Adam Gase "obsessed With Josh Rosen"

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  1. Peyeydolphan

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    Miami Herald Reports that Gase is obsessed with Rosen. I heard someone mention a package deal with Tannehill and the 11 pick to move up.
    I say why not package James and RT plus the 11th pick to Denver for the 5th Pick take Rosen or even Mayfield

    How would everyone feel bout this ?
    1(5) Rosen
    2 Hayden Hurst
    3 Shaquem Griffin
    4 Best DT Available
    4 Best RB Available
    6 Best DT Available
    ( If we want to rotate DTs we will need lots of bodies to make up for Suh )
    I would also Sign Vacarro and Move TJ to hybrid backer/safety and split that position with Griffin
     
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    pre draft smoke
     
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    ya it's pre draft news. Don't believe any of it.
     
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    I don’t believe that Garbage at all.
     
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    why move up for guys with plenty of question marks?
    And no, I'd not like that draft at all
     
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    Miami moved up to 5 it better be for a gap generational player like Barkley. Also getting rid of James creates a hole in the Oline. Sam is not ready to be an every down tackle. Plus Tanne is a bargain right now If he stays healthy even more so next year. Just no no no.
     
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    #RT17 is not going anywhere, especially until he proves that his surgically repaired knee can take some hits.
     
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    Rosen is the most likely to be NFL ready and he is a potential franchise quarterback. I could see them doing that deal all day long. Buys Gase time, gets “his guy”, and his potential is as high as anyone else coming out this year.
     
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    Obsessed with a guy who’s one concussion away from early retirement? I’m not buying it for a second.
     
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    I heard on the radio as I was channel surfing (?ESPN or Fox sports) that the Giants and Bills have a tentative trade for the Giants no 2 pick. It was leaked by the Giants apparently to try and drive up the price and the deal would only be finalized closer to the draft.
    If there is any substance to the rumor, there is no chance the phins could Get Rosen.
    Cleveland, Buffalo, NYJ would all take QBs.
     
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    Pure stupidity if true. The Giants have the chance to get the heir to Eli and let him sit for a season or 2 and learn, and they are passing that up? These teams that have had stable QB positions don’t understand how hard it is to find the guy.
     
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    The only way would be if those 3 took Darnold, Allen and Mayfield and you trade up to 5(or 4)
     
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    In any scenario, trading to move up in the draft will be too costly this year. Phins don’t have the firepower.
    While I’m on the fence regarding RT, I believe the phins should draft one of the top 4 if one should fall to 11. However, I would not trade the farm for any of them.
    RT needs legitimate competition, it will make him a better player regardless if he’s with the phins beyond next season. Going to camp every year with no real competition does not bring out the best in any player unless they are extremely self motivated.
     
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    Seems like Rosen is going to fall big kind of like Rodgers if he doesnt get picked inside the top 5.

    We need to draft him at 11 if hes available idc what anyone here says
     
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    Wait a minute. I thought last week he was obsessed with Baker Mayfield.;)
     
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    Rudolph at 11, otherwise they are doing it wrong. It’s as simple as that.
    If they dont come out of the first rd with Rudolph, you can say goodbye to the next 10 years.
     
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    I forgot about it when I first mentioned it a couple weeks ago, using James in any kind of trade with Denver is out of the picture now, they already traded for a RT when the James trade fell thru. And I'm with Birdmond, Rosen looks intrigueing, I don't care about the attitude, but cant draft a QB with concussion issues in first round, def cant trade up for one
     
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    Rudolph will need development as a pro. He will have to work on his shaky accuracy and field vision, plus get used to playing under center and calling plays in the huddle. Rudolph is also not very athletic, though he has good size with average arm strength. Going through progressions and reading the field are problems for Rudolph, and he has to improve there for the NFL. His anticipation is terrible, too, and that will have to improve for the pros, or he could be taking a lot of sacks from holding onto the ball too long.

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    That's what you call the future for this team? Unless you are related to him I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion you posted. Was it sarcasm?
     
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    I think this is a smoke screen, to keep the pressure on Buffalo and make them overpay to move up for a QB.
     
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    Moving up to five to take a running back would be the all time low point for this franchise. Taking a running back in the first round borders on stupid, moving up to take a running back is the most insane thing I can ever conceive of.
     
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    It’s called independent research, which is what teams and others do as well, rather than simply reading what Walter says.
     
