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A Skeptical View on Ronnie Brown

burghPhinFan said:
click here
-scroll down to Ronnie's name under draft results
-click on the camera icon next to his name
-you will believe!!!!!!!
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There are some runs I've never seen on there before. Wow I just busted a nut. Who said Brown wasn't good in the open field? God I can't wait to watch him on Sundays.
I could watch that video all day.
 
Mr Yu said:
- I hope your wrong. If your right , the Fins are going to be hurting with the cap # for a long time.

- I do think your wrong. Here's why : I think the guy is a gamebreaker. He's smart , very , very big , very fast & has great hands. Caddy went at #5. What a backfield!

Remember , Ricky was non-commital at the time of the draft leaving us with Minor , Gordon & Morris. Brown was the right pick. Having Rick is a great. We finally have a 1-2 punch.
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Hey, you're hoping I'm wrong about what??? I'm not saying he's not going to be good. I'm just saying, I can't start getting too excited over a guy I didn't see much of in college and that hasn't played a game against a real NFL D yet. No wrongs or rights. I hope he's awesome.
 
Timmy54 said:
One more time I will clear up the Auburn thing for you guys. Ronnie and Caddy were recruited at the same time, and as high school blue chippers, the coaching staff knew they had two great talents when both signed (most likely only expected to get one). Both are very good backs and instead of ruining one's NFL chances, the coaching staff decided to split time because they both brought different things to the table. One was the outside shifty runner (caddy) and one is the power back (Ronnie) it just happens that ronnie also had better hands in the passing game so he was the passing down back more than Caddy. Auburn knew that if they made one of these guys the starter over the other, the looser would have to leave because the nfl doesnt want a back up and Auburn wanted both to stay (every team needs more than one player at every position). It was a semi odd situation but Auburn made it worked ant Ronnie and Caddy were top 5 picks. So stop beating Ronnie up for his college days, you should actually be thankful for them because they taught him to be a team player and the being #1 back wasnt the most important thing, winning is!!
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- Nice post.

- The Jest have Fiedler...HAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
 
JoeRobStad4ever said:
I'm looking for Brown to be better than him if we picked him ahead of him...
I know Auburn used Caddy a little more than Brown even though they shared time.

And you're right, some guys, are great in college, but aren't in the NFL, and some of those were top RB picks, ala Curtis Enis, Rashaam Salaam....So without enough production in college, I've got to be a little hesitant. However, the video reel I just saw made him look great... I just think no one should be comparing him to Bo Jackson or Ricky Williams or any other Pro Bowl back until he proves himself in game time. Because for right now, he's a huge ? mark to me, he could be the next Bo Jackson or he could be the next Rashaam Salaam....
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yeah i kinda liked what i saw too:

he ran over people

he had a nice over-the-shoulder grab

he was able to burst out of the defenders grasp. he looks slower than he is it seems
 
JoeRobStad4ever said:
Ok, I hate to be pessimistic, so let's just say I'm conservatively hoping Ronnie Brown can be the next great back for us...

I bring this up because I've been reading on this site about how Ronnie Brown can be the next "Bo Jackson if Ricky can pass on some of his vision" and other high comments and everybody of course is really excited about him cause he is finally in camp and is catching every pass thrown to him...

The reason I don't share the same excitement as fellow posters about Ronnie is I don't have any proof to show me he'll be great. He didn't post great numbers in college because he split time with Cadillac. Which means he didn't impress enough to be the starter ahead of him. And plus, if Ronnie is so awesome why have I not seen any highlights of his runs during college.

Please someone show me a highlight of a run of his, cause I would like to share in the same excitement of optimism, but until then, I will wait and hope he actually performs like a #2 pick when it comes time for the "real" games.

Peace out!
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Tommy Tubberville was quoted as saying that the only difference between the two backs, in his mind (but what does he know, right), is that Williams possessed better "pure" running skills due to his superior field vision...while Brown possessed much better receiving skills than CW. His use of the two backs over the four years reflects exactly that. Both got alot of carries, but CW got more 1/2 down time while RB got more 3rd down and short yardage. Brown was very productive in every aspect.

That aside, it's scary seeing a 6' 230 lb man moving THAT fast and changing direction SO quickly...WOW...nasty combo...give this guy a GOOD OL and I really and truly feel sympathy for opposing defenses. Mmm..Mmm..Mmmmmm
 
