Remember, Kiko Alonso is getting paid millions of dollars...

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  1. hoops

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    last night in pre game the reporter said that branches contract is 3 years and $58 mil

    I sure as heck hope that was a mistake on her part...
     
  2. BlueUndertow

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    I'm starting to be convinced that Mike Tannenbaum is handing out these way-overpriced contracts on the notion that after he's fired from the Dolphins, he'll be in sports management again. His pitch to signing players will be "look at these great contracts I got Kiko and Branch!"
     
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    Nope the mistake is on Miami’s part of course
     
  4. finmann

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    I will be the first to eat crow on the Maxwell trade, I really thought we had a shut down corner on our team for the first time in a long time.....what a disappointment.
    Now Kiko......I'll say it again and again, he really just sucks, no other way to put it, I wish we could just get rid of this guy...like now.
     
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    How could you think Maxwell was a shutdown corner? He was awful in philly
     
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    I thought a change of scenery was what he needed.
     
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    3/8/2017: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. The deal contains $16.8 million guaranteed -- a $6 million signing bonus and Branch's 2017 and 2018 base salaries. Branch is eligible for annual $100,000 workout bonuses. 2017: $2.9 million, 2018: $7.9 million, 2019: $6.9 million, 2020: Free Agent

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7532/andre-branch
     
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    Kiko's always had tackling problems. He's got good mobility, but he misses plays when he shouldn't. Average LB. If the team has the option to upgrade the position in FA they should, but its not worth wasting a high round draft pick to oust Kiko.
     
  9. Snoop

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    Probably why he was on his 3rd team in his first 4 years. And I'd go LB early if I thought I could trade Kiko, but no one wants to take on that contract.
     
  10. Avigatorx

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    I'm going LBer early regardless. We need to draft a LBer that is a stud in coverage once and for all.
     
  11. Michael Scott

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    Worst starter on a bad team.

    We were complaining about the "help" he had at LB last season. Perhaps he was just as bad as that atrocious group.
     
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    So Channing Crowder syndrome essentially
     
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    Kiko needs to be removed from this roster, stat!

    He can take Cutler with him.
     
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    Kiko Alonso is bad, worst LB in the NFL.
     
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    Wasn’t a big fan of sons of Shula but boy did he nail this one. Kiko is horrendous out there. There are no visible positives in his game. Terrible instincts. Terrible coverage skills. Terrible at the poa. It’s hard to believe we have so much money tied up in him. His contract is a fireable offense.
     
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    This team loves overpaying for average players because they can't identify young talent during the draft process. For a team that has spent almost up to the cap ceiling they don't have much high end talent to show for it. The Dolphins have to be one of the highest paid least talented teams in the league.
     
  17. hoops

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    Kiko carries a minus grade for the year currently. Minus grades for mike hull also. Average grade for Timmons and Allen.

    Allen’s lack of instincts at mike yesterday resulted in a play speed that lacked range

    Average grade with Allen is at strong side

    No plus grade lb for the year to date
     
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    Only other minus grades on the d Andre Branch Michael Thomas and Bobby McCain

    Tanks technique is still very much a work in progress.

    TJ McDonald and Reshad Jones average same for Nate Allen prior to injury
     
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    Only plus grades on o to date the 3 WRs...

    Although I’ve been pretty happy with Davis right tackle work to date. It’s still early to crown it. Athlete looks damn good
     
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    McCain has a minus grade every game, the Fins should of drafted Budda Baker for their FS and Slot needs, he just had the Highest grade for the season for any NFL player;
    S Budda Baker, Arizona Cardinals, 99.7 overall grade

     
  21. Jay131866

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    The only thing Kiko was doing well last year was creating turnovers and big plays. That part of his game has completely disappeared this season. It's disappeared from the Dolphins as a whole. It feels like we never create a turnover anymore.
     
