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The following quick scenarios assume that the AFC South runner-up (Colts/Titans) wins the first wildcard, and that no games end tied. If Miami finishes the season…

5-0: Wildcard assured (obviously, based on current overall records). Also, any Pats loss (besides vs. Miami) gives the Dolphins the AFC East.

4-1: Only Denver can deny us a wildcard, and the Broncos must finish 5-0 in order to do it (but in that case the Broncos would take it, no matter which game we lost). The AFC North runner-up (Bengals/Ravens) cannot finish 5-0, since they play each other again.

3-2: This remains complicated, but here’s a quick rundown. Only Denver or the AFC North runner-up could cost us a wildcard, and only if one or both went 4-1. In this scenario, the outcome still depends on which games each team loses (AFC/NFC). If Denver goes 4-1 with an AFC loss (any of its next four games) then Miami’s three wins would have to come over the Pats, Bills and Jets to have a chance. In that case, If Denver’s loss is to Indy, then Miami is in (via record in ‘common games’); if Denver’s only loss is to the Raiders, Chiefs or Browns, the tiebreak would go to all the way to ‘strength of victory’ (Miami leads, but this changes weekly).

Early warning: Miami’s defeat of Baltimore could be nullified in a 3-way tie with Denver at 10-6 (via the ‘head-to-head sweep’ rule).

Overall, with Denver facing some tough opponents (Colts, Chiefs, Packers in Lambeau) and the AFC North runner-up already guaranteed a sixth loss (barring a tie), Miami looks reasonably good for a wildcard even with a 3-2 finish. But it’s nowhere near guaranteed.

Every game remains critical, but Dallas (as an NFC opponent) is not quite a ‘must-win.’ The season is not yet on the line. Winning Thursday would really put the pressure on New England though, at Indianapolis on Sunday.

Excruciatingly detailed tiebreak scenarios, for those of you who enjoy this sort of thing, will follow next week and thereafter.
 
Its the most wonderful time of the yeeeeeeear!

It is almost that time to make our own heads spin with all the crazy scenarios that are sure to play out. Buckle up boys and girls as we play the wacky NFL Game called PLAYOFF DRIVE!
 
Although a wild card spot would be nice, I am still hoping for the AFC East Crown!

Here is how:

New England Schedule (9-2)

Nov. 30 @Indianapolis (Loss)
Dec. 7 Miami (Loss)
Dec. 14 Jacksonville (Win)
Dec. 20 @NY Jets (Loss)
Dec. 27 Buffalo (Win)


Miami Schedule (7-4)

Nov. 27 @Dallas (Win)
Dec. 7 @New England (Win)
Dec. 15 Philadelphia (Loss)
Dec. 21 @Buffalo (Win)
Dec. 28 NY Jets (Win)

OK, here is what I see happening:

NE will finsih up either 10-6 or 11-5. They SHOULD beat Jacksonville, and Buffalo (2 Wins). Probable losses to Indy, Miami (that's right) (2 Losses). Toss up - NY Jets.

We CAN finish VERY STRONG!!!! We should beat New England, Buffalo and NY Jets. (3 Wins). Possible losses to either Dallas or Philadelphia (1 loss) - I don't see us losing to both!

We finish tied with NE for first in the Division but we win the Division since we have a better division record.

We need to be optimistic about our chances.

The season is not over............We still have 5 games and we can get this in gear! Two Wins in a row - working on three!

We have all of the players that we started the season with - when EVERYONE had visions of us going to the Superbowl!

Don't quit on this team, and don't lose faith!
 
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why would you think New England will lose 4 or 5 games:lol: :lol: :lol:
Please, get a grip on things....
 
Actually, he predicted the Pats to go 2-3. But at this point that's still a stretch.

As far as the division goes, the Fins' best scenario is to win Thursday (not easy) and hope the Pats lose at Indy (not improbable). At least then Miami will be playing for the division lead 10 days later (yes, Pats would fall to 2nd with a loss). Then it's just a case of who can hang on for three more weeks.

New England has a pretty good lead. It can afford to lose the Miami game and still win the division far more easily than Miami can (for the Fins it's highly unlikely). But until the Mia-NE game is over, and unless the Fins fall three games back this week, the division remains in play.
 
Originally posted by donshula
why would you think New England will lose 4 or 5 games:lol: :lol: :lol:
Please, get a grip on things....

Where did he say that? At most I think he said 3. .

