the official bowl season draft prospect discussion thread... | Page 8 | FinHeaven - Miami Dolphins Forums

the official bowl season draft prospect discussion thread...

WelcomeBack said:
Tavon Austin please declare. Tavon Austin be a Dolphin.
Click to expand...

:lol: He did look great playing in that stadium, but everything being equal - I'd love to see him come back for one more year!

Let's GOOOOOOO...

MOUNTAINEERS!!!!!
 
ckparrothead said:
If Tavon Austin declares, he can play for me. Best player on the field tonight.

I see a lot of people down on Brandon Thompson, just like I saw a lot of people down on Quinton Coples. But listen, when your team around you are bad, and you're a defensive lineman, there's only so much you can do. You do your job, you mind your gaps, you penetrate and you rock people with your strengths, you take care of the ball carrier when he comes shooting for your gap...but I'm not sure what else you're supposed to do when the rest of your teammates aren't doing that. Andre Branch is severely overrated, the rest of the DLs and LBs are playing with almost zero gap control, and many of them are trying to do other players' jobs.

Bruce Irvin continues to be a conundrum to me, like Dontay Moch. I don't know what to do with this guy. He's such a bad run defender his own COLLEGE team has made him a part time player. And you can see why as he blows his gap on that Andre Ellington long TD run at the beginning of the game. Is he a 3-4 OLB? I don't think so. We're talking maybe an Antwan Barnes type situational guy, except he's really only got one move and then a lot of mobility to run around and chase the ball.

Tavon Austin is the real deal. Don't think he's coming out but man is he good. And Sammy Watkins already is very good but will be massively better in coming years.

There are some offensive linemen on that West Virginia team that I'm going to have to look at. Some of them have been playing extremely well. Redshirt freshman Quinton Spain...he's only rotating in and out but he's got a future, I'm telling ya. I'm going to have to get some tape and watch Don Barclay.
Click to expand...


You make a great point about defensive lineman. Just because you're not racking up sack numbers doesn't mean you're not doing your job.... which is what a defensive lineman is supposed to do.

I look back at the Georgia Tech game for Coples where I thought he received some undeserved criticism. GT cut blocks like there's no tomorrow and it frustrated Coples. It frustrates every defensive lineman. Nobody likes to be cut blocked on every play. Coples still did his job despite the cut blocks, and battled every play.

Dealing with cut blocks is an even bigger adjustment for kids at the college level because you can't cut block outside the tackle box in high school football.

Alameda Ta'amu did his job on every single play against Baylor, but Briles offense and gameplan didn't allow Ta'amu to have much an effect on the game. Ganaway would've have several more big runs on the dive than he did if not for Ta'amu beating the double team blocks. The biggest runs occured when the C-gap was exploited due to pinning the DE inside and the LB blowing his responsibility on the exchange.
 
hooshoops said:
jeesh i finally caught up with the live feed on the dvr...i never saw this one coming...if i'm tavon austin i'm comin out cause i can't imagine this kid putting together a better game tape than he did today...no matter when he comes out though he'll be knocked for his size and i don't think anyone is gonna look at him as a route running wr at the next level...i think he's gonna be labeled a returner which he looks dynamite at to me and a package specific player...

that said i think best case he goes 4th round...
Click to expand...


Tavon Austin is a pretty dynamic playmaker with elite agility and speed. Obviously he's only going to be a return specialist and slot receiver in the NFL, but there's room on every roster for kids like this. You can tell he's a former high school running back because of the pad level and balance he runs with when the ball is in his hands on jet sweeps and rocket plays.

He reminds me of Jermaine Lewis when he was a pro-bowler for the Baltimore Ravens in the late 90's.... except Lewis may have been even smaller.

Tavon Austin's talent caught my eye last year when he was a sophomore, and made note of him back in July in my underrated underclassman thread. He'll probably go in the 95-125 range overall (late 3rd/early 4th round) if he were to come out.

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/sho...including-draft-eligible-underclassmen)/page2
 
TedSlimmJr said:
Tavon Austin is a pretty dynamic playmaker with elite agility and speed. Obviously he's only going to be a return specialist and slot receiver in the NFL, but there's room on every roster for kids like this. You can tell he's a former high school running back because of the pad level and balance he runs with when the ball is in his hands on jet sweeps and rocket plays.

He reminds me of Jermaine Lewis when he was a pro-bowler for the Baltimore Ravens in the late 90's.... except Lewis may have been even smaller.

Tavon Austin's talent caught my eye last year when he was a sophomore, and made note of him back in July in my underrated underclassman thread. He'll probably go in the 95-125 range overall (late 3rd/early 4th round) if he were to come out.

