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Omar's free agency approach, it's actually not that bad of a plan

This is an awful plan, imo. I just can't imagine that many big-name players becoming phins - Wallace, Jennings, Reed, Osi, Welker, Bennett, Goldson, Keller, Abraham, Freeney, Pacman Jones. It's like he went down the FA lists and picked out names he recognized. Landing a group of these is just so unrealistic to me. I cannot imagine getting good value for many of these players.


the key is not all of them, i disagree with Omar, but Pacman has gotten better, and Omar has been on this "greybeard" kick for a couple of weeks waving the mancrush flag for keller, and Reed especially
 
This is an awful plan, imo. I just can't imagine that many big-name players becoming phins - Wallace, Jennings, Reed, Osi, Welker, Bennett, Goldson, Keller, Abraham, Freeney, Pacman Jones. It's like he went down the FA lists and picked out names he recognized. Landing a group of these is just so unrealistic to me. I cannot imagine getting good value for many of these players.

Actually if read read the article right, his idea plan is Wallace, Reed, Osi, Bennett, and Jones.

The others are alternates in case the first guy he wanted passed up the Dolphins.
 
This is an awful plan, imo. I just can't imagine that many big-name players becoming phins - Wallace, Jennings, Reed, Osi, Welker, Bennett, Goldson, Keller, Abraham, Freeney, Pacman Jones. It's like he went down the FA lists and picked out names he recognized. Landing a group of these is just so unrealistic to me. I cannot imagine getting good value for many of these players.

Exactly then we'd go from the luxury of all this cap space this year to have to cut most of those guys next year. The only free agents we should go after are 27 years old or younger that way we know they have their prime ahead of them. We don't need to sign a lot of mid to high profile free agents just a WR, a CB, & maybe a FS (which I would take the older E.Reed or C.Woodson on a two year deal) or RT. Build through the draft, don't just spend money for the sake of spending money because it will bite us in a year or two.
 
Things I like:

Price points on Wallace and Jennings.
The TE's he's giving a look.
Looking into Winston.
John Abraham.

Things I don't:

Hartline.
Welker as fit here.
The need to resign Fasano if we sign Cook or Keller.
His ideas about the CB position.
How much money he's spending on this plan. I mean, I understand if you're Ireland, you're going to break the bank to save your job, but if you're not approaching it with that mindset, this is a pretty stupid approach to building a football team.
 
Omar makes sense for once. I agree we should try to get the "top dog" first....Mike Wallace...make him a good offer, if he passes on it than we should focus on Jennings or Welker. Then we need to focus on our next biggest area of need and target them....hopefully Ireland can fit together a nice team through free agency and the draft and spread the money around fairly.
 
Why does everyone slam on Omar?

It's because Omar is usually very negative about the Phins. He also loves to Twitter about the nightclubs and restaurants he frequents and the people he meets in the clubs. He should focus on football and not the celebrities he seems to be in love with.
 
Welker is only Welker because of Tom Brady...anywhere else, he's just another guy. But I hate Welker, Tom Brady, and the Pats so I may be biased, but I don't want that shrimp anywhere near this team **** Wes Welker.

The rest of the plan sounds cool though. Although I like Cook more than Bennett.

Ross and Ireland should be at Wallaces door step 1 second after free agency opens, escort him to the private plane, fly to Brazil for all I care but do no tlet that man get off the plane until he agrees to become a Fin. If we don't sign this guy, all of our TD production is going to have to come from Hartline, Matthews and a rook. Which means we will be at the bottom of the league in scoring again this year.
 
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Welker is only Welker because of Tom Brady...anywhere else, he's just another guy. But I hate Welker, Tom Brady, and the Pats so I amy be biased but I don't want that shrimp anywhere near this team **** Wes Welker.

How do you hurt your enemy (the Pats) the most?....by stealing away one of their top weapons on offense. It's not just about what Wes might do in a Phin's uniform, but it's what it would do to hurt the Pats. I am tired of that midget always running those 3 yard slant patterns and picking up 1st downs because nobody can cover him. BUT I also think Tannehill can throw a short five yard pass just as well as Brady. Welker keeps drives alive and if we added him and a deep threat receiver it would be tough for defenses to cover them.
 
