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Continuing on in my series on the QB position, since it's the one that everyone wants to know about, here is my take on T.J. Yates of North Carolina. Now, I've been talking about Yates a lot this year. Read through previous posts and you'll see that, I've been one of the few beating his drum.

Like Ben Chappell, whom I will be doing a workup on some time soon, Yates is one of the most underrated players in the entire Draft. Nobody is talking about the guy right now. I can guess why. The reason is because prior to this year, he hadn't quite "got it" yet, and since he'd been playing for so long without climbing into the highest reaches of statistical monsters in the league, people want to ignore the player he has become because they're naturally skeptical of the growth trajectory. Something has to be fake about it. He can't be this good. He can't have gone from the player that was disappointing people two years ago, to the inconsistent player he was a year ago, to the consistent field general he is this year.

In that way, his story reminds me of Jason Campbell's. Campbell was a continual disappointment at Auburn, but he also had to deal with changing offensive coordinators and systems, and by the time he finally settled into a system for the second year in a row, he was really, really good. People are still doubting him in the pros, laughably starting Bruce Gradkowski over him. All he does? Go out there and perform. His QB rating is always in the mid-80's, and when he's in the Raiders offense they score 27 points a game. Point being, when Campbell was coming out, he was a sneaky guy that floated up the Draft boards...and the media market had to kind of slowly get used to the idea that he was a genuine high rated prospect, because for years he'd been the disappointment guy.

Where do I ultimatley have T.J. Yates. I'm not sure I can decide that, yet. I know that I have picked out five quarterbacks in this Draft that I genuinely LIKE and would want. So, if you want to simplify it, I like T.J. Yates better than everyone not named Andrew Luck, Blaine Gabbert, Pat Devlin and Ben Chappell...and perhaps above Chappell, maybe even ahead of Devlin. Who knows? I'm still waffling on Cameron Newton. He's not among the "guys I like" list yet...but he is among the "guys I wouldn't mind drafting" list.

I think that if the Miami Dolphins drafted T.J. Yates in the 2nd Round of the 2011 Draft, there would be a lot of boos. I would not be among them, and I would argue hard to soothe peoples' anger over that. In my heart, he's that caliber a prospect.

Background: He was not a super high recruit out of High School. He only played one year at Pope High School, but he'd been playing football since he was 4 years old. He was a multi-sport athlete. He averaged 18 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists as a backetball player. He threw for 2300 yards and 17 TDs, rushed for 300 yards and 7 TDs, and punted 34 times for 1237 yards in his one year at Pope High. He was rated the 60th prospect in the state of Georgia by SuperPrep. You know what I find funny? I'll get to more about this later, but the players I wanted to compare him to are Peyton Manning and Chad Pennington. Sure enough, in his background, one discovers that he grew up near Indianapolis and his favorite team is the Colts, and he follows them closely to this day. It shows.

Surrounding Cast & Offense: This is a pro style offense, almost to its own detriment. It's a play-action based system with a vertical passing game, rollouts, protections, double moves, delay routes, pump fakes, check down options, hot reads, cut-offs, option routes, screens, audibles, everything you might see at the NFL level or on the Miami Dolphins (except ironically, more detail and execution oriented). His offensive line is not particularly good at all. As Simon once put it, Right Tackle Mike Ingersol is the second worst offensive lineman he's graded all year. Heading into this year, Yates had to be awful excited about having the likes of WR Greg Little, RB Johnny White, RB Anthony Elzy and TE Zach Pianalto. Too bad! Little got caught up in the huge NCAA violations snafu along with Marvin Austin, out for the entire year. Pianalto made it 6 games before getting hurt. Anthony Elzy was one of his top passing targets and made it 8 games before he got hurt. Johnny White made it 9 games before getting hurt. And let's not mention the players on defense that have had to miss all or part of the year, due to the scandal. A defense that was supposed to be the best in the country has instead allowed 23 points a game. New targets have emerged for Yates, chief among them the deep threat Dwight Jones. Erik Highsmith is not a dynamic player, and the tight ends after Pianalto are just bodies. Yet, they are 7-5 and haven an upcoming Bowl game against the Tennessee Volunteers.

Throwing Skills: He doesn't have a hot cannon like some of these players (Ryan Mallett, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert), but he doesn't have to get a full follow-through in order to get juice on his 20-25 yard throws either. I would say his arm is somewhere in the viscinity of Andrew Luck's. He can smoke the 15 to 20 yard ball, and launch the ball 60 yards vertically with high trajectory and good spin on a relatively painless wind-up and delivery. He regularly does so, and very, very accurately. He throws naturally, he doesn't aim the ball on his short throws, or look awkward in any way. His comfort zone is between 15 and 25 yards, and he'll opt for throws in that range within the offense on most of his throws. But as I mentioned, he mixes them up with 50 to 60 yard verticals, which are most often on the mark. I can watch Blaine Gabbert hit 1 of 7 deep vertical throws, where T.J. Yates even with players he didn't necessarily know he'd be relying on, will hit on more like 6 of 7 deep verticals right in stride. His ability on the deep vertical is one of the more amazing aspects of his game. When he misses, he only JUST misses. He leads his receiver excellently. Speaking of leading his receiver, his passing offense is really very oriented toward hitting receivers on the move rather than receivers coming back to the quarterback. It's more RAC-friendly. On the one hand this means that he doesn't have a lot of tape of the kinds of throws Chad Henne is asked to make regularly, the comebacks and curls, etc. On the other hand, it shows how good his location is that he can get the ball to players on the move and run a more RAC-friendly offense, and those offenses are more successful in the NFL than Miami's conservative passing principles.

Throwing Mechanics: Sometimes his ball will come out at about an earhole delivery, due to his focus on quick, three-quarters release. This is especially the case due to his focus on passes in the 15 to 25 yard range through the air. This is as opposed to Pat Devlin, who has the same quick release, but still gets the ball up over top even on the short passes. Yates gets his arm up on bigger throws, and like I said his release is quick and mechanically very sound. He steps into his throws, as TedSlimmJr points out stays over his front foot. On his vertical throws, his shoulder aiming and release points, foot spacing, are perfect.

Pocket Mechanics: This is the most fundamentally sound technician in the Draft at the quarterback position, overall. As I said before, it's funny watching him and thinking, I'm watching a young Peyton Manning, he's THAT obsessive-compulsive over the details and minutae...and then you find out he's been a Colts fan all his life and keeps close track of them to this day. His fake and handoff mechanics go beyond "good". To him, they're at the level of an art. He sticks the ball out, ducks his head, and has a commitment to making his fakes and handoffs look identical. He takes the time and shows haste and commitment to faking after the handoff, whether it be faking like he still has the ball and he's about to pass it, or faking an end-around handoff after the fact. He is a dropback passer that pops his head around quickly after the play fake, and his feet are in a real hurry to get back from center. He moves his feet quickly and doesn't elongate his stride, which makes him more reactive during his setup. He uses the pocket and slides through it rather than running away from it, breathing well inside the pocket. I don't sense issues with batted balls. At quarterback you want a guy that owns the football, and he owns the football. He is able to quickly get control of bad shotgun snaps, and on other shotgun snaps his ability to get control of the ball looks effortless. His manipulation of defensive players on screens is very good.

Offensive Command: His mastery of this fully pro style play-action vertical passing and screen offense is not quite at Peyton Manning levels, but you can tell that he is committed to being there the more he works at it. He makes every detail of the game his obsession, including things like a hard count with a subtle head bob, things of that nature. He regularly audibles, uses formation changes, motion, sets protections, and calls for hot reads and cutoffs. He runs the offense like a top, never runs into time issues, never seems to need a timeout. He seems particularly good at running the offense through the 2 minute drill. He executed one of the most impressive 60 second drills I've seen this season college or pro in his first game of the 2010 season against LSU. He started the drive with the ball at his own 27 yard line, 1:08 remaining with NO timeouts, and down 6 points against a top SEC defense. He methodically got the ball all the way to LSU's 6 yard line before Zach Pianalto dropped two balls in the end zone to end the game, the second drop featuring Defensive Pass Interference that went uncalled.

