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  1. Ferretsquig

    Ferretsquig Perennial All-Pro

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    They blew the timing on that one. He goes from being trade bait for Waiters to being dumped for a second round pick. Now the Waiters rumors may all have been completely bogus in the first place but for about a month he had some real value.
     
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    I know we have said this about some teams, but I really believe a good college team can beat this Sixers team. Especially since they just lost to the Bucks by 20.
     
  3. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    I knew we'd be bad but... Damn. Losing every single game the rest of the way no longer seems unrealistic.


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    For the sake of the players, I hope they win at least one game. It was nice that they were competitive yesterday, but the mental toll of losing so many games in a row can't be good for the players.
     
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    Dolfan3773 Bleeding 305 since 1987

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    Lebron James breaks Glen Rices record for most points scored by a Heat player in one game, also breaks his own record for points in a game.
     
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    Cool stat, but wrong thread.
     
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    Dolfan3773 Bleeding 305 since 1987

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    LOL I just realized it. I was on my iPhone and missed the wrong thread.
     
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    No problem. That was an insane show that LeBron put on last night. It was fun to watch.
     
  9. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Looks like we're changing the uniforms again next offseason.
     
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    Again? By the way, nice to hear from you again. I would have been posting in here, but I would be talking to myself. Any idea what the uniforms may look like?

    Also, what guys do you want the Sixers to take with their 3rd and 10th picks?
     
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    Roman529 Moon Runner / The 3 AM Crew

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    The Sixers take:

    #3. Andrew Wiggins
    #10. Nik Stauskas
     
  12. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Pretty damn happy with the draft. I think we easily got the best player. Obviously there's injury concerns but I'm not worried about them. Doctors say the back is ok, and the foot isn't that serious. The prospects of this beast allowing Noel to play his natural position is exciting. They've been working on Noel's jumper his whole time off. This could potentially be the best big man duo we seen in ages.

    I like Saric a heck of a lot as a player too. He won't be able to play for a couple seasons. But the Sixers can afford to stash him overseas. They're doing this rebuild the right way for once and it's exciting.


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    I am right there with you Clipse. Once Embiid has recovered from his injury, a frontline with him and Noel is pretty damn exciting. That could be a great front court for many years to come. Good luck getting anything by them at the rim.

    I'll be honest, I don't know much about Saric, but he's definitely intriguing. Once he comes over here, I think his game can translate nicely to the NBA. Also, I like their first couple picks in the 2nd round. McDaniels has Thad Young written all over him, and I like the game of Jerami Grant. I think they can be helpful rotation players for the Sixers.

    Once all the guys they've accumulated over the last few years are healthy/come overseas, this team could be scary. A good kind of scary. They're not going to be that great this coming year, so there's a good chance they'll have a top 5 pick. What they're missing is a good shooter, and I would think that would be their goal for next year.
     
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    Think Hedo Turkoglu. That's the best comparison for Saric. If he can be for us what Turkoglu was for the Magic, I'd be ecstatic. Not to mention we got back the first round pick we lost in the Bynum trade. The Sixers are tanking again next year. Embrace the suck. But it's worth it at the end of the day.


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    We can live through a couple of rough years if it means the Sixers will be legitimate contenders for the next 6-8 years.
     
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    phinman1 Seriously now

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    I liked it too guys. Sixer fans have to be the most patient on Earth, but man if these players hit we're gonna be tough. Just got to get through the horror years.
     
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    I think it's clear Brown wants to build this team just like his former team the Spurs. Embiid-Noel as our version of Robinson-Duncan. MCW as Parker. And just like Ginobili who took 3 years after he was drafted to arrive in San Antonio, Saric too will be arriving a little later to hopefully be the final piece to an established roster, including next year's picks, and all the cap room we have for free agents
     
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    This team is set up to be a perennial contender for many years. I can't wait to see what this team will look like once everyone is here and healthy. We'll probably have a similar record as last year, but the more intelligent fans know that this is short term pain for long term gain.
     
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    I made my prediction on Wiggins to the Sixers before the Embiid injury, but I think Embiid will end up being more valuable over time. He may not turn into Olajuwon, but he should be very solid. We also got a bunch of nice picks coming back to us, and Saric is just 20 years old and needs a little more experience before he is ready to play with the big boys in the NBA. I think Saric's upside could make him a lot like Dirk cant-spell-his-last-name Nerwitzki?, so I am cool there. :)

    McDaniels was a guy projected in the mid-20's who we got at #32. Grant should be fine as he is Horace/Harvey's son/nephew. I don't know much about Pierre Jackson, but it sounds like the Serbian guy Micic has great size for a PG at 6'6" and can really pass the ball. Hinkie secured the Sixer's future, but the next year or two might be more of the same...I am cool with that.
     
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    I was initially hoping for Cleanthony Early with their #32 pick, but the more I've read about and watched McDaniels, I think he can be a valuable piece. I really liked the pick of Grant at #39. I think those two guys would be 1st rounders in most drafts, but with how deep this draft was, the Sixers got really good value at those spots.
     
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    I'm pretty happy with the 2nd round myself.

    I'm a huge fan of McDaniels personally. I think he starts day one actually. He's going to be a great defensive player for us. Again, going off the Spurs model, he's a similar player to Kawhi Leonard. If he can develop a jumper the same way Leonard has, watch out. The fact he was an 84% FT shooter tells me he may not be as bad a shooter as advertised, or at least has some kind of shooting skill which can be worked on. Kawhi was a good FT shooter too despite being an even worse 3 point shooter than McDaniels. McDaniels was lottery pick talent and may end up being a steal.

    Jeremi Grant is another guy who had lottery predictions before the season. Very limited offensively. Great size and length, terrific athlete. Kind of a tweener. I'm not as high on him as McDaniels, but I definitely think he can be a good role player for us as a defensive wing off the bench.

    I liked Pierre Jackson when we drafted him last year and was sad to see him go in the Jrue trade. Then he averaged 29 ppg in the d-league. I think he can be a good scorer off the bench for us. Like a Jordan Crawford. I don't like him more than Tony Wroten though, so unless the staff feels different I don't expect too much playing time for him.

    McRae. Good length, good athlete. Good all around player. Not sure he makes the team. Probably d-league bound for now. Micić has great size. Yet another 6'6" PG. Good passer. Who knows with him.

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    Jabari Parker will probably win ROY because he'll score the most points, but I think Nerlens Noel will have the biggest impact of any rookie. His defensive ability is incredible. That combination of length, quickness, and athleticism for a big in unfair. I don't think I've ever seen a big as adept at getting steals as he is, to combine with being an elite shotblocker, and being able to stay in front of players defensively. He might get pushed around from time to time, hopefully he plays mostly PF for us as I'd like Sims to start at C, but I think he's going to be an elite defender in this league.
     
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    He has looked very good in the summer league games he's played in. It's nice that we'll get to see him more in the summer league in Vegas. Even though his offensive game is still very raw, there are some noticeable improvements with his footwork down low, and that will continue to evolve over time. I knew he was a good shot blocker from what we saw when he was at Kentucky, but I didn't expect him to be so good at getting steals. Eventually pair him with Embiid, and that's going to be a fun pairing to watch.
     
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    I don't think he's as raw as originally advertised, or at the least, he's worked on his game a lot. His jumper still looks awful, but if it goes in, who cares. His free throw shooting has been the biggest thing to take from the summer league imo.
     
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    He has definitely worked on his game, and it's noticeable. The jumper is something that does need work no question. I did not expect him to shoot his free throws so well. If he can consistently do that, he'll be even tougher to guard.
     
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    My God this may be the worst Sixer team ever, even worse than the team that went 9-73 back in the early 70's, and I remember how awful they were. I think they were down over 50 points in the first half versus the Mavericks last night. I was watching the game along with the Dolphins-Bills at sport's bar.
     
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    This team is pretty brutal. I only was able to watch a little over a quarter before I turned it off. With MCW and Noel, they'll be a little better, but wins will still be hard to come by.
     
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    Watch Philly beat the Spurs tonight :chuckle:
     
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    Not just the worst Sixer team of all time. The worst NBA team of all time.

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    No argument there. In a season that has been awful and will continue to be awful, it's been nice to see McDaniels play well. Looks like the plucked a good one in the second round.
     
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    I told you about that kid. Here's what I posted about him in this thread after the draft:

    "I'm a huge fan of McDaniels personally. I think he starts day one actually. He's going to be a great defensive player for us. Again, going off the Spurs model, he's a similar player to Kawhi Leonard. If he can develop a jumper the same way Leonard has, watch out. The fact he was an 84% FT shooter tells me he may not be as bad a shooter as advertised, or at least has some kind of shooting skill which can be worked on. Kawhi was a good FT shooter too despite being an even worse 3 point shooter than McDaniels. McDaniels was lottery pick talent and may end up being a steal."