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?300765-Slimm-s-2012-Underrated-Junior-Prospects-(including-draft-eligible-underclassmen)/page2
Click to expand...

I would take Austin in the 3rd/4th any day. He's lightning quick and that would be something any team would love to have. Utilizing his talents would be amazing with the right head coach.
 
All I know is Joe Adams would be in a Dolphin uniform come April if it was up to me.
 
TedSlimmJr said:
All I know is Joe Adams would be in a Dolphin uniform come April if it was up to me.
Click to expand...

I love Adams. Absolute lighting in a bottle. Change of direction is incredible. Makes guys wiff when they are 12 inches in front of him. I see 3/4 returns a year from him without a doubt.
 
count me as a fan of tyler wilson...some definite talent there...i thought he missed a few things with bad ball placement one of which the deep outside back inside post route to adams if he throws that ball out in front of adams at an angle to middle the of the field that's 6 points the safety willnever get a hand on it instead its too far outside allowing the safety to recover and make a play...and i didn't like the miss in the tight red off pa where he had an easy 6 and threw the ball too high making the guy have to leap for the ball and come down out of bounds...you got to stick that easy throw...but then on the very next play he threw a stick throw over a zone drop lb arthur brown moving laterally reading wilsons eyes with textbook like form just over browns outstretched arms for 6...

wilson also manipulates the defense with his eyes and head...can't count how many times he was looking one way for a click and then came back to the other side...he's not a one read qb...saw some nfl throws also i know that...some nice looking stuff...if he came out i'd be looking hard at him with my 2nd round pick i know that if he got there...

speaking of arthur brown count me as a fan...that guys very fluid can open his hips nicely...has pretty much textbook laterally agility and knee bend...only thing with him is his height...looks a little short...he's an impact run defender with shoot the gap instincts and great in pursuit...i'm callin it right now he's gonna look great in cod and open the hips lb drills at the combine...if i was a 43 defense i'd be on that kid...looks like a potential steal to me...i'm not concerned about him getting beat on that 50 yard td...no way that guy should be covering that fast a wr that far down the field anyways...arkansas caught k state in a bad d and took advantage...

not a win wr on that field for k state...that qb was gonna have to win it all by himself cause the wrs couldn't do anything unless it was zone...which when arkansas went to they did k state a favor
 
hooshoops said:
count me as a fan of tyler wilson...some definite talent there...i thought he missed a few things with bad ball placement one of which the deep outside back inside post route to adams if he throws that ball out in front of adams at an angle to middle the of the field that's 6 points the safety willnever get a hand on it instead its too far outside allowing the safety to recover and make a play...and i didn't like the miss in the tight red off pa where he had an easy 6 and threw the ball too high making the guy have to leap for the ball and come down out of bounds...you got to stick that easy throw...but then on the very next play he threw a stick throw over a zone drop lb arthur brown moving laterally reading wilsons eyes with textbook like form just over browns outstretched arms for 6...

wilson also manipulates the defense with his eyes and head...can't count how many times he was looking one way for a click and then came back to the other side...he's not a one read qb...saw some nfl throws also i know that...some nice looking stuff...if he came out i'd be looking hard at him with my 2nd round pick i know that if he got there...

speaking of arthur brown count me as a fan...that guys very fluid can open his hips nicely...has pretty much textbook laterally agility and knee bend...only thing with him is his height...looks a little short...he's an impact run defender with shoot the gap instincts and great in pursuit...i'm callin it right now he's gonna look great in cod and open the hips lb drills at the combine...if i was a 43 defense i'd be on that kid...looks like a potential steal to me...i'm not concerned about him getting beat on that 50 yard td...no way that guy should be covering that fast a wr that far down the field anyways...arkansas caught k state in a bad d and took advantage...

not a win wr on that field for k state...that qb was gonna have to win it all by himself cause the wrs couldn't do anything unless it was zone...which when arkansas went to they did k state a favor
Click to expand...

Wilson looked good in the game for the most part. He still made some WTF throws. In the first half that PA-roll-out-backside-throwing to the opposite side of the field-play that Petrino loves to call should have been a pick 6 for K State. Yikes I wonder what he saw there to make him decide to throw that football. But then he comes back and hits that deep throw on his first TD for a thing of beauty. I like his feet. To me he seemed to run exactly when he needed to, and he's just fast enough to make defenses have to worry about it.

What do we know about his head? Does he have the intangibles we're looking for? Assuming he's not a headcase and is a good team leader then I'd be all over the kid with our 2nd round pick.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom