Dolphinator530
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Any chance for those who follow it more than me if Hurst could fall to the 3rd due to age and a lack of projectability?
Any chance for those who follow it more than me if Hurst could fall to the 3rd due to age and a lack of projectability?
If we go defense at #11, there is a good chance we have to snag a QB in round 2. The need for a TE is huge so if need be, you might have to trade back into round 3 to go get him.
I agree with Hurst. But still just puzzled at your take on Andrews. He is faster than every TE except for Gesicki. He is being praised in workouts for his quickness. He is also an insane red zone threat and own's the seam. I'm not against goedert but he has big separation issues. Andrews with a 4th round grade is just way off. Him and Hurst are best in this class. Bottom line thou is i would take any of the 4 Hurst, andrews, gesicki or goedert. Miami needs a TE!Define lack of projectability? Several top draft analysts have him as their top TE. He's impressed me more than any other tight end and seems to be a great fit for Miami's offense. I think he should be there for Miami's second, but no way he lasts until the third. He's only a year older than Tannehill when he was drafted.
Goedert and Hurst should be Miami's top 2 targets at TE.
A tier 2 target should be Gesicki, though he scares me because he's basically just a big slot receiver, same with Andrews. Though Gesicki at least has elite athleticism for a TE. His combine numbers match up with Mike Evans. If Miami doesn't care about blocking, Gesicki should be the guy. If Miami wants a more well-rounded tight end, Hurst or Goedert should be the target. Though I think Hurst does more after the catch and moves better than Goedert. But Goedert has some crazy catches in his repertoire.
I see talent in this year's TE class, and it starts with Goedert, Hurst, and Gesicki. I personally wouldn't take Andrews until the 4th round.
If Miami waits, there are a few guys in the 4th that could be in play. Tyler Conklin is a name to look out for too in round 4.
I agree with Hurst. But still just puzzled at your take on Andrews. He is faster than every TE except for Gesicki. He is being praised in workouts for his quickness. He is also an insane red zone threat and own's the seam. I'm not against goedert but he has big separation issues. Andrews with a 4th round grade is just way off. Him and Hurst are best in this class. Bottom line thou is i would take any of the 4 Hurst, andrews, gesicki or goedert. Miami needs a TE!
If you look at Andrews' film, he doesn't win matchups based on his athletic ability. A lot of his catches are scheme based, in the spread, where he isn't being keyed on or gets away because of good play design. He plays a lot slower on film than he ran. His 3-cone suggests he will have trouble getting off of tight coverage in the NFL. And he was rarely asked to block. He was basically a big slot receiver. Rarely did you see him face tight coverage. For a lot of his receptions, he was wiiiiiiiide open. Whereas when I looked at Goedert, Hurst, or Gesicki, I saw a lot of contested catches and ability to break away from tight coverage.
Define lack of projectability? Several top draft analysts have him as their top TE. He's impressed me more than any other tight end and seems to be a great fit for Miami's offense. I think he should be there for Miami's second, but no way he lasts until the third. He's only a year older than Tannehill when he was drafted.
Goedert and Hurst should be Miami's top 2 targets at TE.
A tier 2 target should be Gesicki, though he scares me because he's basically just a big slot receiver, same with Andrews. Though Gesicki at least has elite athleticism for a TE. His combine numbers match up with Mike Evans. If Miami doesn't care about blocking, Gesicki should be the guy. If Miami wants a more well-rounded tight end, Hurst or Goedert should be the target. Though I think Hurst does more after the catch and moves better than Goedert. But Goedert has some crazy catches in his repertoire.
I see talent in this year's TE class, and it starts with Goedert, Hurst, and Gesicki. I personally wouldn't take Andrews until the 4th round.
If Miami waits, there are a few guys in the 4th that could be in play. Tyler Conklin is a name to look out for too in round 4.
By lack of predictability I mean the fact that he's not going to get much bigger and stronger. Was his production due to the fact he was playing a bunch of 18 and 19 year old underdeveloped kids being a man already?