Ryan Swope: At 42/54 Overall?

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  1. CRIOS

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    If Ryan Swope was, by chance, available at the 42 overall pick, would you (1) select him right there and then, or (2) take a gamble and wait (hope) that he is still available at the 54 overall selection?

    Without a bit of hesitation, I would select him at 42.

    But I really do not think he'll be there at 42 - he will be gone IMO prior to 42. What do think: Will you get him at 42 or wait for him at 54?
     
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    If they think he is our guy then I would hope they take him at 42 why gamble and more then likely miss out on him.
     
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    I recall that it was said, NFL Network I think, that he caught nearly all the passes thrown to him at the combine. Then I saw a video of him catching eggs dropped from second story building. The guy runs fast too. If available at 42, we'll be IMO stupid not to select him and reunite him with Tannehil.
     
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    I would take him at 54. I wouldn't object to taking him earlier, but he is a slot receiver so he isn't an every down player. There are options. We can be fairly certain that Swope will go after these WR's: Patterson, Hunter, Allen, Austin, and it's a decent guess that he'll be drafted also after Williams, Woods, Patton and Hopkins. That's a lot of WR's. I doubt he makes it out of round 2, but he might. I think he will be there at 54, but that's about where he'll be. The bottom of each round is likely where he will be drafted as those are the teams interested in a guy like swope. Unless one of them trades up, I think we can get him at 54.
     
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    I would figure that since he played at Texas A&M with Tanni, that that would make it an easier choice for Ireland to land him at 42.
     
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    Not taking him at 42. Can justify 54, but I'd prefer to - see sig - wait and grab Boyce. Would still be happy with him 54 though - just not my absolute favorite option.
     
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    Don't mess around. Take him at #42.
     
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    IF there were no concussion issues, I could justify taking him at 42. As it is, 54 is better.

    Either way, yes or no on Swope, Miami DEFINITELY should pick up Boyce. I agree totally! Great pick up and a good addition to this team.

    LD
    p.s. with the Swope concussion stuff, I'd be willing to pick Boyce at 54 instead. It might sound way too high, but not if he will be what I think he is: Bess with a true high gear and a slot player that can not only move the chains, but also take any given play to the house, and own the seams down the field. I REALLY like this guy. A faster Bess and more durable Swope...
     
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    Is it more likely that Boyce will be gone at 42 though. If he's there then yes...but he will selected before the 42 overall selection I think (gut).
     
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    Would you be willing to pick Boyce at 42?

    LD
    note: If he's gone before 42 then NE prolly snagged him...
     
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    Yes. No doubt at 42.
     
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    Well, if he is what I think he is, Miami would be glad for years to come, picking him up in the 2nd... so I agree w. you -- maybe overdrafting a bit but getting a guaranteed playmaker.

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    If he is available then pull the trigger...no doubt about it. I am just worried that Swope could be gone somewhere between 42 and 54 that's all. We need Swope in our offence guys. Both those guys in aqua and orange by the end of the second round would be pretty awesome I think.
     
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    Is he reach in the 2nd yes but hes a reach that has the most potential im scared he wont last until our 2nd pick in the 2nd round
     
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    Look at how much Bess plays. I think he is an every down WR (correct me if I am wrong), but he is getting on, and Swope would be a great replacement. At 42.....maybe, just depends on which WR's are gone, but at 54, yes.
     
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    At 54 yea or id trade up 3a to tbe top of the third round.
     
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    I've heard teams are weary of his medical report. He will not be a second round pick. Besides , Stedman Bailey is the guy.
     
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    Love Swope, and i'm sure the Dolphins brass loves him too. Tannehill especially. But his history of concussions is very troublesome.
     
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    I think both Swope and Boyce are pretty unique players in that they're built to excel from the Slot, but they have a pretty solid game outside the hashes too. What makes them special, though, is their combination of strength/speed/quickness. Both guys are over 200 and strong; both guys were sub-4.4 at the combine; and both guys are quick. Oh, and both seem like A+ character guys. Boyce broke his foot at some point during or before the combine (well, his pinkie toe), but I don't think that will effect his draft stock too much. Other than the fact he's white, there's a pretty good reason that Swope gets compared to Welker a lot - he should be able to do what Welker does. He's bigger and faster, but the combination of quickness, toughness, and intelligence it takes to work the middle of the field, Swope projects to have it, and Boyce does too. For good measure, each has the speed to take a short route to the house. If I thought I had to grab one in the 2nd, I would.

    ---------- Post added at 09:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:20 AM ----------

    This is the first time I've seen it suggested that Boyce goes before Swope, and it's the first time I've seen it suggested that Boyce is gone at 42. I wouldn't be shocked.
     
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    I'd have no problem taking him in the second round at all. We need more speed in the slot. Davone Bess is probably the slowest starting wide receiver in the NFL.
     
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    Huge swope fan, but you can't ignore 4 reported concussions in college, thats just that we know about, and that's without counting high school. Would still draft him but not at 42 or 54.

    Even without the concussions that's pretty high for him in all honesty.
     
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    Seems like there is soooo much depth in this draft at WR that will be around at 54.. Swope, Wheaton, Hopkins, Woods, Bailey... Difficult question for me: Bailey or Swope at 54?.
     
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    Love Swope....my kind of tough, gritty player who clicked with Tannehill tremendously during his time at A&M. However, #42 is just a bit high for him.
     
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    Its funny how people get on Bess!!! Bess is a top five slot guy in the NFL PERIOD!!!! If Bess was on the Pats, Packers or any-other team with a elite QB he would be in the pro bowl every year.. You for get because of our lack of receiving talent we have had to use him out of position a lot.. Bess is proven, has amazing hands and run crazy routes.. Now that being said I would still take Swope in the second.. But that has nothing to do with Bess..
     
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    To my point its not all about speed..
     
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    His 4 concussions in college scare me.
     
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    Definitely. And I think that will hurt his draft stock a lot.
     
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    It may hurt a lot but I could still see a handful of teams willing to grab him high.

    These old school coaches really don't seem to give a damn about a concussion.
     
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    The only teams I worry about are New England and Green Bay in round two. New England only has 3 picks in first 3 rounds. If Vollmer not signed, you gotta wonder if they pass on Swope with all these WR's. Plus I think they like Robert Woods. Green Bay however, knows us like a glove. Do they need him late in 2nd? Prob not. They wait too because of concussions.

    I also would like to know the severity of those concussions. somebody get Tannehill on QAM.
     
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    Id rather draft Markus Wheat at #42
     
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    Swope at 42 would be tolerable only if we miss on Patterson at 12, imo.
     
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    If there's one guy I want out of this draft is Ryan Swope. Hopefully we get it done.
     
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    Now I'm scared the Patriots will target him after losing Welker.
     
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    I have a feeling we'll have to take him in the second if we want him.
     
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    Ryan Swope all the way, we need a future #3 and this is him. Bess is a good slot but he is done in Miami after this year
     
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    What NFL receiver does Swope remind everyone of? I haven't watched any film on him.
     
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    Swope at 42 would be great
     
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    He is definately worth a pick. It really depends on if there is a run of wrs. There are a lot of really good ones.
     
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    I can't say that I agree with Bess being a top 5 slot receiver. Here are my top 5 slot guys, and I can't really see anyone selecting Bess over them, but reasonable minds may disagree. My top 5 slot guys, in no particular order, are: Greg Jennings, Percy Harvin, Victor Cruz, Randall Cobb, Wes Welker.
     

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