dlockz
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plus u cover you bases no guarantee that Tannehill will be a franchise qb. I think he will be
Who would you have taken with same picks?
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plus u cover you bases no guarantee that Tannehill will be a franchise qb. I think he will be
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There would be no convincing you that your picks are not as good as the actual Dolphins' selections. We can determine it once the games are played.
I thought I gave MY take and not someone else's on this thread and the thousands of other posts I have here...with that said here is MY take...
* Taylor is a better pick than Kelce because he plays a more important position.
* Taylor is a fit within Miami's system
* I would have thought Taylor would have gone earlier so I think it is a value pick. I had him mocked to Atlanta for example.
* Sims is a better inline blocker than Kelce. For as big as Kelce is, his blocking leaves a lot to be desired. Sims is an athletic big man that could provide matchup issues. Kelce has a chance to be a nice player (he will create match up issues too). It is not that I think Kelce stinks, but getting Sims in the 4th vs. taking Kelce at 54 is a no brainer.
* In terms of your mock, you got some nice players. However, for someone that ripped the current CB group all offseason, you did little to address that spot in the draft. Between Taylor, Davis (did not like this pick) and Don Jones the team made a bid to improve the situation. Jordan Poyer is not a solution.
dlockz
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Why wouldnt Jordan Poyer be a solution, is there any evidence that Taylor will be a better solution than Poyer outside of he was drafted higher.
I think even if Atlanta had stayed put they would have still took Banks over Taylor.
Not trying to start a fight because too many seem to get offended when you actually have debate in your convo.
Also would you have taken Sims over Kelce if they were both available. Personally i wouldnt.
Another thing is the more I look at draft it made no sense to trade up for Will Davis he just doesnt seem that special a placer and there was still some good corners left.
I can sort of understand CK thinking on corner because to me once Banks was gone I did not see a year one starter left. I still would have drafted two corners if I missed on Banks in my mock
Had Taylor ahead of Banks well before the draft. I'd take Amerson over Banks.
dlockz
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Im not sure Amerson is an NFL cb. I would have drafted Taylor probably if Banks was gone dont see Taylor as better than him in any way.
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Again I don't see the need for getting testy about this. I'm telling you that I respect your opinion and if you disagree you disagree. I'm telling you to go ahead and state your own opinion and not "this guy was rated here" or "most grades I saw had this guy here".
You should know by now that kind of thing means less than nothing to me.
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To me Jordan Poyer is a system fit from a specialist standpoint. He's a lot like Johnthan Banks that way. Neither is fast and they're both liabilities when you put them in situations where they have to run with receivers a long distance. They're both going to have to open their hips early against speed. But they both can intercept the football and both to me are good technicians. I think Poyer's attitude gets him into trouble. But Chip Kelly had a lot of respect for Poyer at Oregon State and he thinks he can coax better effort out of him. I'd take that chance late.
Once certain guys were off the board, Poyer stood out to me as being available. I'd have targeted B.W. Webb and Kayvon Webster before Poyer but Kayvon came off too quick and Webb came off just before I wanted him.
I believe in value picking. I believe need picking is a necessary evil at times but you have to mostly stick to value. So if you're going to criticize me that I entered a draft with needs at corner, defensive end, tackle, tight end, tailback, wide receiver, safety, defensive tackle and kicker, and that I didn't come out of this draft having properly addressed one or two of those positions, I'm going to turn that right back on you and criticize you for thinking I even should be able to address all that in one draft.
dlockz
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I think both players are plenty fast to play cb but Banks ran in shorts almost like Pat Surtain who turned out pretty good.
Banks always seems to open hips early but I dont remember him getting beat deep all that much.
I think he is faster than his timed speed.I personally think Taylor technique is not good at all, but he is fast and physical
Of Banks, Amerson, Taylor, and Poyer, Taylor is the only one I'd trust to play Man on the perimeter for any extended period. I think Amerson can do any of the things you'd ask Banks to do, and he's the better athlete with better ball skills.
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And I'm glad Ireland is the GM and not some of these guys on this site.
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I live in Pittsburgh and they just started rookie camp. Shamarko Thomas securing the early buzz:
I know a lot of you guys liked him a lot, just keepin ya posted.
I know a lot of you guys liked him a lot, just keepin ya posted.
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cant sit back now and cry over spilt milk.our draft is what it is.year 2 with Phiblin will be much better i think
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im not sure results would be any better or worse
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1 (12) - Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame (Would have tried to trade down within the teens, but if not possible, I would have taken Eifert at 12)
2 (42) - Tank Carradine, DE FSU (Would have traded up, preferably into the back end of the 1st to lock up Carradine for 5 years using whatever we gained from the Eifert trade-down, or pick 82 to move up as much as we could. If I couldn't move up, I'd take Terron Armstead)
2 (54) - Jamar Taylor, CB Boise St.
3 (77) - Ryan Swope, WR Texas A&M
3 (82) - Corey Lemonier, LB/DE Auburn
4 (104) - David Bakhtiari, LT Colorado (or Barrett Jones, T/G/C Alabama if we get Terron Armstead)
5 (146) - Bacarri Rambo, S Georgia
5 (164) - Mike Gillislee, RB Florida
5 (166) - Michael Mauti, LB Penn St.
7 (224) - Marquess Wilson, WR Washington St.
7 (250) - Don Jones, CB Arkansas St.
2 (42) - Tank Carradine, DE FSU (Would have traded up, preferably into the back end of the 1st to lock up Carradine for 5 years using whatever we gained from the Eifert trade-down, or pick 82 to move up as much as we could. If I couldn't move up, I'd take Terron Armstead)
2 (54) - Jamar Taylor, CB Boise St.
3 (77) - Ryan Swope, WR Texas A&M
3 (82) - Corey Lemonier, LB/DE Auburn
4 (104) - David Bakhtiari, LT Colorado (or Barrett Jones, T/G/C Alabama if we get Terron Armstead)
5 (146) - Bacarri Rambo, S Georgia
5 (164) - Mike Gillislee, RB Florida
5 (166) - Michael Mauti, LB Penn St.
7 (224) - Marquess Wilson, WR Washington St.
7 (250) - Don Jones, CB Arkansas St.
12) Shariff Floyd, DT
42) Eddie Lacy, RB
54) Robert Alford, CB
77) Damontre Moore, DE
104) Dion Sims, TE
106) Brian Schwenke, G
109) David Bakhtiari, T
146) Brandon McGee, CB
164) Ryan Swope, WR
166) Cornelius Washington, LB
224) Reid Fragel, T
250) Don Jones, S
42) Eddie Lacy, RB
54) Robert Alford, CB
77) Damontre Moore, DE
104) Dion Sims, TE
106) Brian Schwenke, G
109) David Bakhtiari, T
146) Brandon McGee, CB
164) Ryan Swope, WR
166) Cornelius Washington, LB
224) Reid Fragel, T
250) Don Jones, S