Reading Defenses: His ability to read the field is highly evident. He is not quite as adept at using his eyes to fake defenders as Pat Devlin, but he's close, and he is right there with Devlin as far as taking in the whole field and getting down to his 3rd and 4th reads. He, like Devlin, is far more advanced than Blaine Gabbert in this regard. Except, unlike Pat Devlin, this guy is doing it against the likes of LSU, Florida State, Clemson and NC State, and that really has to count for something. One thing that he shows that I really like is the ability to stay on the same page and read the improvisation of his receivers. His receiver we'll point somewhere, he'll SEE IT, and he'll make the throw. You wouldn't think so, but it's pretty rare for a quarterback to be able to see everything on the field and have the game be slow for him to where he can make those kinds of reads and decisions on the fly. He will play with a trust level in his receivers, throwing the ball and letting them make a play on it. The throwaway is very much in his arsenal, he does it regularly, he's an unselfish player. He understands how to play the high-low game to victimize zone coverage and going back to the eyes, it's one of the many details that uses and I have no doubt he'll continue to work on it at the next level. I have noticed that he can be robbed underneath, and at times he can forget zone defenders coming from way over. Virginia Tech had a successful strategy to take away his deep ball and force some turnovers, and that was to have the defensive back on the back side bail all the way back and help with the deep vertical to the play side. He can also try and fit the ball into too tight a window, at times, relying on his arm too much. This is the sin of many a great, confident quarterback.

Timing & Anticipation: His timing and anticipation are about as good as it gets at this level. He throws the ball often before the player makes his break. He gets good timing on the ball even on 3rd or 4th reads, without necessarily hurrying through his progression or skipping open players. He shows good timing on screens to the runner.

Ball Location: He will go through pretty long stretches where his ball location on short routes is excellent, but then he can screw it up at times, as most of these guys do. He has much better ball location than Blaine Gabbert, from what I've seen. Pat Devlin might have better location, just because Devlin can go almost an entire game without throwing more than one or two off on the location. Again though I have to emphasize that his placement on the deep vertical is pretty damn special.

Under Pressure: This is his biggest weakness, really. He's a safe decision maker under pressure, but he will also get sacked. He doesn't have the physical prowess to step up and create on the move. This is not unlike Peyton Manning. If you get Peyton on the move, you're putting him in a position where he's a lot less effective. He's up and down on the bootleg with pressure on his face. I've seen him take sacks and look a little questionable on it because he can't create, but at the same time I often see him get his head around quickly and release the ball very quickly off the boot. If the guy is open, the ball is coming out catchable and timely. If he's not, and there's pressure right in his face off the boot, that's where sack issues come into play. He also needs to learn to slide in appropriate situations. He may have an alarming number of the details right, but there are still other details left to be mastered.

Touch: His touch on short passes is natural, and on the deep verticals is downright perfect. The ball doesn't sail, he gets the nose of the football down. If you want to see a deep passing CLINIC, then watch his game against Florida State this year. You will see what I mena. His combination of timing, footwork, and touch on the screen pass make him probably the most advanced screen passer in the Draft, and North Carolina commonly used the screen pass as a weapon. What is more of a question mark is his shoulder aiming, touch and accuracy on the kinds of passes designed to fit into the spaces between the zones. He doesn't make a whole lot of use of the intermediate depth areas, so there isn't a lot of tape of these kinds of throws.

On-Field Demeanor: He is very calm on the field, communicates well. I don't see him angry, don't sense selfish throws or selfish plays. He seems to get excited along with his players. I just don't sense an issue this way.

Feet: Nobody is ever going to confuse him for a track star. When you get him out of the pocket and on the hoof, you're more holding your breath than anything else, because you know that more often than not, the best you're hoping for is a throwaway decision. However, his feet in the pocket are not at all leaden. They're very lively, within the pocket. He can step up, into and through the pocket, finding passing lanes. He's much quicker than Chad Henne in this way, because the feet match the speed of his mind, and he's a quicker thinker than Chad Henne.

Overall: Peyton Manning is the name that keeps coming to mind as I watch him play. Not necessarily because he's got Peyton's talent, but because he's got Peyton's dedication to the details and the art of operating an offense on the field as a field general. As I said, I looked back at my initial notes on Yates and the name Peyton Manning popped up four times. Then I do some more background and discover Yates grew up around Indianapolis and is a big Colts follower to this day. That's the definition of 'not a coincidence'. I just got done telling another fellow draftnik it wouldn't surprise me if T.J. Yates had been to Manning Camp. Sure enough I do some more checking as I write this, he attended Manning Passing Academy three years in a row 2008, 2009 and 2010. There, he taught 900 kids how to play quarterback. What exactly did Manning boys put Yates in charge of teaching in 2009? What else? Throwing the long ball. "You have to get a high release, wide base and get some air under the ball so the nose will be pointing down and land right where you want it. We put a bucket downfield and had the kids try to throw into it". The reason you buy a T.J. Yates is the reason he's the only QB I can think of that has been to three straight Manning Camps...commitment to the art of playing quarterback. He is committed to mastering every minute detail of the game, and quite frankly, he's shown in 2010 a monstrous aptitude for getting those details right on an every-play basis. He makes mistakes and he gets careless, but that commitment to the art of playing quarterback was always present in 2010, every game. The release, the technique, the mechanics, fakes, hand-offs, eye use, understanding what a defense is doing to him, understanding what he wants to do with his offense, getting players on the same page with him.

