Adam Gase: Miami Dolphins Have Serious Plan To Teach, Study And Learn Better

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  1. DKphin

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    http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachp...serious-plan-to-teach-study-and-learn-better/
     
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    Yes just like Landry and Ajayi, all the skill but no effort in preparation. You get paid millions make the effort.
     
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    I believe he does have a plan and most of the moves this off-season were part of the implementation of that plan. His offense is going to look much different in 2018. I think they will be more productive on the field. Just hope they can find a TE. The defense should look much different too.
     
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    How quick we turn our backs....
     
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    If he was able to get 400 catches and 20-some TDs in 4 years without making the effort, I can’t imagine what he’d do with it.
     
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    LOL. From a prime Tannehater. You're going to lecture on loyalty?
     
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    roy_miami 2020 cant get here soon enough Donator

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    And the coach gets paid millions to keep players engaged and prepared.
     
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    I can make that effort… He probably would remain consistent instead of his skill slowly wavering as he begins to wage both naturally and from the pounding. I'm glad Miami held the line on this one, especially with his speed being such a limitation as it is. That is usually the first skill to go.

    ???? Are you defending him for not preparing properly for games? While others curse out the team consistently for not producing or performing up to par on the field.

    LOL, so it's the coaches fault? Isn't that special?
     
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    All I'm saying is if you're going to bring in your BFF from the broadcast booth, pay him a cool $10 million and promise him the starting job no matter what you better put your big boy coaching pants on...
     
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    could it have been Jay Cutler?
     
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    To be fair, Elle is one of the more sensible posters who fit that criterion. And he has a point.
     
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    Gase better be up to this coaching gig he is preaching as the vegas along with others are pointing out he made a huge mistake letting all that talent walk. If he is wrong its going to be very hard for him to hold onto his job.
     
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    I was just about to mention the same thing. Didn't he try, unsuccessfully, to coin the term turnover Tannehill?
     
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    Isn't it better to turn our backs than latch on to a player who was dealt?
     
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    You know, my boss totally holds my hand through my workday. I don't really want to do my work, so she has to keep asking and asking and asking. And when I don't actually read my emails, she'll read them for me! Then my coworkers see how little I'm doing, and they join the fun too. Then we have group email reading sessions where my boss does all of our jobs for us!

    For someone who bashes *a certain player* a lot, you sure have a lot of excuses for some other players.
     
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    Didn't even make it past the first page, and this thread has already moved away from the topic and turned into an e-penis battle.
     
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    My janitor doesn't do any of that either. Whats your point?

    There is a reason coach and boss are different words with different meanings.
     
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    His point is hypocritical. He had no problems turning his back on Tannehill.
     
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    A coach can only teach. He can't learn for the player. If the player refuses, the team is left with only one choice.
     
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    This I agree with. Cutler was a mistake.
     
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    To be fair, I believe there were reports (Armando had an article about it) that Landry was running the wrong routes on occasion. I don't think you do that when you're fully prepared.

    I liked Landry. I think a lot of people, if not most on here, like him as well. The issue was I don't like him enough to pay him more than Julio Jones, AJ Green or anyone in that upper-tier WR group. I think Edelman is even making around 7 or 8 million this year. Baldwin is the best slot WR in the league he's making roughly 12 million.

    I'm curious to see how he performs when he doesn't have 170 targets coming his way. I still wish him the best and will never dislike him for wanting all that money, but I guess we'll wait and see how it turns out.
     
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    I'm not buying it anymore. For 2 seasons, we have seen Gase casting off players like Donald Trump cast off cabinet members. Its the same story........they aren't putting in the work, they don't fit his mold, know the playbook, etc, etc.......blah blah blah. Goodbye Albert, goodbye Ajayi, Landry, Pouncey, Suh, etc. It's crazy how some people still trust this guy. I understand some of these guys were cap casualties, but its not a good look.

    Dude sent a message when he cut Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner during the 2016 season. But he definitely sent the wrong message by bringing in Cutler, trading Ajayi, and cutting Maxwell last year. It just feels like the guy is chasing everyone out of town. I've seen this happen in my career numerous times with new management. In the end, it just leaves an organization decimated and talentless. Eventually the higher ups wisen up and replace that management.
     
