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Tunaphish429 said:
The 43 is better against the pass... So if you believe that this league is going to more of a passing league then you should go to a 43...But its not easy finding great parts for a 43..Ask the falcons..They are struggling right now and they have run a 43 for a long time now. 34 or 43 the bottom line is you have to make plays...Bottom line.. Our secondary is in shambles right now so I dont think that it would matter much but I think we would get alot more consistent pressure especially against big personnel..Its not just the personnel in a 34 that make it hard to get pressure on a qb , its the gaps that they man thats the biggest problem with it IMO
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it's not really harder it depends on what 4-3 you run. Mike Smith likes to have a defense that relies heavily on the defensive line getting pressure and sending very little, if any, blitzes. The problem has been that outside of Abraham, they don't have that.
 
Sirspud said:
Our front 7 is built exclusively, from the ground up, for the 3-4.
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We don't have a nose tackle to play 3-4 and we don't have fast lbs to play 3-4. 3-4 requires the NT to fill two gaps. Our nose tackle has not filled a gap since he was tagged. The results speak for themselves. Our lbs lack coverage skills required to play 3-4. Thats why TEs and RBs kill us.
 
The problem with the Dolphins 3-4 it's that they don't have a true ROLB ala Lawrence Taylor or James Harrison, a guy that's good rushing from the QB blindside. Cam Wake is a great pass rusher but only from the left side. I agree with the OP let's go back to the 4-3.
 
ChambersWI said:
it's not really harder it depends on what 4-3 you run. Mike Smith likes to have a defense that relies heavily on the defensive line getting pressure and sending very little, if any, blitzes. The problem has been that outside of Abraham, they don't have that.
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Under Jimmy and Wanny Phins ran a similar 43. There is no one way to run it of course..Eagles and Giants run an attacking 43. Teams have had success, but money wise and draft status wise its harder to find good to great pass rushers that are de. That's why teams were going to a 34, money and draft status.. Look at the great true De in this league they are high first round picks..there are some exceptions like Mathis and Justin Tuck.
 
Heinegrabber said:
We don't have a nose tackle to play 3-4 and we don't have fast lbs to play 3-4. 3-4 requires the NT to fill two gaps. Our nose tackle has not filled a gap since he was tagged. The results speak for themselves. Our lbs lack coverage skills required to play 3-4. Thats why TEs and RBs kill us.
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There's a difference between not built for the 3-4 and not doing their jobs. Basically no one on the team is doing their jobs.
 
Phins28 said:
The problem with the Dolphins 3-4 it's that they don't have a true ROLB ala Lawrence Taylor or James Harrison, a guy that's good rushing from the QB blindside. Cam Wake is a great pass rusher but only from the left side. I agree with the OP let's go back to the 4-3.
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Yup Wake only gets pressure from the strong side...He is stone walled by LT's
 
What your trying to do in a 34 is basically stop the run and make the opposing team one dimensional. Making them pass the ball more than they want.. Thats been our problem the last 3 weeks even when Miami has shut down the running game teams still easily passed all over us.. The other thing was that 34 was not played as much so when you played a team chances were they didnt see a 34 but a few times in a year..Now its become the norm in the NFL I think more than half play it.
 
Ricky_Fan34 said:
There's a difference between not built for the 3-4 and not doing their jobs. Basically no one on the team is doing their jobs.
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We don't have the talent. Our lbs are not all of a sudden going to start covering TEs. Our NT is not going to all of a sudden demand double teams. No one in this scheme needs to be double teamed. NE, CLE, and the PATs proved that.
 
Heinegrabber said:
We don't have the talent. Our lbs are not all of a sudden going to start covering TEs. Our NT is not going to all of a sudden demand double teams. No one in this scheme needs to be double teamed. NE, CLE, and the PATs proved that.
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We don't have the talent in the secondary. the 3-4 would be much more effect if we had any support from the secondary. Not being able to cover tight ends isn't all on the linebackers either. Safeties are often matched up with tight ends as well as Sean Smith.

No one in this scheme needs to be double teamed.... really? Cam Wake doesn't draw double teams on a consistent basis?

Look, you stated this team wasn't built for the 3-4 and that's just flat wrong. Now you've changed your argument to them not being able to play it. Like I said though, it'd be a completely different defense with any degree of competency in the secondary.
 
A 4-3 is better for pass defense, and its become a pass first league more than ever. A 3-4 was great for stopping the run, but run first teams are a thing of the past, especially in our division.

NE has been running a lot of 4-3 fronts with Wilfork and Haynesworth. Making the switch wouldn't be as drastic as many people think.
 
Zounds said:
A 4-3 is better for pass defense, and its become a pass first league more than ever. A 3-4 was great for stopping the run, but run first teams are a thing of the past, especially in our division.

NE has been running a lot of 4-3 fronts with Wilfork and Haynesworth. Making the switch wouldn't be as drastic as many people think.
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Wilfork and Haynesworth are great football players. And I may be wrong, but Haynesworth was a 4-3 lineman to begin with.
 
you can play a 3-4 but atleast have a stud like Wilfork and backers not named MISI and Burnett

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beanh8er said:
He destroys all defenses.
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not the bills!!!!hahahaha
 
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