We talk a lot about upside in the Draft game. The quarterback is a unique position, because it's one where discussions of upside are not exclusive to the subject of a guy's size, his arm strength, his inherent accuracy, or his feet. With a quarterback there is an upside associated with how much information a guy can process at one time. There is an upside in how dedicated a guy is at getting every minute detail of the position down. There is an upside associated with how hard a guy is willing to work in order to prepare each week for the game. Those are T.J. Yates' weapons. They're his tools. They're the reason he should continue to get better, the same reason why even when everyone thought guys like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady were maxed out by their fourth or fifth years in the league...they continued to get even better and better. I don't know how good T.J. Yates will end up. What I do know is he's really good right now, and even though I think you're going to hear some people claim that his upside is limited, or he's as good as he's going to be, I can guarantee that he'll get better...because he has the commitment to the details and the art of playing the game. Oh, and the size, arm strength, accuracy, all that? Not bad, either.
 
Do you see any of the qb's out of T J Yates, Blaine Gabbert, Pat Devlin, and Ben Chappell being worth the 17th pick in the draft or are they more like 2nd 3rd round possibilities?? Also based on your write up the main things holding Yates back from being a top prospect is lack of college production and how he handles pressure. Do you think he could be one of the college quarterbacks who excels once he gets into the NFL and plays behind a good o-line?

Also great job on all the write ups, I like having insight from someone who actually understands what to look for in a prospect.
 
I think that Blaine Gabbert may end up grading out worthy of the #16 pick (which is where I believe Miami will pick). The others, probably not. Miami does not possess a 2nd round pick, and so I could see them waiting to see whether Yates or Devlin fall to that 3rd round pick of theirs, where they grab one and begin his development into a possible future starter.

But, if Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert and Ryan Mallett all come out, there's actually a fair chance Miami goes ahead and grabs one of those guys. Just because I don't like a guy, doesn't mean they won't. They may really like Ryan Mallett, for all I know.

I think that T.J. Yates was in a tough offense to really master at North Carolina, and even tougher to get everyone on the same page with him in all likelihood. I think he was put under pressure a lot and he tried to fit the ball in tight spots, took too many chances. Somewhere along the way, a lightbulb definitely turned on for him. The game slowed down for him. His pro career could duplicate his college career...taking a while for the light to really turn on. But, based on what I've seen, you can trust in his dedication, trust that every year he's going to be just a little bit better. Sometimes you have to be patient. Nobody want to be patient with Paul Soliai, look where we've gotten with him. He kept getting better every single year and I kept telling people that, people didn't want to believe it.
 
dammit ck you are gonna make me dvr the damn tar heels bowl game now...
 
Great write up on one of the most underrated QBs in this draft. I was at the UNC/ FSU game this past year and he was AMAZING. Thanks!
 
He wouldn't be a bad guy to roll the dice on. Maybe we can trade back in the 1st and pick him up.
 
Part of the story on T.J. Yates is his performance in the clutch this year. It hasn't always been good, back in 2009 he had some interceptions at bad moments. But something clicked this year and he's been phenomenal in the clutch and in the 4th Quarter in general.

1. Against LSU, as I said he directed one of the most impressive 1 minute drills I've seen in college or pro this year. He had 1:09 left with no timeouts, needing 6 points, and he directed them all the way down the field to the door step of the end zone with enough time on the clock to throw the ball into the end zone from the 5 yard line twice. Both passes were dropped by Zach Pianalto. The first he was wide open, ball could have been placed a little better but it was still a drop. Second one was actually a defensive pass interference that went uncalled.

