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F150&Dolfan said:
Bills special teams are "better" than that but we are in a division of good SpT units. I would rank Mia/Buf QB's as 3a/3b, but other than those 2 differences, I'm very impressed by your evaluation
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Bills special teams are "better" than that but we are in a division of good SpT units. I would rank Mia/Buf QB's as 3a/3b, but other than those 2 differences, I'm very impressed by your evaluation
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Very good post, and even a better subject to be discussed.:banana:
Jay is our QB like it or not, there will be no way Feeley starts this year, unless an injury, Lets not forget about Sage.
I agree with most of the original post, but keep in mind we dont need Zach and Junior to be at their prime, just play their position, which they do, you cant dismiss there skills, they still have them, and cannot argue the leadership role they bring.
This will be our year guys and gals, I love all this hype in the system and I want people to doubt us, sure we have chaos, but didnt the PATS have the same thing 3 years ago, QB contraversay, questionable coaching changes and mockery of the draft picks....hhhhmmmmm Im seeing a pattern, 4 years ago Bellichick was mocked by all, now hes a genius, please dont get me wrong and think Im saying DW is any of this, but chaos does breed continuity in a strange way and seems to bring teams together (LAKERS). We shall see and please have hope and a prayer.:confused:
Very good post, and even a better subject to be discussed.:banana:
Jay is our QB like it or not, there will be no way Feeley starts this year, unless an injury, Lets not forget about Sage.
I agree with most of the original post, but keep in mind we dont need Zach and Junior to be at their prime, just play their position, which they do, you cant dismiss there skills, they still have them, and cannot argue the leadership role they bring.
This will be our year guys and gals, I love all this hype in the system and I want people to doubt us, sure we have chaos, but didnt the PATS have the same thing 3 years ago, QB contraversay, questionable coaching changes and mockery of the draft picks....hhhhmmmmm Im seeing a pattern, 4 years ago Bellichick was mocked by all, now hes a genius, please dont get me wrong and think Im saying DW is any of this, but chaos does breed continuity in a strange way and seems to bring teams together (LAKERS). We shall see and please have hope and a prayer.:confused:
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Your rankings were great, but here are mine.
QB
NE - Brady is the next Montana people.
NY - I disagree that the Jets are a lot better with Penn since they did well with Vinny last year, but he's still a very good QB.
Buf - No way is Jay better than Drew. He can be a top 5 QB with good protection. Without it, he's slightly worse than Jay. Worst line in the league.
Mia - Jay is simply not a good QB, and Feeley is unproven
RB
Mia - Ricky is still a beast, and with the right line he'll show it again
NE - Dillon will be huge for this team. He's a top 3 back when his heart's in it, and in an open offense he could be deadly.
Buf - Henry is very over-rated, he's just not a good RB with the fumbles and the struggles, but McGahee will be the next Duce Mac given half a chance.
NY - C-Mart gets a rough deal, he is still good, but Jordan's time (if ever) is now.
WR
NE - Good call man, these guys are good. Branch can be a beast, while Givens and Brown give nice depth. Bethel Johnson is a true burner. Possibly rely too heavily on Brady's spider sense like instincts though.
Mia - Chambers and Boston can be the best. Can the Qb get them the ball? Can the O-line give him time to? We'll see. Tolver will be a beast. I have the pleasure of knowing this superb young man.
NY - Santana Moss is awesome, McCareins is very under-rated.
Buf - Moulds is getting over the hill, but Lee Evans will be a beast. If Evans does the job, Moulds might get open. Like the first guy said, them being bottom doesn't make em bad, just not AS good.
TE
Mia - McMichael is the best TE in the division.
NE - Great depth, but no one guy I really like. Watson is physically IT, but he won't be much.
NY - Meh, Becht is ok I guess.
Buf - Meh.
OL
NY - Traditionally has a good O-line that give Pennington plenty of time.
NE - Hugely over-rated, Brady's three step drop means they don't NEED to pass block, run blocking was awful.
Buf - bottom 5 O-line, Mike Williams can be great though.
Mia - Worst O-line in the league last year. Jeno James is a MAN BEAST! Vernon will do the job as well. McIntosh sucks.
DL
NE - Wilfork, Warren, Seymour, Traylor. Yikes. Seymour is the best, Wilfork WILL be the best. Miami will pay for passing on him.
Mia - Best run line in the league (by default since NE play 3 man) and awesome against the pass. I just think NE's helps the linebackers better.
NY - A lot depends on Dewayne...
Buf - Schobel's good, Adam's does a job
LB
Buf - Spikes is one of the most over-rated in the league, but Fletcher and Posey, if anything, are under-rated.
NY - Vilma and Cowart alone make them the 2nd best.
NE - VERY over-rated. Bruschi was nothing without Washington shielding him. All of them are made to look better by their awesome line.
