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A Look at the Remaining Schedule

Amazed at how so many are taking the Chiefs for granted. Mark that down as a loss. An 0-2 team that is on the road playing desperate football against a team with mediocre QB play and a plus minus ratio that continues at a negative pace. I'll take the desperate team for the win.

How are we taking them for granted? The Chiefs are not as bad as some people think, but there are also reasons to think that Miami has a good chance at home. I'm not just looking at that team and going "Yeah we'll **** them up, no biggie."

I look at them and say, the OL is REALLY struggling, their best offensive player is hurt and will be either limited or unable to play, their defense has some serious question marks, and their wide receiver unit is not very good. In fact, that KC team sort of reminds me of the 2013 Dolphins...

Right now, the best reason I can come up with for why I should give the edge to KC is that they might be desperate after starting 0-2 and that Miami might come out flat again. That could happen, but the Dolphins could come out fired up, too. I have to look at the matchups and I feel like the Dolphins match up well against KC.
 
The real season doesn't start until week 14, when the race for the final playoff spots begin. If Miami can head into the final 4 games with a 7-5 record they should have a shot at the playoffs.
 
How are we taking them for granted? The Chiefs are not as bad as some people think, but there are also reasons to think that Miami has a good chance at home. I'm not just looking at that team and going "Yeah we'll **** them up, no biggie."

I look at them and say, the OL is REALLY struggling, their best offensive player is hurt and will be either limited or unable to play, their defense has some serious question marks, and their wide receiver unit is not very good. In fact, that KC team sort of reminds me of the 2013 Dolphins...

Right now, the best reason I can come up with for why I should give the edge to KC is that they might be desperate after starting 0-2 and that Miami might come out flat again. That could happen, but the Dolphins could come out fired up, too. I have to look at the matchups and I feel like the Dolphins match up well against KC.
I was referring to other comments I saw yesterday than scrolling through this thread the overwhelming majority are picking this as a win. I really don't think the injuries to the Chiefs will affect the outcome of the game. They gave Denver a good second half in Denver yesterday. No reason to think that won't carry over.

I'm not a big Andy Reid guy but he is far better than Philbin and I'm not convinced the Dolphins will be any better prepared than they have been in recent games.

Though I want to believe that quitting with 2 minutes to go in the first half will have no detrimental effect, I can't help but wonder just how high the coaching staff and locker rooms confidence is in Tannehill.
 
Kansas City starts 0-2 all the time. They seem to lead the league. I'm aware of that because I get stuck betting them frequently in that third game. Last year was a rare exception to the 0-2 beginning. Most of my trends focus on the road team but that 0-2 scenario also applies to the home team if certain conditions hold up. It's a high energy spot. Kansas City typically fared best at 0-2 at home but I did cash tickets on them in 2011 and 2012 when they lost the first two games and then were huge underdogs on the road. They should have defeated San Diego as 15 point road underdogs in 2011 and did upset the Saints as 9.5 point dog in 2012.

This time obviously it's a new regime but also missing some key players. Miami should run the ball smack at the Chiefs in the first half, with no fewer than 18 rushes. Read option looks and power sets. There's no more effective method to neutralize an opponent's intensity level than to physically pound away at them. Our running back injuries are irrelevant. Use whoever you have and run the ball.

I expect some high paced aggressive darts from Alex Smith off play action. Keep in mind that the Chiefs are hardly unfamiliar with playing with their second unit. In the finale at San Diego last season they had nothing to play for and rested virtually everybody in anticipation of the playoffs yet played very inspired football and should have won the game other than a missed chippy field goal.

Using this betting strategy do you take the points or go for the big payout on the money line bet?
This game scares me. The Chiefs should have beaten the broncos. They dominated time if possession like the. bills did to us in the 1st half. Need to get a pass rush on Smith. It was nonexistent in buffalo
 
Amazed at how so many are taking the Chiefs for granted. Mark that down as a loss. An 0-2 team that is on the road playing desperate football against a team with mediocre QB play and a plus minus ratio that continues at a negative pace. I'll take the desperate team for the win.

No Charles or Berry. Sorry bud, you're wrong.
 
Based on what I have seen of Lazor's offense, put me down as a win against any 3-4 team and a loss against 4-3 teams...then let me know that that record is...
 
Using this betting strategy do you take the points or go for the big payout on the money line bet?
This game scares me. The Chiefs should have beaten the broncos. They dominated time if possession like the. bills did to us in the 1st half. Need to get a pass rush on Smith. It was nonexistent in buffalo

More often than not I just take the points. I have done plenty of money line research but not nearly as much as pointspread related.

One of my favorite theories is to throw teams in the same block and take +4 or higher with the road team. The NFL has tons of teams in the same basic range of ability. There's far too much nitpicking involved instead of accepting that the teams are basically even. For example, why was Buffalo getting +7 at Chicago on the first weekend? Buffalo is not terrible and Chicago is hardly a juggernaut. Both are what I would call Crowd teams, as opposed to Cream or Crap. Yet the spread is +7 among two Crowd teams. That's the type of scenario I love. I've been betting that angle since 1984. I discovered it while going through NFL results in Montebello, CA. It was startling how much of an advantage there was, by simply taking +4 or above with the road team among equal brackets. I bet it on opening weekend in 1984 and won every one of them. I think it was 6-0. One of them was the Dolphins at Washington, Marino's famous game. I had them both in the Cream category and took +4.5. If Washington had been at Miami getting +4 or higher, I would have taken them. Few decisions and no second guessing that way. Eventually I discovered some situational trends that counteract the basic +4 system but it's still very reliable, especially early in the season before all the situational trends kick in. I saw nyjunc post that Buffalo beating Chicago was a shocker. What? It's only a shocker if you assigned things that weren't there. That's what the sportsbooks rely on.