    Looks like I was right so far about his jump shot. Hell he's already a better shooter than Kawhi. His defense has been as advertised. He has the block of the season so far as I'm concerned to boot. Kid's athleticism is off the charts. Every game it seems like he makes at least one ridiculously athletic highlight play. I'm already sold on him being a steal, and think he's going to be the steal of the draft. Still shocked that he fell to the 2nd round. Simply unexplainable to me given his athleticism, talent, and skills.
     
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    You are dead on so far. I'll admit to not knowing much about him because I didn't watch Clemson last year. But as I read a little more once the Sixers drafted him, I saw he lead the ACC in blocks his last year. That's pretty impressive considering how good of a conference the ACC is. I think even to start this year he's averaging over a block per game. For a non big man, that has to be pretty rare.

    But this has been a painful start to the year. Might even go as far as brutal. Not that there is much of a silver lining, but over their last 6-8 games, they've been pretty competitive. Unfortunately, it hasn't resulted in any wins, but I'd much rather see a 5-6 point loss than a 30 point loss.
     
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    No history was made...at least tonight. Nice to see them finally get a win after being close a few times.
     
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    Glad to see MCW putting together a great stretch of games. Turning the ball over too much, but still.
     
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    It's great to see. Hopefully it's showing the coaches the he and Wroten shouldn't be on the court at the same time. MCW is much better as the main ball handler.
     
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    These were my seats at the Sixers game last night.

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    phinman1 Seriously now

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    We got the best player in the draft last night. Minn lost it's mind drafting Towns over Okafor. He is a guy who has nowhere near the offensive game of Okafor and who played against garbage most of his college career. Russell will prove to be a disappointment for LA. Why people think he will be special is beyond me.

    Yeah, it is a little log jammed at C right now. No idea how they'll work that out, I don't even think the Sixers know. What I do know is that we now have a franchise cornerstone. This is why you tank, to get a player like Okafor.
     
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    I don't see it. He doesn't play defense, and even when he tries hes hopeless whenever he gets pulled away from the basket. Teams will take that as an invitation to pick and roll him to death. Hes got no perimeter game, and with the zones people run today its so hard to be an efficient post player. I love watching guys like Al Jefferson play, but you can't win that way anymore. Like it or not Towns is the big man of today.....mobile enough to defend on the perimeter and capable of hitting the jumper.
     
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    Disagree big time. Okafor has a special low post game and is the best prospect in that regard in decades. Being able to deal 10 ft from the rim will never go out of style. We just have forgotten what it looks like bc there hasn't been a great big man dealing down low in a while. In this era of ESPN clips, all the big guys growing up wanted to do was dunk and jack up shots. Not this kid. He's slaved in the gym since a young teen pounding the fundamentals of low post bball.

    As for the Jefferson comparison. No way. He is bigger, stronger and a much better passer than Jefferson. Okafor has unbelievable hand size, dancer's feet and an endless array of moves down low.

    He's been the best wherever he has been, and not being the top pick will make him play w a chip on his shoulder. He'll be able to cover his deficiencies on D with effort and coaching. He's 19. Besides, he has Noel to help him back there.

    I look forward to saying I told you so when he is runaway ROY:d-day:
     
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    I imagine he will be the ROY, but that doesn't change the fact that it is going to be very difficult to build a winning team around him.

    There's a reason the NBA has moved away from post play, and its not just because the players with that skillset no longer exist. The simple reality is that the best post players in the game are still inefficient scorers by modern standards. Its something Karl realized pretty quickly in Sacramento. Hes got the most dominant physical force in basketball today who happens to be incredibly skilled and hes running pick and roll basketball with him because at the end of the day its far more effective than posting him up. Every change in the game over the past generation has promoted motion in offense and penalized stagnation.

    If he had great defensive potential it would be another story. His finishing ability alone combined with a defensive presence would make for a winning combination. But hes not a great athlete and below the rim big men rarely become competent defenders, no matter how much work they put into it. So now you've got to pair him with a defensive presence, which more often than not means a second player on the floor that noone is going to defend more than 10 ft from the basket.

    He was built for another time, when everyone had to play man defense and you could spend all day backing your man down in the post. Maybe the NBA will eventually veer back in that direction but I don't see it happening in the next decade. This new way is a whole lot of fun to watch, and I don't think anyone wants to go back to what basketball was like in the 90s.
     

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