Mia - Thomas = great. Seau = not anymore. Greenwood = no.
DB's
NE - Harrison was the true MVP last year. Law is a playmaker. Wilson is a huge hitter who can struggle agaisnt the pass.
Mia - Madison is nowadays under-rated. Surtain is awesome. Knight is a bit sluggish but makes plays, and this becomes the best if Antuan Edwards is the FS. Poole is going to be awesome.
Buf - Clements is the 2nd best in the league (yup), but Vincent will struggle to replace Winfield. Lawyer Milloy is on the downhill.
NY - Not bad, not great. Corner's are getting better.
Coaching
NE - Awesome
NY - Herm is a passionate man, and I like him.
Buf - not sure
Mia - EEEEEWWWW
TEAM RANKINGS
NE
Mia
NY
Buf
But it's May!!!
QB
NE - Brady is the next Montana people.
NY - I disagree that the Jets are a lot better with Penn since they did well with Vinny last year, but he's still a very good QB.
Buf - No way is Jay better than Drew. He can be a top 5 QB with good protection. Without it, he's slightly worse than Jay. Worst line in the league.
Mia - Jay is simply not a good QB, and Feeley is unproven
RB
Mia - Ricky is still a beast, and with the right line he'll show it again
NE - Dillon will be huge for this team. He's a top 3 back when his heart's in it, and in an open offense he could be deadly.
Buf - Henry is very over-rated, he's just not a good RB with the fumbles and the struggles, but McGahee will be the next Duce Mac given half a chance.
NY - C-Mart gets a rough deal, he is still good, but Jordan's time (if ever) is now.
WR
NE - Good call man, these guys are good. Branch can be a beast, while Givens and Brown give nice depth. Bethel Johnson is a true burner. Possibly rely too heavily on Brady's spider sense like instincts though.
Mia - Chambers and Boston can be the best. Can the Qb get them the ball? Can the O-line give him time to? We'll see. Tolver will be a beast. I have the pleasure of knowing this superb young man.
NY - Santana Moss is awesome, McCareins is very under-rated.
Buf - Moulds is getting over the hill, but Lee Evans will be a beast. If Evans does the job, Moulds might get open. Like the first guy said, them being bottom doesn't make em bad, just not AS good.
TE
Mia - McMichael is the best TE in the division.
NE - Great depth, but no one guy I really like. Watson is physically IT, but he won't be much.
NY - Meh, Becht is ok I guess.
Buf - Meh.
OL
NY - Traditionally has a good O-line that give Pennington plenty of time.
NE - Hugely over-rated, Brady's three step drop means they don't NEED to pass block, run blocking was awful.
Buf - bottom 5 O-line, Mike Williams can be great though.
Mia - Worst O-line in the league last year. Jeno James is a MAN BEAST! Vernon will do the job as well. McIntosh sucks.
DL
NE - Wilfork, Warren, Seymour, Traylor. Yikes. Seymour is the best, Wilfork WILL be the best. Miami will pay for passing on him.
Mia - Best run line in the league (by default since NE play 3 man) and awesome against the pass. I just think NE's helps the linebackers better.
NY - A lot depends on Dewayne...
Buf - Schobel's good, Adam's does a job
LB
Buf - Spikes is one of the most over-rated in the league, but Fletcher and Posey, if anything, are under-rated.
NY - Vilma and Cowart alone make them the 2nd best.
NE - VERY over-rated. Bruschi was nothing without Washington shielding him. All of them are made to look better by their awesome line.
Mia - Thomas = great. Seau = not anymore. Greenwood = no.
DB's
NE - Harrison was the true MVP last year. Law is a playmaker. Wilson is a huge hitter who can struggle agaisnt the pass.
Mia - Madison is nowadays under-rated. Surtain is awesome. Knight is a bit sluggish but makes plays, and this becomes the best if Antuan Edwards is the FS. Poole is going to be awesome.
Buf - Clements is the 2nd best in the league (yup), but Vincent will struggle to replace Winfield. Lawyer Milloy is on the downhill.
NY - Not bad, not great. Corner's are getting better.
Coaching
NE - Awesome
NY - Herm is a passionate man, and I like him.
Buf - not sure
Mia - EEEEEWWWW
TEAM RANKINGS
NE
Mia
NY
Buf
But it's May!!!
F150&Dolfan said:
I think this is the most accurate ranking. The only thing I'd change is that I have Miami at #1 at TE.
I also think/hope that by the end of the year Miami could be #1 at DB and maybe WR.
I was surprised and pleased that you had Bledsoe at the bottom of the division. DB has a strong arm, but he makes more poor decisions than JF. They were both behind poor pass blocking OLs, but DB's lack of mobility leads to more sacks. Overall, DB's poor decisions and mobility result in more negative plays and his arm doesn't provide enough big plays to compensate.
