You lost me at Grier is terrible at drafting offense. Laremy Tunsil, Jaylen Waddle, Robert Hunt, Devon Achane were all massive hits. Austin Jackson, Mike Gesicki probably in the in between range. Liam Eichenberg, Leonte Caroo the only misses I can think of. So not sure where your getting thatLast year I posted a thread, relating to Rick Spielman, former GM saying, certain scouts, GMs etc are better at projecting certain positions.
Looking into CG drafts he was terrible at offense but had an amazing 50% hit on defensive players.
So keeping stupid, simple, I said he should stick to what he's good at:-
Dont trade for Ramsey.
Don't trade for Chubb.
Trade C. Wilkins -(seahawks traded a 2 & 5 for Leonard Williams).
In hindsight just selecting players, same position with those picks.
1.Nolan Smith DE
2.Riley Moss CB
Extra 2 & 4 in this year's draft and extra cap space.
Would we be better off or not?
And if we're being honest Chris Griers 2 worst first round draft picks were Charles Harris and Noah Igbonoghene both defensive playersYou lost me at Grier is terrible at drafting offense. Laremy Tunsil, Jaylen Waddle, Robert Hunt, Devon Achane were all massive hits. Austin Jackson, Mike Gesicki probably in the in between range. Liam Eichenberg, Leonte Caroo the only misses I can think of. So not sure where your getting that
Pretty sure Iggy was a Flores pick. I’ve got no idea about Charles HarrisAnd if we're being honest Chris Griers 2 worst first round draft picks were Charles Harris and Noah Igbonoghene both defensive players
In 7 years??? 6 at best. Wow.You lost me at Grier is terrible at drafting offense. Laremy Tunsil, Jaylen Waddle, Robert Hunt, Devon Achane were all massive hits. Austin Jackson, Mike Gesicki probably in the in between range. Liam Eichenberg, Leonte Caroo the only misses I can think of. So not sure where your getting that
Eich isn't a miss. He played better last season. He is an awful Center. Never put him there again. He has no core strength to hold the middle. He gets pushed back too often. At Guard he did well. He put together a good run. He's not a lost cause, yet. Caroo. wow!! He sucked!!You lost me at Grier is terrible at drafting offense. Laremy Tunsil, Jaylen Waddle, Robert Hunt, Devon Achane were all massive hits. Austin Jackson, Mike Gesicki probably in the in between range. Liam Eichenberg, Leonte Caroo the only misses I can think of. So not sure where your getting that
Pretty sure Iggy was a Flores pick. I’ve got no idea about Charles Harris
Really? Another "hindsight warrior"...
Amen...the whole re-trade-up for Waddle pissed me off. He lost a ton of value in that series of transactions IMO. That kind of stuff infuriates me. And I also agree with the OP's assertion that Grier's bad drafting offensive personnel.
I will give him big props for this off-season so far however. Managed to bring in some VERY valuable deals, gained draft picks in the process, and filled several holes.
Getting to the playoffs isn't special (almost half the league makes the playoffs). Getting bounced out in the 1st round every time isn't special.I like the last half of your post better than your first half.
None of your complaint addresses the facts - we just went to the playoffs his first two years with this team while the team was developing a new core. Nobody's perfect - and I'm talking about many of our players!
As an example, just consider "X", who was pretty good but not as good as he was earlier in his career.
Could McDaniel have done better - YES!
Is he doing better so far following his lead in bringing in new coaching? - YES
Is he doing better following Grier's lead on new players? - YES
Are both Greir and McDaniel doing better interacting with each other in strengthening this team? - YES
Am I Right and you RONG? - LOL
Wiping your ass in public isn't awe inspiring.Getting to the playoffs isn't special (almost half the league makes the playoffs). Getting bounced out in the 1st round every time isn't special.
I am absolutely correct in my assessment that Grier lost value with some of the moves he made with draft picks...your feelings don't like it, and IDGAF.
I like the last half of your post better than your first half.
None of your complaint addresses the facts - we just went to the playoffs his first two years with this team while the team was developing a new core. Nobody's perfect - and I'm talking about many of our players!
As an example, just consider "X", who was pretty good but not as good as he was earlier in his career.
Could McDaniel have done better - YES!
Is he doing better so far following his lead in bringing in new coaching? - YES
Is he doing better following Grier's lead on new players? - YES
Are both Greir and McDaniel doing better interacting with each other in strengthening this team? - YES
Am I Right and you RONG? - LOL
Really? Another "hindsight warrior"...
The years don't matter it's about how many players did he take and how many hit. The better GMs hit on around 50% of their picks and Grier has been in that range consistently.In 7 years??? 6 at best. Wow.
Considering we traded up to take him and I don't consider him a quality starter I would consider it a miss.Eich isn't a miss. He played better last season. He is an awful Center. Never put him there again. He has no core strength to hold the middle. He gets pushed back too often. At Guard he did well. He put together a good run. He's not a lost cause, yet. Caroo. wow!! He sucked!!