Go re-read it :rolleyes:

I think you were lookin at the rest of your schedule there fella. .
 
Originally posted by Samphin
Its the most wonderful time of the yeeeeeeear!

It is almost that time to make our own heads spin with all the crazy scenarios that are sure to play out. Buckle up boys and girls as we play the wacky NFL Game called PLAYOFF DRIVE!

Ah yes... the head-to-head sweep rule (rendering moot your having beaten a team with which you're tied), searching for a valid set of common opponents, the strength of victory tiebreak...

Can't wait.
 
funny thing is, we saw arrogance like donshula's earlier in the year...from buffalo fans. surely, none of them expected their team to go into a tailspin.
 
Originally posted by NYCphan
The following quick scenarios assume that the AFC South runner-up (Colts/Titans) wins the first wildcard, and that no games end tied. If Miami finishes the season…

5-0: Wildcard assured (obviously, based on current overall records). Also, any Pats loss (besides vs. Miami) gives the Dolphins the AFC East.

4-1: Only Denver can deny us a wildcard, and the Broncos must finish 5-0 in order to do it (but in that case the Broncos would take it, no matter which game we lost). The AFC North runner-up (Bengals/Ravens) cannot finish 5-0, since they play each other again.

3-2: This remains complicated, but here’s a quick rundown. Only Denver or the AFC North runner-up could cost us a wildcard, and only if one or both went 4-1. In this scenario, the outcome still depends on which games each team loses (AFC/NFC). If Denver goes 4-1 with an AFC loss (any of its next four games) then Miami’s three wins would have to come over the Pats, Bills and Jets to have a chance. In that case, If Denver’s loss is to Indy, then Miami is in (via record in ‘common games’); if Denver’s only loss is to the Raiders, Chiefs or Browns, the tiebreak would go to all the way to ‘strength of victory’ (Miami leads, but this changes weekly).

Early warning: Miami’s defeat of Baltimore could be nullified in a 3-way tie with Denver at 10-6 (via the ‘head-to-head sweep’ rule).

Overall, with Denver facing some tough opponents (Colts, Chiefs, Packers in Lambeau) and the AFC North runner-up already guaranteed a sixth loss (barring a tie), Miami looks reasonably good for a wildcard even with a 3-2 finish. But it’s nowhere near guaranteed.

Every game remains critical, but Dallas (as an NFC opponent) is not quite a ‘must-win.’ The season is not yet on the line. Winning Thursday would really put the pressure on New England though, at Indianapolis on Sunday.

Excruciatingly detailed tiebreak scenarios, for those of you who enjoy this sort of thing, will follow next week and thereafter.

good breakdown..but here is another very possible scenario.

A win in Dallas and a NE loss to Indy sets up a game in NE for the top spot in the east.

;)
 
Re: Re: AFC wildcard mini-update (looks good)

Originally posted by FFiB


good breakdown..but here is another very possible scenario.

A win in Dallas and a NE loss to Indy sets up a game in NE for the top spot in the east.

;)

Yes, exactly (see my second post in the thread). Even without picking up a game this weekend (Fins, Pats both lose or both win) we could pull within a game at New England with three to play, and hold the division tiebreak edge.

It's a bit of an outside chance to take the division, but it's not yet a longshot.

By posting the wildcard standings/tiebreaks, I don't mean to imply that it's our only chance for the playoffs. I just thought people would want to keep track of it.
 
After the Dolphins whoop up on the Cowboys this week, we will be in good shape for New England Game with an Extra long week to prepare, Advantage Dolphins, Ricky seems to run better in cold weather, Advantage Dolphins. New England at Home doesn't Matter Dolphins will be on high, and will get throw December 4-0 Division Champs and ready to make a Superbowl run. Fiedler saved our season last week, Mare hit the long field goal before half to allow Fiedler the chance, things are turning around in Miami.
 
Originally posted by philyphin
After the Dolphins whoop up on the Cowboys this week, we will be in good shape for New England Game with an Extra long week to prepare, Advantage Dolphins, Ricky seems to run better in cold weather, Advantage Dolphins. New England at Home doesn't Matter Dolphins will be on high, and will get throw December 4-0 Division Champs and ready to make a Superbowl run. Fiedler saved our season last week, Mare hit the long field goal before half to allow Fiedler the chance, things are turning around in Miami.

i love the way you think, but the dallas game will be tough...and the NE game will be an all out war
 
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