2. The Georgia Tech game came down to a final drive, down 30-24, that stalled mid-field.

3. The FSU game was ridiculous for him. It was a deep passing clinic, deep ball after deep ball perfectly placed. But a disastrous botched punt while maintaining a 34-28 lead gave FSU the ball on the goal line for the TD to go ahead 35-34. With 6 minutes remaining, Yates led a super impressive drive 72 yards down the field, chewing up 5 minutes of the clock, and ending with a field goal from the 5 yard line. FSU had less than a minute when they got the ball back. Butch Davis went on to say that was the single greatest drive he'd been a part of since taking over as Head Coach of North Carolina. The game ended with a missed 40 yard field goal but that was because Greg Reid returned the kickoff 50 yards to the UNC 45 yard line...you don't expect that to happen.

4. Watch the end of the Clemson game. They're trying to close out the game with another of those 4th Quarter drives, Johnny White is running well and gets a few 1st downs on his own but then up comes a 3rd & 9 and they need Yates to convert in order to keep the clock ticking and prevent Clemson from getting the ball with a chance to win the game with a TD (they just got a TD on the previous drive so they had the momentum). John Shoop calls a boot pass, which he calls too often and defenses are consistently onto it, DaQuan Bowers peels off from weak side DE and runs straight to where he knows Yates is coming off the boot. Yates flips his head around and there's the monstrous Bowers literally right in his face, but he flicks the ball super quick right into Johnny White's bread basket. The release was so quick Bowers couldn't react to it, and the ball was perfectly on target to White in stride. He got that ball out extremely early, so early the ball was in White's lap before he even knew what to do with it (did a great job securing it), and the play gains 12 yards. That's a super clutch play.

5. There's no reason UNC should have been down to William & Mary, but they were, and Yates and White led them to two 4th Quarter TDs to win the game.

6. They were comfortably up 24-10 on Duke, but then Shaun Draughn gets caught in the backfield on 1st & 10 for a safety, Duke takes the free kick and drives for a TD, suddenly it's a 24-19 game with 3:20 left and Yates needs to get a 1st down to put the clamps on the resurgent Blue Devils. He throws 9 yards on 1st & 10 and makes it easy for the running game to get that 1st down.

Quarter by Quarter Passing Results:
1st: 129.5 QB Rating - 83 of 100, 1128 yards, 6 TDs, 1 INT, 13 runs, 52 yards, 0 TDs, 5 sacks, -38 yards
2nd: 88.6 QB Rating - 62 of 105, 719 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT, 10 runs, 45 yards, 2 TDs, 8 sacks, -69 yards
3rd: 84.7 QB Rating - 55 of 88, 624 yards, 4 TDs, 3 INTs, 9 runs, 49 yards, 0 TDs, 11 sacks, -57 yards
4th: 93.6 QB Rating - 64 of 94, 765 yards, 4 TDs, 3 INTs, 10 runs, 40 yards, 0 TDs, 10 sacks, -77 yards
Total: 100.1 QB Rating - 264 of 387, 3181 yards, 18 TDs, 8 INTs, 42 runs, 186 yards, 2 TDs, 34 sacks, -241 yards

What makes the statistics a little more appropriate in this case is the fact that Yates ran a truly pro style offense, and we're talking classic pro style, vertical passing game, heavy protections, heavy TE use, run and play-action based, etc.

Some more points:

1. One issue that has consistently angered UNC fans is Yates' tendency to go turtle in the face of pressure. He does this to be careful with the ball, not fumble it. He's fumbled 4 times all year, but recovered one on his own, and a teammate recovered another, leaving him with 2 lost fumbles on 76 runs and sacks. That's half the lost fumble rate of Tom Brady in his career with the Patriots.

2. Yates has only gotten one Delay of Game penalty in 2010, in the 3rd Quarter against the LSU Tigers, first game of the year.
 
I have only seen two UNC games this year and they happen to be the LSU and FSU games. So my opinion of Yates may be way too flowery because he played lights out in those games. I definitely wouldn't boo if we drafted him in the 2nd round but the beauty of the situation is that we wouldn't have to use a 2nd round pick. Unless he rockets up the draft boards. ESPN has Yates rated as the 14th best QB while nfl draft countdown and Walter Football don't even have Yates rated in their top 15.

Watch the TD pass that Yates throws at the 2:39 mark in the 1st quarter during the FSU game the link is below. The most impressive part of this throw besides the accuracy on the deep ball is the pocket presence. The heat is coming and he steps up and uses the pocket the way it was intended. He blocks out the distractions and delivers a PERFECT ball.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/video?gameId=303100052

I've been watching highlights on ESPN of all of UNC's games this year and while it gives kind of a skewed impression of Yates because you can't see many of the mistakes he makes you can see the potential he has:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels

I really hope whoever our GM is during the draft sees what we all seem to see.
 