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    People keep forgetting that Tannehill is not Gase's hand picked QB. Tannehill was Philbin's QB. I think Gase wants his own hand picked QB.
     
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    76, one of the reasons Gase came to Miami was because he liked Tannehill. I would think that hasn't changed, but with 2 major knee issues in the past couple of seasons it is very important to come away with a QB somewhere in this draft. In a perfect scenario one of the QBs we covet will drop to us at #11. I'm certain Gase knows exactly who he would like to pick if he had that luxury but he likely has a short list if the big 4 fall. I'd like to see us land a QB we can get excited about. I'd get excited over Lamar Jackson but we could trade back, snag a great Lber or Safety, and still get Jackson imo. There's a bunch of second tier QBs who I think can play. Let Gase choose his guy to develop. We really need a great draft and I think if we don't get trigger happy and lose our cool, we'll come away with a stud LBer, a Gronklike TE, a QB and some more depth pieces. This is a time to let the draft come to you. Let everyone else burn major draft capital. Be the team that's smart for a change. Tannenbaum needs to be in the trunk of a car for the entire draft, without his cell phone!! Let him out after we've made our picks.
     
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    Wait, what happened to Mayfield?
     
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    May not go that way at all....well, at least if Cleveland/Bills don't take Rosen and you consider the political angle - The Jest owner Woody Johnson is tight with Trump and was made UK Ambassador by him. They've also known each other many years and have done a lot of business together. Knowing the way Trump is at any PERCEIVED slight, I don't think Johnson would want to incur his wrath (or possible removal from UK ambassador & effects on business dealings) by hiring Rosen who issued an actual slight and wore a "F*** TRUMP" hat (he made himself) on one of Trump's own courses. Woody may nix any signing of Rosen just to avoid a potential tantrum or negative action/PR by Trump.....it's not totally out there to think that Trump might remove Johnson as UK guy if they sign Rosen which Trump would probably take as Johnson playing a part in embarrassing him and rubbing salt in the wound.

    If Trump was just the old NY business guy then I'd say yes, they would not pass on Rosen...now with him as President I'd be shocked if they took him. Goes to show you you can't just think of these things in what makes sense or just from a sports angle....you have to factor in outside variables and the Trump/Johnson/Rosen thing can doom the best guess on what's "supposed" to happen. If Darnold and Allen are gone then the Jest just might take Mayfield.

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    Think what you want but Barkley will make a bigger impact on a team especially Miami then any of these quarterbacks will. He also won’t cost 35 million a year like they will if they turn out to be better then good. Next Barry Sanders.
     
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    Don't be so sure that Tbaum doesn't pull a draft day trade to shock the world.
     
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    Definitely.

    Last thing Miami wants is for a QB to go 12th.

    Dolphins are doing all the right things. If Buffalo wants a QB they need to overpay for him. Also we need to see all 4 QB's go top 10.

    I don't think the Dolphins are targeting any specific player as much as trying to land a blue chip prospect with the 11th pick.
     
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    Not sure why more don't see this as a huge concern- I sure do.
     
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    I don't believe that Gase is "obsessed with anyone.
     
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    nothing he does would shock me. He likes to make the big splash that never seems to work for us. I'm just hoping Gase can keep him from doing anything stupid once again
     
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    If they decide to move on from Tannehill, I'd be happy with either Rosen or Mayfield, particularly the latter, and I'm warming to Rudolph (not at 11, but we'd likely have to trade up a bit from our 2nd to get him).
     
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    For your information, I am not advocating trading up for a qb, but that is the only position a general manager worth his salt would trade up for. There is not one player in any draft that is a sure thing and a running back is the easiest position in football to find a quality starter late into the draft. Even if I knew I was getting whoever you think was the greatest running back in history, I still wouldn't want to trade up for him. Plus, there is a good chance guys drafted later than Barkley will be just as good or better. It is dumb to draft a running back in the first round. You should really draft guys in the first round that are real expensive on the free agent market because when you hit on them you have a cheap premier position player for five years. J-off-her-doll pointed out in another thread that Leonard Fournette has the seventh highest cap hit out off all the running backs in the NFL. That's just foolish money to pay to a running back on his rookie contract.
     
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    If they draft Rudolph, I don't think it'd be by moving up from 42 but rather from moving down from 11
     
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    No thanks. Would rather draft a top talent at 11 and trade a couple mid-rounders to move up. More talent and less mediocrity.
     
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