Did he forget that we have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds? Did he count how much money all that is altogether?
 
you come out the gates with $32 mil on the table for wallace there's no doubt in my mind he's a dolphin...i think omars dreaming though if he plans on landing goldston on gibril wilson money...good luck with that...william moore might bite for that ed reed might given his age but i doubt gholston would...

i have no idea why we would up the offer to hartline period...anything at $7 mil miami should just walk away from...it's a bad contract

$32 mil though for wallace who is not a physical win wr or a red zone threat...wow...i want a legit playmaker but that's some serious coin...

oh and he's low on his offers to keller and cook...might get bennett for that given the way he may be perceived by some teams as a headache...
 
I'd open up free agency on Saturday night by making Mike Wallace a five-year-$60 million offer, which features $32 million in guaranteed money. If that doesn't get the deal done then I'd immediately move onto Greg Jennings, making him a respectable four-year offer, which would pay this older reciever $8 million a season. The guaranteed money on Jennings' deal would be
I'd focus on locking down one of those two receivers before sweetening my initial offer to Brian Hartline, which would be in the three-year, $14 million range. Make $8 million of Hartline's offer guaranteed, which means any other suitor would need to come strong to lure the eighth 1,000-yard receiver in Dolphins history away from Miami.
If no Wallace or Jennings, then go get Patriots free agent Wes Welker. The goal is to avoid striking out completely like last year.
After addressing the receiver position I'd upgrade the tight end spot by pursing Martellus Bennett, Dustin Keller, or Jared Cook, in that order. Make them all a three-year offer in the $4 to $6 million per year range and see who bites down hardest. While Bennett's quirky personality doesn't fit Philbin's style (he prefers sheep), Bennett is the top every down tight end on the free agent market.
If forced to settle on Keller and Cook, two seam threats who struggle as pass blockers, re-signing Anthony Fasano for a two-year deal worth about $4 million becomes a priority because Bennett is the only free agent tight end other than Fasano who can actually block, and nobody on Miami's present roster can.
Once the playmakers are upgraded, I'd use the remaining camp space to fortify the offensive line by making another run at former UM standout Eric Winston, offering him a respectable three-year contract worth $14 million.
Despite being cut by Kansas City on Thursday, Winston's still young, durable, and has been one of the more productive offensive linemen in the NFL the past four seasons. His presence would allow Jonathan Martin to move back to his natural position at left tackle, and encourage the Dolphins let Jake Long walk.
Once the offense has been addressed, the priority on defense should be finding an upgrade over Chris Clemons, and adding a veteran pass rusher who can serve as a stopgap for the next two seasons.
Offer Ed Reed, Dashon Goldson and William Moore the same deal Bill Parcells gave Gibril Wilson back in 2009, signing him to a four-year deal worth $28 million (with $16 million guaranteed). Reed would be my top choice despite his age, but Goldson and Moore are no slouches.
If we fail to land one of those safeties, I'd rummage the bargain bin and make a respectable two-year offer to former UM standout Kenny Phillips, who has been productive when not sidelined by knee injuries. If I can't upgrade the position with one of those four safeties I'd ride it out with what I had (Jimmy Wilson or Jonathon Amaya) and draft one early if Clemons signs elsewhere.
The finishing piece to my free agency plan would be signing Osi Umenyiora, a pass rusher who still has plenty left in the tank despite his minimized role with the Giants last year. A pass rushing specialist like Umenyiora would be ideal opposite Cam Wake as long as he's not commanding more than $6 million a season. If the two-time Pro Bowler becomes too expensive than make a run at Dwight Freeney or John Abraham, two older defensive ends, as the fall back plan.
The easiest way to improve the entire defense is to beef up the pass rushing. Better pass rushing improves coverage. And speaking of coverage, I'd address the cornerback position by adding a lower priced veteran like Adam "Pac Man" Jones, who can still be productive, and doubling down on cornerbacks early in April's draft, selecting two like the Dolphins did when they drafted Vontae Davis and Sean Smith together back in 2009.
Cornerback is an expensive position, and since every free agent has warts, the odds of a team getting what they paid for at that position are slim. Therefore, go young and hungry at that one spot, and spend the rest of free agency bargain shopping.
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Reed, Osi, Abraham, Freeney, all too old and on downside of careers. No thanks.
 
It's because Omar is usually very negative about the Phins. He also loves to Twitter about the nightclubs and restaurants he frequents and the people he meets in the clubs. He should focus on football and not the celebrities he seems to be in love with.

Thx. Ya I can see how annoying that would be.
 
Actually if read read the article right, his idea plan is Wallace, Reed, Osi, Bennett, and Jones.

The others are alternates in case the first guy he wanted passed up the Dolphins.

If we get those players, this team is contending for a Super Bowl for the forseeable future.
 
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