without having to move Chambers from the position in which he made the Pro Bowl for the first time.
It'd be interesting to see a list of the top WRs who will be free agents after the 2006 season (there's nobody there this year), because that would probably factor into this too. If we think we can land one of those guys then we may not want to use a first-day pick on a WR this year.
ckparrothead
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finsfan_84 said:
I'd take him with a 7th...probably our last 7th round pick. Basically he's worth nothing to me more than just an investment. If you get him into camp, signed and under contract, and you keep his nose clean for 2 years, you have a decent shot at trading him to someone for a 4th or 5th two years later saying he's "reformed his ways" or whatever. Never, and I mean ever, do I want to see him actually taking snaps as our first string QB...from a character standpoint OR a talent standpoint. He's a better passer than his brother but I still am not convinced he's good enough to be an NFL starter. He becomes a sissy when hit a lot, too.
ckparrothead
Premium Member
tmny99 said:
What scares me about Winston is his short reach...about 32 inches...and his small hands, about 9.25 inches. Those are EXTREMELY short for a tackle prospect. He's pretty athletic, and he showed it in the Combine with his 40. He's also got great attitude, but you know what he has been dominated by speed rushers and he'll continue to be dominated because he just doesn't have the tools to do the job. He would be a serviceable tackle, but IMO he's a left guard.
Alabi was a Houck pick...spent 3 days with the man talking about football and life and whatever else. He's got a great tackle's body, he's very athletic (great broad jump and whatnot, not so much in the 40)...he was strong for college but needed to get stronger for the NFL. He looked like a backup OT in preseason when I watched him. He didn't look like a poor rookie that gets victimized over and over, but he didn't look like a starter either. That is to be expected, as he's got some work to do with his body and his technique to get to where he needs to be. We've heard that they really think he could be the LT of the future...maybe the RT...so we'll just have to say. Again, this is a HOUCK guy...if you trust Houck then trust Alabi.
PHINANALYST
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CK - I'll 2nd that notion for both Marcus Vick and Vince Young !!
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PhinsRDbest
Who D Best?
Sup, Boom and CK I dont know if this was anwsered a while back but thats alot of posts to look at. I was wondering what are your guys thoughts on Matt Roth. How do you guys see him fitting into our system? Could he lose wieght and play a Linebacker. Gain wieght and play a 3-4 DE? Will he just play on passing downs to rush the passer sorta like David Bowens last year?
ckparrothead
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PhinsRDbest said:
I don't mean to be rude, I know the thread is long and a bit cumbersome, but I believe we have addressed Roth and instead of typing something out again on him I think maybe if you just set your thread settings such that it displays all of a thread's posts on one page, then hit CTRL-F and type in "matt roth" you'll probably find our answers.
Jimi
The World Is Yours
Hey guys, this year ive followed USF pretty closley. Im a big Andre Hall fan and was wodering were you guys saw him going?
Can he slip into the 2nd round? I know hes undersized but he runs like hes 250. I heard he ran a very impressive 40 as well.
Can he slip into the 2nd round? I know hes undersized but he runs like hes 250. I heard he ran a very impressive 40 as well.
Dolphins_SR66 said:
McNeil just reeled off a 4.37 so that whole 'move to WR' may well happen. But first teams MUST disprove that he's not an NFL QB. After that happens, then lets see if he can play WR. He certainly has the size and speed to play there.
To give Chavous credit, he's stuck with McNeil since the end of the last draft.
As for Miami taking him, I think unlikely. There has been talk of Houston liking him as high as the 33rd pick. I think he'll probably go as QB in the 2nd round.
Becks7 said:
I think it all comes down to how much Linehan feels that he can move forwards and for how long, with Marc Bulger. At the Combine interviews, as CK said, Scott came away with some amazing quotes. I take the point that they have struggled on defense, especially with early draft picks - Archeluta, Polley, Kennedy, the Ohio State kid Pickett, the UM kid at DT, etc. But if Greenway, Hawk, Williams, Ngata, Huff, etc are gone, then I don't see them taking Jimmy Williams or Tamba Hali. Antonio Cromartie maybe, but if Young is there, then the only person I see them skipping Young for would be Vernon Davis. That's of course if Oakland haven't snapped him up at 7. (Davis not Young).
tylerdolphin said:
Shall I tell you the Mike Williams issue? Lack of commitment to the cause brought on by playing alongside Charles Rodgers and Roy Williams who have been dogging it in terms of working out, practices, etc. Rod Marinelli won't stand for any of that nonsense. None whatsoever. I think you'll see a very different triumverate of receivers this year.
They didn't help Harrington, yet Joey got a lot of the blame. Williams' speed was always a question mark, but the same thing was said about two very fine WR's a Mr J. Rice and a Mr A. Boldin.
I think as much as I like Peter King, lets wait 3 more years before we right him off.