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soccerphinsfan7 said:
Come on Boston.. you know you wanna do it (Yankees fan), or maybe they should trade manny to yanks for Tony Womack and Bernie Williams... sounds good to me
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The Yanks just to be a-holes should call up Boston and see what they want for Manny. Hey, doesn't hurt to ask! :lol: :lol:
 
It will not happen because Manny is putting up good numbers and he is a huge fan favourite it would just be a real stupid decision.
 
FaninPatsyLand said:
I'd say giving the GIAMBINO 100+ million dollars was pretty stupid.
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why, cause they couldn't read into the future and see all of the BS coming? Now NY must go to Mss Cleo and get a reading before making a deal.

Some deals work out some don't. But I wouldn't call that one stupid as AT THE TIME, Giambi was one of the 3 best players in the entire league.
 
wazzy said:
It will not happen because Manny is putting up good numbers and he is a huge fan favourite it would just be a real stupid decision.
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he's putting up numbers. Not so sure about the fan favorite part anymore.
 
MikeO said:
why, cause they couldn't read into the future and see all of the BS coming? Now NY must go to Mss Cleo and get a reading before making a deal.

Some deals work out some don't. But I wouldn't call that one stupid as AT THE TIME, Giambi was one of the 3 best players in the entire league.
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My point was that a Yankee fan shouldn't be throwing stones, living in a glass house. The New York Yankee Organization has made plently of moves that could be considered stupid quite recently. ;)
 
FaninPatsyLand said:
My point was that a Yankee fan shouldn't be throwing stones, living in a glass house. The New York Yankee Organization has made plently of moves that could be considered stupid quite recently. ;)
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who's throwing stones? It's giving an opinion on a very possible trade rumor being reported by 2 top reporters on ESPN.

This once again, proves my point that the vast majority of Red Sox fans have a 2nd city mentality. It's always a competition. This thread has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE YANKS, and Red Sox fans go and turn it around and compare it to something with the Yanks. :shakeno:

YES THE YANKS HAVE MADE BAD MOVES IN THE PAST. What does that have anything to do with this trade rumor?????? Or voicing an opinion that if Boston makes this trade it would be a bad move??:shakeno:
 
MikeO said:
who's throwing stones? It's giving an opinion on a very possible trade rumor being reported by 2 top reporters on ESPN.

This once again, proves my point that the vast majority of Red Sox fans have a 2nd city mentality. It's always a competition. This thread has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE YANKS, and Red Sox fans go and turn it around and compare it to something with the Yanks. :shakeno:

YES THE YANKS HAVE MADE BAD MOVES IN THE PAST. What does that have anything to do with this trade rumor?????? Or voicing an opinion that if Boston makes this trade it would be a bad move??:shakeno:
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:sleep:

You started a THREAD about the Red Sox.

Get off your high horse.

EDIT: You also have a signature about the CELTICS. :rofl3: What's the matter, the Knicks didn't interest you enough? You are so hypocritical, it's almost unbelievable. Such a joke...
 
FaninPatsyLand said:
:sleep:

You started a THREAD about the Red Sox.

Get off your high horse.
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Yeah, I started a thread about a trade rumor involving the Red Sox because I don't know, we have been talking about the Manny thing this week. So???? Your point? I didn't go and bash the team. I said I think it would be a bad trade for them and I don't know why they would want to do it..

I didn't go back and start bashing a move the Sox did 4 years ago and bash that (like you did with Giambi). Something so off topic and outdated it doesn't even belong in this thread.

You couldn't take a lot of people saying this trade is bad for Boston, you felt cornered and brought up Giambi and tried to compare it to a Yanks move from some 4 years ago. 2nd city mentality.
 
If this deal goes down people will have to realize that the best GM in baseball isn't Brian Cashman, Omar, Theo or Billy Beane but it is infact Chuck Lamar of the Devil Rays. I can't believe that they might get 4 F'N prospects for Huff and Baez. Did I miss something here? Huff is a good player but he's no Manny and Baez? DANY BAEZ? Come on...

