My Theory: Frerotte Starts the Season; Feeley starts Week 6..

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  1. SkapePhin

    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    This would be consistant with Frerotte's last starting job..

    My reasoning is this, if Frerotte and company arent winning games, Saban might as well start Feeley to see more of the Dolphin's old investment, similar to what Seattle did years back wtih Hasselbeck.. If you recall, Hasselbeck sucked his first year, and lost his starting job to Dilfer the following year.. Hasselbeck took the job back mid season, and looked markedly better, and never gave the job back.. Its unlikely Feeley will pull a Hasselbeck, but it is possible..

    And I stand by my claim, if we arent winning, Frerotte will lose his starting spot by week 6..
     
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    all i knowis that on sat feely looked horrible
     
  3. Losman7

    Losman7 Greater of 2 Evils.

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    Kind of a rough theory if you're a finfan...

    I think if you name Frerotte the starter, its gonna take alot of poor play to make the switch... the only way that happens is if you're below .500.
     
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    I don't see this happening but it's kinda ironic that Heather Mitts (Feeley's girlfriend from Philly) said this on a philly sports show on comcast sportsnet last week. They asked her if Feeley would start and she said she wasn't sure but if he doesn't he would probably start a few games into the season.

    I have a hard time believing she know's much of anything but take it FWIW.
     
  5. NorFlaFin

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    :bugeye: I'ld like to start Heather Mitts
     
  6. SkapePhin

    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    That's my theory.. If they are below .500 by week 6, I think Saban makes the switch.. What good is it to play an old, struggling QB during a losing season, particularly if he is not in the longterm plans?
     
  7. LarryFinFan

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    That would mean another 4-12 season...
     
  8. FinaticPatch

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    Thats why its your "THEORY"
     
  9. Losman7

    Losman7 Greater of 2 Evils.

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    I don't disagree with you... I just don't think alot of posters around here are gonna want to hear or believe a scenario like that.
     
  10. Dudeman

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    my theory is that you will do anything in your power to bash Gus in any way possible, just because you dont like him for whatever reason
     
  11. CrunchTime

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    Thats my take on the QB situation as well.It may be better to be the second string QB if the team struggles early.Also by then Ricky will be back to make the QB look better..
     
  12. SkapePhin

    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    WTF? I am just stating a likely scenario.. If you think Gus is the next coming of Marino, or even Gannon, you are mistaken.. He is a journeyman QB, like one Jay Fiedler.. and his stats and past results bear this out.. It would be great if he could carry us to a playoff berth, but that is unlikely.. It is obvious he has a better grasp on this offense than the rest of the QBs for the moment, therefore he should start the season.. If he excells, EXCELLENT, but history doesnt support the claim that he will be a shining success.. He had a similar offense in Cinci, and failed miserably.. I believe Cinci had both Chad Johnson and Corey Dillon (who put up 14k yards that season) at the time.. Im not sure what his OL situation was, but it was probably similar...

    If you want to believe Gus will give us the World, be my guest, but you are surely setting yourself up for dissapointment..
     
  13. FIN-IN-RI

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    great original theory, must have taken you some long hours to come up with that one. :lol:
     
  14. SkapePhin

    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    I didnt see such a theory posted here, so I figured Id put it up for discussion..

    Whoever said composing a post for a Dolphins messageboard was akin to Quantum Physics? :confused:
     
  15. Dolphination73

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    How ironic!! Just like YOU do anything in your power to bash Feeley!!! :shakeno:
     
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    it's common sense.
     
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    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Ya, its such common sense that people still dispute the possibility... :rolleyes:
     
  18. Dudeman

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    if the offense is playing well, and the defense is the reason that they're losing, Gus would be pulled?


    and you obviously dont pay attention if you think that I believe Gus is great, because he's not. If its not his fault that the team plays poorly, they wont just yank him
     
  19. SkapePhin

    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    I think they would regardless, but if we are losing, its likely the OFFENSE's fault... I dont think our D will falter much under Saban..

    Saban will only play Frerotte because right now he gives us the best chance to win, if he is not winning, and the season is lost, what's the point?
     
  20. Dudeman

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    and since apparently you're not around very much, I'll let you in on a little secret.

    I've been for the best QB from day one, unlike other people here. But now, since its obvious that AJ isnt the best, I'm going to do my damned best to defend Gus from guys that want to see him fail, just so that they can see wonderboy play
     
  21. bigmiamifan

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    I was a Feeley Hugger, but I've backed off. I know the kid has gotten the short end of the stick and might lose out to Gus, but only because he hasn't done better then Gus, not because Gus is better then AJ.

    AJ had a 20 yard 3rd down pass to DT inside or near the red zone dropped at the Bears. Then get nailed twice because the OL and RBs gaffed. Then he has penalties and drops and play calling with back up OL and back up RBs getting no yards making for 3rd and long.

