Originally posted by Muck
You need to go back and read my original post. In it, I said, "I chose who I'd like to have at the helm and not necessarily who's best." That answers your question right there.
You did imply that I was basing it on one game. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked the question. I'm not trying to sound like a prick.....I just don't feel like we should have to spell everything single thing out for each other. I think that game last November speaks for itself. I don't think the things we saw that day can be denied.
I never alluded to the notion that he isn't or wouldn't be much of a passer. He already makes throws that very few QBs can make. The thing with Vick is that he's having to learn how to harness his unrivaled talent and use it correctly.
As for the Randall Cunningham comparison......your kinda veering off to the right. Your taking an entire season of Cunningham (in his 6th year) and comparing it to one half of football rookie football for Vick. But since you brought up Cunningham, notice that he's a career 56.6% passer. Notice he didn't reach the 60% plateau until his 8th season. Notice that Vick is already far ahead of Cunningham at this point in their careers. He's a more dangerous runner than Cunningham ever was. And he's already ahead of Cunningham as a thinker and a passer.
The sky is the limit for this kid. I think he'll have a breakout season in 2003. And if it were on the Phins, it might be "Super".
Again, I did not imply that you based your opinion on one game, I stated it flat out as did you in your earlier post
"Did you see the game where we faced Vick at Pro Player in 2001?? That's why."
You gave no other reason.
"Unrivaled Talent" at what? running? That is not my definition of a QB.
"Your taking an entire season of Cunningham (in his 6th year) and comparing it to one half of football rookie football for Vick."
Actually, what I was doing in my post was refuting the notion that we had never seen talent like this before. And Vick was not a rookie last year he was in his second year.
"He's a more dangerous runner than Cunningham ever was."
Simply not true, Cunningham in 1990 averaged 8.2 yards per carry and totalled 942 yards, last year Vick averaged 7.6 yards per carry and totalled 776 yards. Define "Dangerous"
"I don't think the things we saw that day can be denied."
I never denied it, in fact I said that he had tremendous skills, exciting potential, and was fun to watch and led the league in highlight plays.
But the fact remains that as a QB in 2002 he performed very inconsistently, inaccurately, and his performance worsened over time.