Why Ireland's Departure May Ultimately Doom This Team

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  1. WesternNYDolfan

    WesternNYDolfan FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

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    I am reminded of a Joni Mitchell Song

    "You Don't Know What You Got Till It's Gone"

    For all of Ireland's misdeeds he was our best drafting GM since Jimmy Johnson was here. While noone will argue he was perfect, he was certainly putting talent on the field.

    We weren't losing games because of talent deficiencies (maybe on the O-Line but that's what this offseason is about).

    Now we'll bring in a new GM who may not want to tie himself to Philbin or Tannehill, then we may have to start all over, just when I believe we were on the precipice of real contention.

    I hope all you scapegoating idiots are happy. This may set our franchise back another 5 years.

    Patience is a far too rare of a virtue nowadays. And the ugly situation with fans calling for Ireland's head has left me appalled and in serious question of this fan bases IQ.

    I sincerely hope everything works out, but I have serious doubts about the direction of this team now. LA Dolphins might be my future favorite team.
     
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    Oh boy. :rolleyes:

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    We don't know what we had? I think 5 out of 6 losing seasons speaks for itself.
     
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    Name one all pro that Irelands drafted
     
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    I honestly did not think it was all him, but he is gone and now we move on to possible better things Fins Up!
     
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    Jeff, shouldn't you be looking for another job?
     
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    you can say that all you want but he wasn't let go because of idiot fans. However, I do worry that the next GM will not be any better.

    edit typo
     
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    He doesn't get to claim 2008 because Parcells was in charge meaning he had not one winning season as Dolphins GM.

    ---------- Post added at 08:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:25 PM ----------

    I have been waiting for this. The infamous blame it on the fans mantra.
     
  12. WesternNYDolfan

    WesternNYDolfan FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

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    That's the thing.

    NO it doesn't.

    Not to mention they weren't all LOSING seasons, they just weren't winning seasons.

    Fact is, in this NFL you mire in mediocrity until you get above average QB play. Which is why when we had Pennington we won our division.

    Sure you can stack your team around an average QB i.e. the Texans or the Bengals, but that won't get you where you want to go.

    Ross jumped the gun, next year will be Tannehill's breakout season as long as this new GM doesn't do anything stupid, and we will be better, but it won't be because Ireland is gone.

    But I'm sure you'll all be singing the new GMs praises, when the new GM will have had little to do with building the contender we have.

    hopefully Ross doesn't hire some idiot who doesn't know how to draft or just "wants to make a splash", but the way Ross has handled everything I don't believe we'll see a top teir candidate want to come here.
     
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    huh?
     
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    Sherly you can't be serious?!?!
     
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    I agree, Jeff was an awesome GM

    Signed,

    Ernest Wilford, Pat White, Patrick Turner, Dallas Thomas, Phillip Wheeler, Sean Smith, Snake Grove, and Chad henne
     
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    nvmind
     
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    If I were "homering" I would be supporting Ross' decision
     
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    Makes sense. There's another super homer who posts here who roots for another team. He blamed the fans too when people got fired. Same mindset
     
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    Jake Long - 2008 - Not a long list.
     
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    ugh, knew that was gonna happen too. I meant WASN'T. I corrected my original post. My fault.
     
  22. WesternNYDolfan

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    Mike Pouncy
     
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    Is this for real? Set us back????? Like we we're ahead with Ireland???? Stop.
     
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    You will. Not long after we hire the next gm you'll homer up to him too
     
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    Well just for ****s and giggles. Pouncey, Wake,Fields (sort of), and Long but it gets foggy from there lol
     
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    Jeff Ireland drafted some talent...however a lot of that talent was square pegs for a round hole.

    4 of our 6 draft we picked in the top 15 and we have little to show for it. Compare that to the Bengals roster, which I think is loaded with the exception of the QB, who picked in front of us only twice in those 6 years and tell me who's done a better job of getting impact players. Bengals have been to three consecutive playoffs for the first time in forever while we've not been to the playoffs in 5 years now and haven't had a winning season in those 5 years with two different coaches.

    Jeff Ireland is very reactive rather than proactive. Last year in Tannehill's rookie season he failed to get Tannehill any viable targets at the WR position. We went into the season HOPING one of the undrafted WRs we had on our roster would step up. The only drafted WR we had was Hartline. The following year he addressed the WR position but failed to address the OL after Long walked and knowing full well that Incognito and Jerry were not fits in the ZBS the coach was trying to employ. Again, behind the curve and not planning ahead.

    I could go on but I'm pretty sure I know what we had and I'm glad it's gone.
     
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    At first glance , I thought this thread was from 2013.
     
  28. WesternNYDolfan

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    Watch when Jeff gets his next GM job how well he does and we'll be left with some sort of atrocity who undoes all the superb roster building he does here.

    You can magnify all the bad moves all you'd like, but fact is noone bats 1000%. Fact is we're stacked at WR, DL, DB, QB, in good shape at LB, and I believe our RBs are fine if we can fix our OLine that already has a centerpiece in Pouncey.
     
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    Well then he's right we are being set back.

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    I have nothing to add, I just wanted to be a part of this spectacular thread hahaha
     
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    NOPE! Not on the All Pro Team.
     
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    Pouncey has never been selected All Pro.
     
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    At some point people need to move on. The man has been fired on to the next guy or woman :)
     
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    Hate to break it to you Pouncey never made an "all pro" team. His brother did.
    He did get voted to his first pro bowl this year, but if anything this year has somewhat tarnished Mike Pouncey.
     
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    If you're talking about Ireland's draft picks Fields was not one of them...that was Cam Cameron...Wake was of course a free agent signing that Brain Gaine brought down from Canada and it was Parcells that convinced him to sign...if you'll remember Wake had 17 teams interested in him and he worked out for 8 of them. http://www.thephinsider.com/2009/1/18/727632/dolphins-sign-cfl-star-cam.
     
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    And because he sucked at drafting he always had to spend big money in FA
     
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    Pro bowl is basically All-Pro. Funny thing is we are actually in really good shape going forward and not in cap hell like alot of teams are right now.

    Would you rather be the Cowboys and be 20 million over the cap right now or how about the Steelers who are in the same baot.

    Look the man did a bad job but he didnt run us into the ground, some of you sound like jealous ex girlfriends lol
     
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