Timmy54 said:
One more time I will clear up the Auburn thing for you guys. Ronnie and Caddy were recruited at the same time, and as high school blue chippers, the coaching staff knew they had two great talents when both signed (most likely only expected to get one). Both are very good backs and instead of ruining one's NFL chances, the coaching staff decided to split time because they both brought different things to the table. One was the outside shifty runner (caddy) and one is the power back (Ronnie) it just happens that ronnie also had better hands in the passing game so he was the passing down back more than Caddy. Auburn knew that if they made one of these guys the starter over the other, the looser would have to leave because the nfl doesnt want a back up and Auburn wanted both to stay (every team needs more than one player at every position). It was a semi odd situation but Auburn made it worked ant Ronnie and Caddy were top 5 picks. So stop beating Ronnie up for his college days, you should actually be thankful for them because they taught him to be a team player and the being #1 back wasnt the most important thing, winning is!!
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That is as much misinformation as clearing things up. Cadillac and Ronnie WERE NOT RECRUITED AT THE SAME TIME. Ronnie was a 5th year senior who redshirted as a true freshman in 2000. He even played the first two games of that season before being redshirted. Cadillac stayed four years at Auburn, not five. I can argue that Auburn was no nonchalant about Ronnie Brown after one year in the program they went out and recruited Cadillac for the same position a year later. In fact, Caddy played ahead of Brown in 2001 when Cadillac was a true frosh to Ronnie's redshirt frosh status. Cadillac even had a game against Georgia as a true frosh when he carried the ball more than 40 times, if I remember correctly.
 
JoeRobStad4ever said:
Hey, you're hoping I'm wrong about what??? I'm not saying he's not going to be good. I'm just saying, I can't start getting too excited over a guy I didn't see much of in college and that hasn't played a game against a real NFL D yet. No wrongs or rights. I hope he's awesome.
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A Skeptical View on Ronnie Brown. Your post title. Reread your post. Get excited. Look at some College Highlights. If this staff has screwed up on this guy and missed we will pay for years to come.
 
Timmy54 said:
One more time I will clear up the Auburn thing for you guys. Ronnie and Caddy were recruited at the same time, and as high school blue chippers, the coaching staff knew they had two great talents when both signed (most likely only expected to get one). Both are very good backs and instead of ruining one's NFL chances, the coaching staff decided to split time because they both brought different things to the table. One was the outside shifty runner (caddy) and one is the power back (Ronnie) it just happens that ronnie also had better hands in the passing game so he was the passing down back more than Caddy. Auburn knew that if they made one of these guys the starter over the other, the looser would have to leave because the nfl doesnt want a back up and Auburn wanted both to stay (every team needs more than one player at every position). It was a semi odd situation but Auburn made it worked ant Ronnie and Caddy were top 5 picks. So stop beating Ronnie up for his college days, you should actually be thankful for them because they taught him to be a team player and the being #1 back wasnt the most important thing, winning is!!
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Plus they also ahd Brandon Jacobs, the 6'4 267LBS running back for the GIANTS. He was part of the trio as well, he decided to leave because it was too much competition..He's going to be just as good as Ronnie and Caddy
 
As for the whole he wasn't a "starter" in college argument... all I have to say is, neither was Priest Holmes.
 
CRAZYDOLFAN305 said:
Plus they also ahd Brandon Jacobs, the 6'4 267LBS running back for the GIANTS. He was part of the trio as well, he decided to leave because it was too much competition..He's going to be just as good as Ronnie and Caddy
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I was at Giants camp in Albany a couple of weeks ago, while vacationing in Saratoga. You are right, Brandon Jacobs looked darn impressive in the practice sessions I attended.

Jeremy Shockey, BTW, is an absolute rock star among Giant fans. Almost every person who was wearing a jersey at the practice sessions had #80. I was very impressed not only with Shockley's routes and athletic grabs in Albany, but also how patient and fan friendly he was. After practice he stayed much longer than any other player signing autographs and chatting with fans. He even had a playful attitude about it. After signing at one spot along the tunnel of fans leading away from the practice field, Shockey would start to run toward the lockerroom as if that was it, then stop and smile and sign plenty more.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I was at Giants camp in Albany a couple of weeks ago, while vacationing in Saratoga. You are right, Brandon Jacobs looked darn impressive in the practice sessions I attended.

Jeremy Shockey, BTW, is an absolute rock star among Giant fans. Almost every person who was wearing a jersey at the practice sessions had #80. I was very impressed not only with Shockley's routes and athletic grabs in Albany, but also how patient and fan friendly he was. After practice he stayed much longer than any other player signing autographs and chatting with fans. He even had a playful attitude about it. After signing at one spot along the tunnel of fans leading away from the practice field, Shockey would start to run toward the lockerroom as if that was it, then stop and smile and sign plenty more.
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Wow, how cool is that hunh ?
 
As the 2nd pick in the draft, he was the right guy for us. No one wanted to trade down with us. In April, Ricky was a smoky haze. We desperately needed someone to tot the rock. If we didn't pick Ronnie, he wouldn't have gotten past Tampa Bay. He was not a reach! There have been countless college runners more productive than Ronnie (hell, even ex-Dolphins); Kareem Abdul Jabbar (remember him?), James Johnson (ring a bell?) and even Leonard Henry (he was here last year) He shared time with another great back and that affected his stats. Let's chill and see what happens...:eek:
 
Maynard said:
the fact that he didnt start doesnt bother me at all.

all that tells me is that cadillac was a slightly more effective college player. thats it.

some guys are better pros than college players.

who knows? maybe cadillac will be all-pro and Brown will be right behind him
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:yeahthat:
 
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