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    Jury is still out on this one, IMO. I’ve seen it too, and here’s the thing:

    Sometimes it works. See: Harbaugh, Jim. I’ve seen “hard but fair” management work perfectly well. It generally comes with a message: “Do your job the way I’m telling you to.” Maxwell didn’t. Goodbye. Ajayi didn’t. Goodbye. I’m not buying the Albert, Suh and Pouncey cuts as part of that; those were business/cap decisions.

    Sometimes it doesn’t work. See: Kelly, Chip.

    I hope that Gase knows what he’s doing, and I think he’s got a couple years of leash to make it happen.
     
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    Still a fan of Landry but not at $16 million to be a lazy learner. Wish him well but I've had enough.
     
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    well put, Albert, Suh, and Pouncey were for cap reasons only. The only major thing I will put on Gase so far is we had a Qb trying to come back from a knee injury in an unorthodox way and our backup QB is someone you don't trust of Ryan gets hurt. Why wait until August when you are screwed to make a change? That is 100% on Gase and should have been handled more pro actively.

    The biggest change this offseason to me is bring in more experienced assistant coaches. It will make a big change in on the field performance. We may not have a sexy team but it is a far more functional team.
     
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    If preparation is the emphasis from Gase , I am supporting of it. Preparation is the key to the riddle and it’s what great coaches implement.

    Now we’ll see if he can execute what he envisions.
     
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    The thread title suggest we will teach better. For me that's accountability. I understand coaches hire their friends, but if they're not doing what needs to be done, it's time to get better.

    I like the way Jimmy Johnson built a team. He was always looking for better players and coaches. Whomever was better got the job. Gase needs to mold this way of working. Teach them and get players willing to learn. I believe Gase has a few years to get it straight. Ross and the management team love the guy.
     
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    They were part of the problem, not the solution...
     
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    I think Gase's play calling actually made Ajayi and Landry stars. I mean Ajayi isn't really showcased in Philly and Landry might not be in Cleveland. Look at how K. Drake is now performing under Gase and look how he revitalized Parkey's career. I think these are signs that he knows how to set guys up for success.
     
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    This is from 2012, Remind me again what year Tannehill was drafted?
     
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    Yeah, the only way he's going to be able to do this is put their position on the line, daily.
     
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    Many posters are blaming the players but a lot of the blame falls on the coaches. Let me explain. In school, some teachers are better than others. I didn't learn crap in math my first two years of high school because the my math teacher was terrible at explaining the concepts. Some kids were able to understand but many others weren't. My junior year I had a GREAT math teacher and learned more in one semester than I learned in two years from the other teacher.

    My point... Coaches have to explain and articulate the concepts to where the players can understand it. Every player's ability to retain information is different, what works for one player might not work for the next one. A good coach should have have multiple ways of reaching and teaching. Some of our coaches apparently didn't have that and I think Gase acknowledged that by firing some of them.
     
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    The difference is getting paid millions and being selected to a Professional league.
     
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    Coaches get paid millions and are also in a professional league champ. They get a pass? Coaches are teachers, some are good, some are bad. Seems like we had\have some bad ones.
     
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    Yes you can lead a horse to water but.....
     
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    LMAO....Great point.
     
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    I believe the x-factor that separates the contenders from the rest of the league is discipline. The teams that are constantly in the playoffs, or contending for division titles, have discipline as a team. I don't mean personality issues and off-the-field stuff. Those are obvious.

    I think a team's discipline in practice, classroom, and weight room play a role.

    I guess what I'm saying is, if we had more players than not, that approached their job like Cameron Wake, I think that would translate to success on the scoreboard and win column.
     
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    I dunno, I have a hard time looking into any of these type of comments. Maybe it helps, maybe it doesnt.
     
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    Sorry, but I am limited to only one "like".
     
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    No offense but that's a good thing....you seem to "like" an inordinate number of posts on here...maybe be a little more judicious in doing it so as not to weaken its impact or render them mostly meaningless. Just some friendly advice.
     
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