I'm getting sick and having a heart attack at the same time.

(If this trade goes through and Theo is suddenly "missing" I go on record by saying "It wasn't me it was the one armed man".)
 
Ray Finkle said:
If this deal goes down people will have to realize that the best GM in baseball isn't Brian Cashman, Omar, Theo or Billy Beane but it is infact Chuck Lamar of the Devil Rays. I can't believe that they might get 4 F'N prospects for Huff and Baez. Did I miss something here? Huff is a good player but he's no Manny and Baez? DANY BAEZ? Come on...

I'm getting sick and having a heart attack at the same time.

(If this trade goes through and Theo is suddenly "missing" I go on record by saying "It wasn't me it was the one armed man".)
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I like the trade for Kazmir, but the D-rays think they can compete with a 30M payroll? Please!
 
Who To Believe!!!!!!

OK, Daily News is reporting the Mets have ended the deal and won't pay all $64 mill of Manny's contract and have nixed it. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/332831p-284430c.html


Every other outlet (other NY Papers) are reporting the Mets haven't walked away and are still talking to Boston.

ESPN is reporting the Mets walked away NOT because of the money, but because the Red Sox wanted more players in return in this deal. Yet, the 2 teams will talk again on Saturday.

Now, another team has entered this Manny-hunt. FLORIDA! A package of some sort which includes Lowell and AJ Burnett. Sporting News is reporting this.
 
Jeez, I go out to dinner with my wife, and look at the action I miss!

Here's the thing that astonishes me: the original report (from ESPN) said that the Mets would get Ramirez and Baez, the Sox would get Cameron and Huff, and the Rays would get Shoppach, Sanchez, Petit and Milledge. Forget the other two sides for a second; Tampa would be getting Petit, Milledge, Sanchez and Shoppach for Danys Baez and Aubrey Huff. That's a bigger ripoff than the Kazmir/Zambrano deal! Four prospects that are likely among the top 100 in baseball for a good, but not great righthanded reliever, and a positionless slugger that's been slumping almost all year.

I think the Mets make out well enough, because Ramirez is exactly what their lineup needs. I'm not thrilled about him possibly playing RF, but I'll get over it. With Piazza's contract coming off the books next year, they can handle Manny's deal. Assuming Ramirez is due $21 million, that's offset by the $17 million from Piazza and the $7 million from Cameron's deal.

I have no idea why the Sox would want to do this deal. That's why I'm skeptical that it will happen. Theo Epstein is a pretty bright guy, and I don't see him getting snookered like this. The only way it makes some sense for him is if he's preparing to lose Johnny Damon in free agency and sees Cameron as a suitable replacement, and he's planning to make good use of all the money saved on letting Damon and Ramirez walk. And even that strategy is questionable.

Needless to say, I'll be watching this intently for the next 2 days.
 
Here's a summary of the morning yap on this...

Newsday mentions a 20% chance of a deal: http://www.newsday.com:/sports/prin...034.story?coll=ny-sports-print&vote18722090=1

NY Post reports that if there's not significant progress by noon, it's dead:
http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/51054.htm

NY Times says they'll talk today to try and "resuscitate" the deal:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/30/sports/baseball/30shea.html?pagewanted=all&oref=login

Daily News says it's dead:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/332832p-284430c.html

Star-Ledger calls it a longshot:
http://www.nj.com/mets/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1122700688320050.xml&coll=1

Boston Herald says there's "only partial credence" to the rumor:
http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=95856

Somewhat ironically, the Globe appears to be the most optimistic about this happening:http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/07/30/theres_a_buzz_in_the_air_at_fenway/

Providence Journal says there are a number of Ramirez trade scenarios, but this one is the least likely:http://www.projo.com/redsox/content/projo_20050730_30fight.227743d2.html

So there you go, all the gossip fodder you need for the morning. :)
 
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