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7/27 Training Camp updates

I'm assuming hoops is giving Revis credit, because he's not allowed to be as physical with WR's as Prime was when he played, and he's obviously giving him credit for being a much better tackler. I get the argument; some people used to make the same argument for Rod Woodson; but I'll take Deion's game over Revis' game. Outside of guys like Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, and Ronnie Lott, Deion's as good as any defender in NFL history. For a two-year stretch, he was the deciding factor in the NFC representative (won with the 49er's and then the Cowboys).
 
tay0365 said:
That would allow whoever becomes the slot receiver to get huge plays, especially if that player is Landry, who could possibly already be our best all around reciever.
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If you think you can beat the Patriots with a rookie slot receiver, then okay. I tend to think not.

On the Revis vs. Deion argument what's interesting is that Revis would have been better than he is today in Deion's time (because the rules for being physical with receivers was more lax) whereas Deion would have benefited from the current rules more than Revis (Deion being the most athletic corner to ever play the game and perhaps the greatest athlete to ever play football).

Anyway, there's no right answer. I happened to think Deion was the better player in just about every way, and I'd take a few more corners in NFL history before I got to Revis (Darrell Green, Mike Haynes, possibly a few others... without even getting to guys who thrived in another era like Mel Blount), but there's no doubt that a healthy and pissed off Darrell Revis is the best corner in the NFL today and can shut down anybody we can throw out there. The only thing to hope for is that Belichick has started to slow down a bit mentally and let the game pass him by a bit. It happens to every coach and I've seen a few indications it's begun to happen to him, too.
 
tay0365 said:
Then again if you play terrified against him, then you have already lost. by no mean test or underestimate a dangerous player the caliber of Revis, but also if the play is there, don't change it because of the player and who he once was or could be again. Miami needs to play smart, but not afraid.
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Well yeah if the play is there fine, but don't just throw at him or throw bombs just to do it. Or purposefully overthrow Wallace like someone suggested.
 
We were sold on the idea that James was a plug and play guy and so that's why he went 19th. If he's not ready, that may not bode well for this regime. There's pressure on that kid to work out in week one. 43 days to get ready.
 
Deion got me into NFL football, I was a Bluejays fan and the hype at the time was incredible when Sanders was playing in the World Series, so I'll be forever grateful (even though I can't stand him on NFL Network now). Not sure why I started following the Dolphins though, I'm guessing it must have been because their games were always televised here on the east coast because of Marino and Shula.
 
Austin Tatious said:
We were sold on the idea that James was a plug and play guy and so that's why he went 19th. If he's not ready, that may not bode well for this regime. There's pressure on that kid to work out in week one. 43 days to get ready.
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People need to keep in mind the average sack total was 40 so if you think we're going to be above average after having to retool the entire line you will likely be disappointed.
 
Richard Sherman is hands down better then Revis. QBs throwing at Sherman had a 31 passer rating last year. Tops in the league. Hes been doing that since he came into the league
 
Austin Tatious said:
We were sold on the idea that James was a plug and play guy and so that's why he went 19th. If he's not ready, that may not bode well for this regime. There's pressure on that kid to work out in week one. 43 days to get ready.
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If he was ready to block Cameron Wake by the first day of full pads that would be... something unusual. I'd be worried about Wake, honestly, more than I'd think that James was announcing himself as one of the all time greats.
 
nick1 said:
Richard Sherman is hands down better then Revis. QBs throwing at Sherman had a 31 passer rating last year. Tops in the league. Hes been doing that since he came into the league
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I'll be curious to see if there's any impact on the secondary this season, if the NFL is actually serious about actually enforcing illegal contact every time its committed.
 
The nfl did that same crap back in 04 after the pats man handled the colts WRs. Football is supposed to be physical. I wish they stopped changing the purity of the sport because they see more points equals more ratings
 
nick1 said:
The nfl did that same crap back in 04 after the pats man handled the colts WRs. Football is supposed to be physical. I wish they stopped changing the purity of the sport because they see more points equals more ratings
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Starting when? The first major rules changes to help the offense date to the late 70s, not 2004.
 
nick1 said:
The nfl did that same crap back in 04 after the pats man handled the colts WRs. Football is supposed to be physical. I wish they stopped changing the purity of the sport because they see more points equals more ratings
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If you think the NFL will ever, particularly with Goodell there, ignore profit for the sake of the game...I got some real fake-gold to sell ya.
 
WVDolphan said:
I do not find humor in this at all. WHY are they doing this? Is this typical on other teams? Is Philbin a moron?

I understand that Tannehill will turn it over a lot and may need to make a couple of tackles, but does form tackling ever come into play? Isnt it usually the QB tripping someone, tackling from behind in pursuit, up or just getting in the way to make a player returning a fumble or INT hesitate or change direction so that someone else can tackle him? Why risk injury to one of your QBs by having them practice form tackling in pads?

Personally I think this is much more foolish than anything Cam Cameron ever did, such as having Ronnie Brown return KOs in preseason. This is as baffling as Tony Sparano sending Jake Wrong out there in the 4th qtr of the last preseason game vs. Dallas.
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Just remember dude. There is no room on the Tannehill bandwagon. I will personally keep you off.
 
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