Man, Buffalo just gets no respect. hahaha
I will cut and paste from another board i did this at:
QBs:
1. Brady
2. pennington
3. Feeley/fiedler
4. Bledsoe
I think Chad and Brady are very close but 2 SBs tends to push 1 ahead of the other. Bledsoe has had 1 good half season since 1997.
RBs:
1. Henry
2. Williams
3. Martin/Jordan
4. Dillon
This division has some great backs. I think Henry is very underrated and w/ miami's OL troubles last year Ricky had a bad per carry avg. Dillon could easily skyrocket to #1 but he just goes against everything this team has been about so i am skeptical.
FBs:
1. Sowell
2. Konrad
3. Pass/McCrary
4. Shelton
I'm not up on all my AFCE FBs but Sowell was very good a year ago.
Wrs:
1. NYJ
2. Mia
3. NE
4. Buf
Some good units but the best duo is Moss & McCareins. IF Boston plays hard then they move to #1 but that remains to be seen. NE has solid WRs and Buf has the divisions best WR. IF Wayne can't stay healthy then NYJ move down to #3 or 4.
TE:
1. NE's trio
2. McMichael
3. Becht/Baker
4. Campbell
NE's trio can do it all, RM is a very good pass catching TE. After the top group of Shockey & co. he is next in line.
OL:
1. NE
2. NYJ
3. Buf
4. Mia
NE lost Woody but still should have a very good OL, the Jets OL struggled a bit last year and BUf's and Miami were lousy. Buf & mia look much better on paper.
DL:
1. Mia
2. NE
3. NYJ
4. Buf
Miami hands down, NE is very good and getting Wilfork will help but don't expect too much from him as a rook. The Jets have the talent and now it's time to put it together.
LBs:
1. NE
2. Buf
3. NYJ
4. Mia
NE's Lbs are outstanding playmakers, Buf's Lbs came on strong in the 2nd half and Spikes is big time. The dolphins LBs are getting a bit old and the Jets look much better than a year ago on paper.
DBs:
1. NE
2. Mia
3. Buf
4. NYJ
Mia has the best pair of CBs but NE has the best overall secondary unless of course the Law situation doesn't get worked out.
Is it me or does it seeem like just about every position this division has a ton of talent on most of the teams. There are a few exceptions but for the most part each team has talent to work w/ and after a down year for the division(thanks to Buf & NYJ) I think it will be a top division again.
QBs:
1. Brady
2. pennington
3. Feeley/fiedler
4. Bledsoe
I think Chad and Brady are very close but 2 SBs tends to push 1 ahead of the other. Bledsoe has had 1 good half season since 1997.
RBs:
1. Henry
2. Williams
3. Martin/Jordan
4. Dillon
This division has some great backs. I think Henry is very underrated and w/ miami's OL troubles last year Ricky had a bad per carry avg. Dillon could easily skyrocket to #1 but he just goes against everything this team has been about so i am skeptical.
FBs:
1. Sowell
2. Konrad
3. Pass/McCrary
4. Shelton
I'm not up on all my AFCE FBs but Sowell was very good a year ago.
Wrs:
1. NYJ
2. Mia
3. NE
4. Buf
Some good units but the best duo is Moss & McCareins. IF Boston plays hard then they move to #1 but that remains to be seen. NE has solid WRs and Buf has the divisions best WR. IF Wayne can't stay healthy then NYJ move down to #3 or 4.
TE:
1. NE's trio
2. McMichael
3. Becht/Baker
4. Campbell
NE's trio can do it all, RM is a very good pass catching TE. After the top group of Shockey & co. he is next in line.
OL:
1. NE
2. NYJ
3. Buf
4. Mia
NE lost Woody but still should have a very good OL, the Jets OL struggled a bit last year and BUf's and Miami were lousy. Buf & mia look much better on paper.
DL:
1. Mia
2. NE
3. NYJ
4. Buf
Miami hands down, NE is very good and getting Wilfork will help but don't expect too much from him as a rook. The Jets have the talent and now it's time to put it together.
LBs:
1. NE
2. Buf
3. NYJ
4. Mia
NE's Lbs are outstanding playmakers, Buf's Lbs came on strong in the 2nd half and Spikes is big time. The dolphins LBs are getting a bit old and the Jets look much better than a year ago on paper.
DBs:
1. NE
2. Mia
3. Buf
4. NYJ
Mia has the best pair of CBs but NE has the best overall secondary unless of course the Law situation doesn't get worked out.
Is it me or does it seeem like just about every position this division has a ton of talent on most of the teams. There are a few exceptions but for the most part each team has talent to work w/ and after a down year for the division(thanks to Buf & NYJ) I think it will be a top division again.