Also, money line bargains are seldom available. I do keep a chart and bet them when somebody makes a mistake. That happens seldom these days, compared to years and decades ago. The MGM Grand, for example, had a sportsbook manager who intentionally gave out massive money line bargains in the '90s. He picked certain favorites he thought couldn't lose and knowingly set the money line so high on those games to make sure the local wise guys would pound the money line underdog.

Kansas City might have so many guys out or hurting that they don't resemble their true selves. Still, it's a +4 game for me unless some situational system nullifies that. I haven't gone through everything yet. Last weekend I actually bet against both teams for the same reason. Kansas City was also in a negative Fury of Anti Revenge spot. They lost both games to Denver last season and now were facing them early on the road. I got a late rally to cover that one. Denver trailed 10-7 then scored two touchdowns to lead at halftime 21-10. For some reason I get lucky on first half wagers, far beyond game spreads or second half bets.
 
CHIEFS - W
@Raiders (London) - W
BYE
PACKERS - W
@Bears - L
@Jaguars - W
CHARGERS - W
@Lions - L
BILLS - W
@Broncos - L
@Jets - W
RAVENS - W
@Patriots - L
VIKINGS - W
JETS - L

10-6, totally doable.

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Judging by how we have played, how can any of you pencil us in as a win against anyone?

We have 2 games played with a picture of when we are getting back players. Add that to an understanding of the teams we are going against and you can predict.
 
More often than not I just take the points. I have done plenty of money line research but not nearly as much as pointspread related.

One of my favorite theories is to throw teams in the same block and take +4 or higher with the road team. The NFL has tons of teams in the same basic range of ability. There's far too much nitpicking involved instead of accepting that the teams are basically even. For example, why was Buffalo getting +7 at Chicago on the first weekend? Buffalo is not terrible and Chicago is hardly a juggernaut. Both are what I would call Crowd teams, as opposed to Cream or Crap. Yet the spread is +7 among two Crowd teams. That's the type of scenario I love. I've been betting that angle since 1984. I discovered it while going through NFL results in Montebello, CA. It was startling how much of an advantage there was, by simply taking +4 or above with the road team among equal brackets. I bet it on opening weekend in 1984 and won every one of them. I think it was 6-0. One of them was the Dolphins at Washington, Marino's famous game. I had them both in the Cream category and took +4.5. If Washington had been at Miami getting +4 or higher, I would have taken them. Few decisions and no second guessing that way. Eventually I discovered some situational trends that counteract the basic +4 system but it's still very reliable, especially early in the season before all the situational trends kick in. I saw nyjunc post that Buffalo beating Chicago was a shocker. What? It's only a shocker if you assigned things that weren't there. That's what the sportsbooks rely on.

Also, money line bargains are seldom available. I do keep a chart and bet them when somebody makes a mistake. That happens seldom these days, compared to years and decades ago. The MGM Grand, for example, had a sportsbook manager who intentionally gave out massive money line bargains in the '90s. He picked certain favorites he thought couldn't lose and knowingly set the money line so high on those games to make sure the local wise guys would pound the money line underdog.

Kansas City might have so many guys out or hurting that they don't resemble their true selves. Still, it's a +4 game for me unless some situational system nullifies that. I haven't gone through everything yet. Last weekend I actually bet against both teams for the same reason. Kansas City was also in a negative Fury of Anti Revenge spot. They lost both games to Denver last season and now were facing them early on the road. I got a late rally to cover that one. Denver trailed 10-7 then scored two touchdowns to lead at halftime 21-10. For some reason I get lucky on first half wagers, far beyond game spreads or second half bets.

I was debating whether to bet the broncos and lay the points against kc for half or for full game. I ended up going against my initial feel that Denver would jump to early lead. After the false news of welker being available came out the half time points went above a TD. It scared me off and I went with full game and lost. Go with your gut
 
4-12 or 5-11 is my predication. No way on Earth we win more games than that.
 
After the KC game, I think I'm going to drop my prediction down to 5-11


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You guys are being generous. They should beat the Raiders and Vikings but I use "should" loosely. This team is so poorly coached and prepared that they are beaten before games start.
 
As soon as this team crapped the bed up in Buffalo, the excuses began, then the wishful thinking: "Oh yeah, we're just going to steamroll the Chiefs, just you watch." How anyone still has faith in this team is beyond me. It's as if said fan went into a coma in 1999 and slept through the following 15 years. The Dolphins don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Ever.

This team is nothing except unpredictable and often underwhelming. Can they go out and beat the Patriots on any given week? Yes. Can they go out and lose to the dregs of the league on any given week? Also yes. And by the end of the season, they'll have accumulated just as many losses as wins, or maybe a few more losses than wins.
 
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