    So, I'm not making excuses, he could've shown more, especially knowing he needed to and he didn't. If he comes ion and scores a TD with the 2nd stringers, he might have won the job. He just seems like a great one dimensional QB. If the WR runs the right route and the OL blocks, AJ delivers a picture perfect pass. If however, that WR is covered, or the line lets in some pressure, AJ doesn't do well. So, I'm backing off of him for now and letting whoever Saban thinks is the guy do for it.

    I'd honestly like to see AJ start next week and then make a desision aftert the game. Give him one last good look, with the starters and knowing his *** in on the line to see what he does. That would take any and all controversy out of the equation, unless Gus were to tank it as well.

    IF they both tank it, I let Sage and Brock battle it out the 4th and 5th games and go with the young guns and get ready for next year's draft.
     
  22. nick1

    nick1 I am Groot Moderator Finheaven VIP

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    my view is that Feeley is cut before the season and that Fuerotte starts the year and will start the whole year unless injuried which then Brock Berlin will start
     
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    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    If you believe Brock Berlin is the 2nd best QB on this roster, you are delusional.
     
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    HybridPHIN 23 the N E W Dolphilbins

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    no doubt if we aint winning theres no reason to have Gus in there.....
     
  25. Jnaledu3

    Jnaledu3 Perennial All-Pro

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    Wow, with every game AJ falls further and further down the depth chart and you still say he will eventually start? By week 6, Sage might be the 2nd string QB, heck AJ might be cut with Berlin as the third string!
     
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    ya ya sisterhood!
     
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    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    I think Sage will have pro bowl numbers by week 6. 10TDs/0INTs.. JMO of course.
     
  28. Oregonfinfan

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    Funny isn't that what you do to Feeley?:confused:
     
  29. nick1

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    maybe in your eyes it's delusional but Berlin has done well so far, much better then Feeley has and as nicksabanrules said his uncle says that Feeley will be cut (his uncle is inside the Dolphins organization I beleive)
     
  30. SkapePhin

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    Berlin has been playing against future BURGERFLIPPERS!
     
  31. Phantom

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    Lets see here, you theory is, if the starter is not wiing games by week 6 he is replaced, well thats a real stretch.........
     
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    he has also been playing with the burgerflippers if thats what you call them
     
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    Meaning, he IS a burgerfilpper!
     
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    if thats what you think then thats fine
     
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    Let's face it, Gus is a temp. But I think Feeley won't get the start because Nick wants to put the AJ experiment to rest. He's given him the opportunity to win the starting job (and still is; no announcement's been made), but he's clearly not distinguished himself. Better off to stick with the temp, once you've decided he's your best option, so everybody agrees with the decision to draft/acquire a qb for next year.
    I think Feeley either wins the starting job outright, or he's essentially done.
    I think Saban wants to evaluate Feeley for himself and if he doesn't see him as the future, to move on. The other option is to have a Fiedler-type situation where you keep trying to force something to work that's just not working.
     
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    Dude, just b'cos I don't post much doesn't mean that I'm not on this site alot. Been scoping this site since 2002 and you've been tagged as a Feeley basher from the get go... Most of your posts will prove that. Anyway I'm not going to get into a back-and-forth verbal war with you on this... Never was my intention and hope it doesn't come to that!

    I'm a Feeley supporter but I don't want to see Gus fail... If he's named starter, I'll support him 'cos he's a Dolphin but I also know he won't take us anywhere!

    But what's with the "Wonderboy" comment?? Gus? Wonderboy?? C'mon!!! :lol:
     
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    Wow!! I think you should have enrolled in Summer School!! Or did you? But you know what.... I'll cut you some slack since you're only 17!!:D
     
  38. islandah

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    "Feeley is the only Miami quarterback without a touchdown pass so far this preseason, and has the lowest completion percentage (50.0) and quarterback rating (42.7)."

    From the Miami Herald article. What's the question here?
     
  39. jlfin

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    Gannon was a career backup until the Raiders acquired him (well into his 30's). Frerotte has been a starter, but has been mostly a good backup.
    Fiedler, on the other hand, wasn't even a journeyman. In fact he was no more than a 3rd-4th stringer until he became Brunell's backup in J-ville.
    In fact, after his brief stint with the Eagles he was out of the NFL completely for about a year (if I recall).
    There is no parallel between Frerotte and Fiedler. QB ratings mean very little. A lot has to do with the offense you play in. If ratings were the only measuring stick, then Steve Young is the best of all time.
    You have made the point that Frerotte is Fiedler-esque (which I disagree with) based on career QB ratings. Fiedler would be a colossal failure in an offense that relies on a downfield passing attack.He simply does not have the physical ability to play QB in the NFL. He is limited with respect to the throws he can and can't make. Frerotte is capable of making all the throws required of an NFL QB.
     
  40. ether79

    ether79 Down but not out!

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    I don't think he's basing it on QB ratings alone. I'm pretty sure if you look at games started, TDs, ints,atts,cmpls, and yrds they are pretty much neck and neck. I could be wrong about that though.
     

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