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  22. hoops

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    They moved Kiko from mike which took away the impact of his instincts on tbe ball which is exactly what I was worried about

    Wanted more poa and fill there but put him at weak where his carry coverage shows up in a negative way... allows too much air space

    Doesn’t help that he has to read run and react to pass all the time first though. That hesitation results in being stacked

    Lb unit as a whole forces Miami to play a ton of zone there little to no carry coverage which allows for easy conversions at the lb level in the pass game and no high level range at safety to offset

    Should have made Kiko play a year at the first round tender prior to any extension to see how he fared at weak.

    As of now he’s a candidate for release after the 2018 season along with branch
     
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    Kiko is weak and undersized. He's all finesse and couldn't cover an elderly woman on a pass route.
     
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    This alone is good enough reason to fire T-bomb, and there are a plethora of other reasons as well.
     
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    T_Bum screwed the Jets with his drafting and outrageous contracts. Now he is doing the same here.
    Ross doesn't have a clue as an owner. Mores the pity.
     
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    With Allen, it seems like he’s adjusting to the speed of the game. He’s got some tools to work with.
     
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    Yea, between watching Jaylon Smith play along with Kiko, both my teams have poor LB play now.

    At least Smith has an excuse with his leg.
     
  28. Michael Scott

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    The way I see it is we only have one starting linebacker on the current roster going forward (McMillan). And he's never played a down of NFL football.

    Touching back on the opposite of what someone else said.... LB is absolutely a high enough priority to spend a high draft pick on if BPA.
     
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    It’s scary what the Pats will have cooked up in the passing game with backs and TE’s to exploit the Dolphins’ linebackers in coverage. This is already in the Pats’ wheelhouse but their eyes have to be as big as saucers looking at tape of Miami’s linebackers in coverage.

    If I know this, surely the bearded one knows this. I hope Burke has something ready to counter this. It can’t just be “Kiko needs to be better in coverage.” Put the guys in a position to succeed.

    Crowder talks about how much he liked Mike Nolan as our DC. Channing proudly points out if if he didn’t think he could get something done, he’d speak up and Nolan appreciated it.

    It’s amazing in 2017 how many coaches can’t figure this out, as you see players put in obviously impossible situations for their skill level. It’s like the coordinators want to play chess but forget about what the pieces can do.

    Call it a litmus test if you will, but if I see the Pats TEs or rbs collectively putting a beat down on the Dolphins’ linebackers in coverage, I will lose confidence and respect for the DC. This absolutely cannot be allowed to happen.
     
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    This is my Christmas wish
     
  31. AEGBRG

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    Bump....because, well, Kiko is the gift that keeps on giving. As long as this organization continues to trot out these players who do not belong near a football field, nothing will ever change.
     
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    It’s borderline impossible to have a decent defense with him on the field. Laughable to see him try and lower his shoulder and end up bouncing off other players.
     
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    At this point I'm hoping for a non-life threatening career ending injury. If nothing else can get him off the field for good, then I'm down for whatever. He's that terrible.

    I don't know why QBs don't just look his way on every down. Guaranteed completion and YAC. Awful piece of **** player.

    Hate him with a passion. Haven't hated a Dolphins player this much in life.
     
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    The Dolphin need to treat the LB unit as well as the whole team the way the other teams are and jettison non-fitting/sucking/bad players despite what ever cap hell it cost.

    One year of cap hell and then the next year reap the rewards.
     
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    Shes god aweful
     
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    Wake is done as a starter as well. Extremely inconsistent. Should be a situational pass rusher and nothing more next season.
     
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    I’m finally done w Kiko. He’s had too many games like this one this year. Cut him.
     
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    I'm willing to cut him and just take the dead cap. He has zero value as a football player. Contributes absolutely nothing on a consistent basis. By far the worst starting player I've ever seen at any position. He's awful.
     
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    Completely agree but I actually think when he wants to play he can. He got the money and quit.
     
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    I think Kiko is better suited for mlb. He’s been awful this year but I still like him as a player.
     

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