He has been projected to go in the 5th-6th rd. Do you see that changing now that his Senior season is over?
 
The splits are kind of interesting.

His average 3rd & 4th down distance was 3rd & 7.6 yards to go.

When he's had his number called on 3rd or 4th down, he has personally converted the down 43.3% of the time. He is 56.4% (44 of 78) with a distance of 7 yards or less. He's 37.0% with a distance of between 8 and 14 yards to go.

He's 78 of 114 (68.4%) for 857 yards (7.5 YPA, 11.0 YPC), 9 TDs and 5 INTs, with 19 runs for 89 yards, and 8 sacks for -61 yards...on 3rd and 4th downs. That's a 98.5 QB Rating.

On 1st down...he is 102 of 148 (68.9%) for 1463 yards (9.9 YPA, 14.3 YPC), 5 TDs and 1 INT....for a 109.2 QB Rating.

He loooves 1st down. But he's also pretty clutch on 3rd down. There's a pretty big difference between Yates' tendency to get sacked on 1st & 2nd down, versus 3rd down. Add up all his runs, sacks, passes, etc...and you see he gets sacked once every 12.3 times on 1st down and 12.8 times on 2nd down. Not a big difference. But he gets sacked once every 17.6 times on 3rd & 4th downs...a pretty big difference. Statistical evidence of what you already know if you watch him...he's a very situationally aware player.
 
He has been projected to go in the 5th-6th rd. Do you see that changing now that his Senior season is over?

Yes I do. He's not going to be in the Senior Bowl, which means I get to see him up close at Shrine Practices in Orlando. We'll see how he does there but I think generally speaking he's going to do well in an All Star setting. His attention to detail will help him tremendously. The only wildcard would be if he starts to feel like because of the stage and the setting he needs to take more chances and move away from the formula he found to be so successful this year at North Carolina.

I agree with justdev7 though...one of the positives is that even if he does rise significantly from where he's rated right now in the media, the chances of him going to the 2nd round are not high, and so Miami could use their #16 overall pick on a player not at the QB position, they don't have a 2nd round pick, and then they could grab a T.J. Yates down in the 3rd round.
 
CK-

You mentioned a quote from a scout in another thread that went something like "if i don't like a guy as a 3rd rounder then why would i like him in the 5th" The reason I bring that up is it seems we have to keep our ultimate goal in mind when looking at QB's. I don't think you go out and spend a draft pick to bring in a guy that you'll immediately be looking for his replacement. That's generally what happens with all non-elite QB's QB is a binary position - either a guy is a franchise type QB or he's not, if he's not than you are looking for his replacement. With that in mind this draft probably won't yield more than 1 or 2 guys who will end up starting 80 games for 1 NFL team. It's always strange to me to hear guys give QB's 2nd and 3rd round grades. To me either you think this guy can be our franchise QB or you don't.

With other positions there's a long spectrum of potential productivity but with QB it really seems like a binary yes/no. I'm sure the 4th or 5th best LB in this draft (as viewed by production several years later) will provide actual value to the team he's on. I'm sure the 6th best DB in this draft will provide production and will be a decent nickel or dime type player. The 3rd best QB in this draft will probably spend the majority of his career watching the game either from the sideline or a couch. So when analyzing QB's don't you eventually have to just take it down to the 2 or 3 guys you think will have the highest likelihood of being a franchise QB? That's not to say you expect that everyone can come in right away. Maybe the list includes the #1 overall pick, another early 1st rounder and then one other guy that you think will take a few years to develop (and therefore he's a 2nd or 3rd rounder) but you have strong conviction that he WILL develop into a franchise guy. To me, the rest of the players would simply be off the board.
 
As an fsu fan, and someone who has watched Yates plenty, I would be EXTREMELY dissapointed if we drafted him, regardless of the round. The NFL is a quarterbacks league, we havent had one since Marino, which is why we have sucked since then. Sure we had a few decent seasons mixed in but until we get a true stud QB we will never do anything in the playoffs. I'd rather trade my whole draft and get a all star type qb like Luck as opposed to spending a second on pat white and then a second on henne and then a 3rd or whatever on Yates.
 
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