Salguero: Parcells says Ireland in charge of 09, 11, 12 drafts...

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  1. SkapePhin

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    Salguero mentioned this on the WQAM pregame show with Channing Crowder. Mando says Parcells told him personally than Parcells headed the 08 draft and handed the reigns to Ireland in 09. But Parcells didn't like that draft, so he took over again in 2010. Obviously Iteland was in charge of 2011 and 2012. Not sure how accurate this is considering the source, but worth noting.
     
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    Both of them did a garbage job overall.
     
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    who cares they are both responsible and Ireland was the damn GM
     
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    The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. They both like the same kind of players if you ask me.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  5. anson

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    I don't trust Parcells because he also said he was responsible for Pat White. So he obviously had his hand in those drafts. He is a B.S artist and crappy personal man.
     
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    Parcells said the Pat White pick was his own, so now he is reneging on that and throwing Ireland under the bus. I am no Ireland fan, but Parcells is a piece of garbage.
     
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    i have a feeling parcells is full of ****..... Hes throwing Ireland under the bus to not tarnish his rep. Either way they both sucked
     
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    Im sure they liked many of the same players. I always blamed Parcells and Ireland for the White pick as they should be blamed
     
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    They both suck.
     
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    They announced this years ago. No new information.

    People didnt believe it then because they didnt want to. That response hasnt changed.
     
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    isn't this on the back of an earlier report that Bill was responsible for 08, claimed ireland ****ed up the 09 draft, despite the fact that parcel's took credit for the pat white pick, then because of that **** up he took over the 2010 draft. Jesus why the **** do any of you put any interest in who did what and when when it comes to "parcell's said". ****er is ****ing goddamn lying emomaniac that is ONLY interested in preserving his legend that was built upon 2 LUCKY superbowl wins, both of which relied heavily upon the greatest ****ing freak to ever play the linebacker position and the other relied upon a ****ing choke job. **** parcells I don't give a good goddamn about him, his drafts, or anything he says. Let him and his wrinkly balls go do some goddamn grocery shopping at a VD health clinic.
     
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    I dont think Parcells is throwing Ireland under the bus. I think its more likely that Armando is full of ****. He has been saying Parcells is only responsible for 2008 and 2010 for years
     
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    Ireland and Parcells have throw theirselves under the bus for the crappy job done in Miami
     
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    They both were garbage, anyone defending either is clueless.
     
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    Can we really blame Jeffy all he did was run coffee and fetch lunch?
     
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    I think Jeff Ireland deserves most of the blame but I will never blame him for Pat White. The stories that leaked about Parcells drawing up Wildcat plays at ESPN on napkins to show Tom Jackson and the other guys on the set, followed by his decision to bring in David Lee before he even hired a head coach tells me everything I need to know about that pick.
     
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    I have no doubt that Parcells and Ireland were both Pat white fans
     
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    the dolphins will never win a superbowl under jeff ireland. period.
     
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    One thing for sure parcells would've never drafted Tannehill with the way he picks/drafts qbs they all have to be seniors that's why he took henne
     
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    Fire them both...oh wait
     
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    Mr Ireland's ***… meet underside of bus.
     
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    Parcells is a total idiot. He would throw anyone under the bus to save face. He's a puke.
     
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    What's that?

    The sound of a mercenary trading on nothing but his name
    protecting himself?

    Child, please.

    I have no doubt that Parcells told him that.
     
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    Bill Parcells is a rancid scumbag.
     
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    the man currently resides at Saratoga Downs gambling away Huizenga and Ross's money. Thats all you need to know. He could care less about the dolphins except he got big money for basically sitting on a golf cart in the end zone.
     
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    This only reaffirms that Bill Parcells had this front office in shambles. What a myth this guy is - up there with the lochness monster and big foot.
     
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    He's a ******** egomanic. I think this confirms it.

    It's fitting he confided in Armando. He's garbage, but he can
    at least write complete thought and make it sound like it was
    written by a man with a college education, unlike Omar Kelly.
     
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    Parcells is blessed that Favre went to the Jets and Pennington landed in his lap.
     
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    Nice job Bill. Best post Ive read in weeks. Couldnt have said it better myself.

    :lol: The guy takes Jake Wrong over Matty Ice and still tries to pretend he is a great franchise builder. :lol: Thats rich.

    He claims 08 and 2010, but somehow 09 wasnt him. He knows the Pat White pick was him. Whats funny is as horrible as that pick was, it was a 2nd rounder and its not like we passed on a great QB in the process of taking White. Jake Wrong was a much bigger blunder. Hell, he is about as valuable as Pat White these days. Throw in the kickers of how much money Long was paid with the fact Matt Ryan was right there for the taking and the Jake Wrong pick was a thousand times bigger of a blunder.

    And he had a problem with the way someone else drafted..... :lol: Thats like Tony Sparano having issues with how someone manages a game as a HC. Thats like Shaq saying LeBron needs to work on his free throw form.

    Speaking of Tony Sparano..... Bill Parcells thought Tony Sparano was an excellent choice for HC of an NFL team. :lol:

    You simply cant make worse decisions as head of an organization than Bill Parcells.

    Parcells is a moron. I loathe Parcells like no other.
     
  30. dlockz

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    He also liked Irleand for GM so that speaks volumes also
     
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    LOL

    This moron wanted Long over an elite franchise QB...

    Jeff sucks but come on now...Parcells ****ed that pick up.
     
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    It was the right call at the time.
     
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    It never is the right call.

    Franchise QB tops everything in the NFL.

    I'm still pissed off about it...Partly due to the fact that I was at BC and saw Matt Ryan from the front row at the 40 yard line each home game...Knew then he would be a stud in the league. :(

    Also, check the trajectory of the Falcons vs the Dolphins...They make the playoffs...We define mediocrity.

    Too many people on this site are content with mediocrity.
     
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    Yeah, and you like to bore all of Finheaven with this BS statement about 1000 times a year. You actually think fans are content with losing football? :bobdole:
     
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    Parcells is one of the most overrated blowhards in NFL History. What a total joke the guy is.
     
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    I loved the comment that Parcells' two Super Bowl wins were lucky. Seriously, nobody bothered to challenge that? Beyond pathetic. It's a priceless butchering of history. We hate Parcells so we are determined to rewrite his career.

    The NFC was full of land mines in that era. Stacked franchises, pre salary cap. You had to be a monster team to merely get to the conference championship game, let alone win two more games. The Giants admirably climbed the ladder, winning a wild card game in both 1984 and 1985 before losing soundly on the road against two of the awesome teams in NFL history, the 1984 49ers and 1985 Bears. But they had battled defensively in those two losses, and by 1986 it was their turn. New York embarrassed the 49ers 49-3 in the divisional playoffs, the worst loss of Montana and Walsh's career. They shut out Joe Gibbs when he was in the prime of his first stint with the Redskins, 17-0. Then the Giants overcame an inspired first half by Elway to rout the Broncos in the second half, for a 39-20 final.

    So that's a playoff tally of 105-23, no game closer than 17 points.

    Yep, looks lucky to me. That's the way I remember it, as I cashed those tickets.

    BTW, Caesar's Palace had a monumental screw up on the eve of that 1986 Giants/Redskins game. Somehow they goofed and put the money line in the box where the -110 juice should have been in the computer. The spread was supposed to be -7.5 with -110 juice on both sides, like any normal game. But at Caesar's Palace for a few hours it was Giants -7.5 -340 and Redskins +7.5 +280. They were giving you the money line (straight up) price of +280 on the Redskins, along with the +7.5 points. One guy discovered it and mentioned it to us. Naturally, we loaded up on the Redskins +7.5 +280 and then scalped the heck out of it. There were some joints at -7 flat so we were taking +7.5 +280 and giving -7 -110. Caesar's finally figured it out but they were stuck. I don't know what they would have done if the Redskins covered but they ended up raking in all the cash because all that extra money on the Redskins went down the toilet. That's just one of hundreds of gaffes I've seen at Nevada sportsbooks so it's always a treat when posters on this site or elsewhere want to pretend the sportsbooks have inside info, or some type of magical knowledge. They have power ratings and most of the time they put the related numbers on the board without botching it.

    I was paying attention in 1986 to the point I remember the details 26 years later. It didn't occur to me I should be looking for reasons to declare Parcells lucky. Oh yeah, Jerry Rice dropped a long touchdown in the opening minutes of the playoff opener. Make that 49-10.

    In 1990 the Giants were so extraordinarily fortunate they lost their starting quarterback late in the regular season. Had to travel to the 2-time defending champion 49ers in the NFC title game. After shutting down that great offense and winning via a late gutsy drive and field goal, the Giants were 7.5 point underdogs in the Super Bowl. Instead of getting into the intended shoot out with their backup quarterback, the Giants somehow fluked more than 40 minutes of possession against the Bills. One lucky first down run after another by Ottis Anderson.

    There were betting odds on the last second field goal, BTW. Not odds on the board but sharp guys were dealing it among themselves, just like always. It was less than 50/50. Given the situation it had to be less than 50/50. I remember wanting to bet the No but I couldn't get the price I wanted. But nowadays I guess we're supposed to backfit and believe that kick was a cinch.

    If those two seasons and teams were identical other than Dolphins as champs and not the Giants, we would herald them as legendary. Instead, they're lucky. :lol:
     
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    He should get credit for what he did with the Giants, the job he and Belicheck did with the Giants was quite amazing , his dolphin tenure along with some of his others not so much
     
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    So here's what we know Through all the stories that have been leaked.

    1.The 2008 draft was Bill Parcells, but initially he favored Chris Long over Jake Long but Ireland favored Jake. Parcells gave Ireland a deadline to sign Jake before the draft and if it didn't happen he was drafting Chris.

    2.In the 2008 draft Parcells and then-OL coach were in love with the potential of Utah State OG Shawn Murphy and traded up in the 4th to get him. The RG position in 08 was in constant flux after Donald Thomas got hurt week 1, and Murphy (despite being there the entire training camp) was passed on the depth chart by guards picked off the street. He was then cut in 2009.

    3.Ireland was in charge for the 2009 draft but Parcells wanted Pat White.

    4.During the 2009 draft, Ireland worked out a trade with Jacksonville; a conditional 7th round pick for Tony McDaniel. Parcells was upset that Ireland traded a pick and told him he had to get another pick via trade.

    5. Parcells took over during the 2010 draft, but Ireland made the Marshall trade. During the first round we had a future All-Pro, and a huge need, in Earl Thomas staring us in the face, but Parcells takes a fairly light trade from San Diego (2nd, swapping 4ths, and Tim Dobbins) to move back in the draft. We end up with a solid but nothing special Jared Odrick and Koa Misi.

    6. In a deep TE draft, Parcells doesn't draft a TE despite us not having one after Fasano.

    7.Ireland was in charge during 2011 draft. Honestly, outside of Clyde Gates (who most liked at the time) it wasn't a terrible draft. Probably gave up a little too much to get Daniel Thomas and we learnt that Jimmy Wilson can't cover but can blitz.

    8. 2012 draft we waited too long to draft a WR. Egnew hasn't done anything either, but not gonna give up on him yet.
     
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    this just makes you look even worse, Bill. Just go away. This game has passed you by.
     

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