AJ is indeed improving

[jlfin]

No, I think you missed the point. What I'm trying to say is that by your standards not only does every bad quarterback in the history of the game compare to Steve Young, but AJ Feeley also compares to every bad QB in the history of football easily as much as he does Steve Young.

Comparing any 2 QB's at similar junctures in their careers is a fair comparison. Comparing a 1st year starter to a retired veteran going to the HOF is not, because no one can predict the future. I stand by my earlier post.

 

[rafael]

Yep. If I recall, AJ has only been a starter for ONE season. Also I think you miss the point of the comparison. Let me splain it to you. It means that calling a QB a loser or saying he sucks and has no future after ONE sub-par year is premature, and when a team cuts ties with a player after writing him off prematurely, sometimes it can come back to haunt you.
You don't think San Diego would have been kicking themselves if Brees had been traded (at a bargain price) or cut and then had the kind of year he had for another team.
Oops, I think I just compared AJ to Drew Brees

The problem with these comparisons is that stats alone are such a small part of it. Almost every QB has poor stats their first year. That doesn't mean that AJ should be compared to every QB. When I question AJ's potential I don't base it on just last year. I also include what I saw from him at Philly. The glimpses of greatness (I would call it adequate play) that AJ displayed were far fewer during all that time, than they were for Young or even Brees.

 

[vt_dolfan]

Well I remember there was a backlash from many TB fans when Young was traded. The fan sentiment was that QB was not the problem and that Young had a great deal of talent. That was also the sentiment league wide. Young was traded for a 2nd and a 4th. That was after two horrible AJ like statistical seasons. Do you think we could get even a 4th for AJ right now? My point is that the Young/Feeley comparison is way off base. Even with bad stats most people saw that Young was a rare talent. Nobody would put AJ in that category.

Hmm....I wonder how many Philadelphia fans had the viewpoint that Feeley was going to be good. Two of them were good friends of mine...and both stated how we should give the boy time as we are gonna have one heck of a QB.

 

[rafael]

Hmm....I wonder how many Philadelphia fans had the viewpoint that Feeley was going to be good. Two of them were good friends of mine...and both stated how we should give the boy time as we are gonna have one heck of a QB.

I would think Spielman thought so as well. I never thought so based on the two Philly games I watched. I defended (maybe I was just being hopeful) the trade saying that maybe RS saw something in those other games I didn't get to see, but after watching last year I keep seeing the same kind of mistakes I saw him make in Philly. Maybe the light will come on, but I see a QB who will never be anymore productive than Fiedler was and that just isn't good enough.

 

[inFINSible]

I guess YOU'RE A.J.'s biggest fan?:wink:

I thought it was universally accepted. :cooldude:

 

[TARHEEL38]

That's just ignorant. He had quite a few stretches where every pass was money, every play was perfect. But then he'd throw an INT or get sacked for a loss or something. He absolutely showed signs of greatness, and if he cuts down on the bad plays he absolutely can be great.

If Steve Young can be great, ANYONE can be great.

Hey dude, lay off the caffeine. He was just stating his opinion. If anyone is ignorant, it would be someone who thinks that from reading those articles you posted, that AJ has the edge. It sounds MUCH more like Saban is trying to say in a nice way the only reason Gus will get the job is because he is more experienced. As for your statement "He had quite a few strecthes where every pass was money, every play was perfect". Come on, were you watching him in practice?? He threw behind players, over their head, and in the ground in front of them more times than I ever saw him hit a guy in stride. You can't name me one time all year where he hit a guy in stride three plays in a row!!! It never happened.

Maybe he will be better this year, but he has showed NObody, especially Saban, that he is anything other than what he was when we got him. A BACKUP

 

[SCall13]

If you want to harp on how to interpet other's posts, you should not post such a fallacy as this. So after that 15 min in Buffalo, A.J. did not make one more good throw?:shakeno:

Talk about putting words in someones mouth....

But now that you mention it, he didn't make many good throws. In fact he didn't throw many that traveled further than 5-10 yards.

 

[WVECOMMISH1]

<<Draft Profile: Codi McGuire
Weight - 110 pounds
Height - A head bigger than any other kid his age
Position - FULLBACK
NFL Clone - Larry Czonka
Stats -
1,006 yards in 10 games. 12 TD's, 19 P.A.T. scores,
* Excellent vision to the hole. Sets up blocks and breaks tackles. Led team in Pancake Blocks and Big hits. Played as an 8 year old against 9,10, and 11 year olds yet still gained over 1,000 yards rushing. Says: "Yes Sir"...."No Sir" >>

Make sure u don't burn out the kid. Give him a year off football when he is a freshman or in eigth grade it will do him a world of good!

 

[gofins]

BS, I have very little faith in AJ and I wouldn't have drafted a QB either. The draft just didn't work out where any QB was worth the gamble where we were picking.

Well I'm glad you're not the coach.

 

[djfresh47]

Alright Aj Feeley showed glimpses of greatness, but under the same line of thinking Ray Lucas was destined to be a hall of famer after his play with Jets. Ray is out of the league and a "finished" product, but Aj has a chance to develop into perhaps a decent QB. I just wanna know when potential will equal productivity? Rarely do 1st year starters come out and set the world on fire, but while he did look good during some short stretches, he looked like he didn't belong on the field most of the time. The team was bad, the coaching was awful, are great excuses for his play, and i'll believe them to an extent, but some of the blame has to be put on him. Qb's regardless of whether they deserve the praise/criticism are going to get it. I think Gus will win the starting job, but for the long term good of the team it would definately be better for Aj to win the job because of the age factor. Now also because of the age factor if Aj does not improve dramatically this season than he has to be thought of as nothing more than a backup.

 

[Phishstix]

did i drink too much tonite or did somebody actually compare a.j. feeley to steve young? haha, that's pretty funny.

 

[rafael]

Well I'm glad you're not the coach.

I think Saban is more qualified as well, however, this seems like an odd comment since I was basically saying I agreed with Saban's decision not to reach for a QB. At this point Saban has done nothing to demonstrate he has faith in AJ either.

 

[ajfeeleys#1fan]

@CIN L 16-13 21 39 218 53.8 5.59 37 1 2 2 57.4
PIT L 13-3 13 27 137 48.1 5.07 36 0 2 3 32.5
@SEA L 24-17 23 45 229 51.1 5.09 28 1 2 3 54.8
@SF W 24-17 17 33 159 51.5 4.82 25 2 1 1 72.7
BUF L 42-32 25 51 303 49.0 5.94 36 3 5 1 47.7
@DEN L 20-17 17 35 170 48.6 4.86 21 1 1 4 60.4
NE W 29-28 22 35 198 62.9 5.66 21 1 0 4 87.6:wink:
CLE W 10-7 25 43 176 58.1 4.09 18 1 0 2 75

He won 3 of the last 5 games! He had no ints in his last 2 games! He was hurried about every play! He Had impresive throws! His recievers dropped about 15 passes in the last 2 games that were dead on! He had 8td and 7 ints in the last 5 games! He played hurt! He was always in the game! He played in an offensive scheme that was dismal at best! He Showed the progess an inexperienced qb should show! Aj My Boi! He will be the starter! Yes Miami didnt pick a qb in the draft because they went with the best available player! Nick Saban did say that Gus had the advantage! But who has more confidense in Aj than his teamates! More Respect that his teamates! Aj Feeley will be a very good qb in this league and his will, ambition, heart, spirit, leadrship, and love for the game will show this this year!
Brees in 2003- 11tds, 15ints
Feeley in 2004-11tds, 15ints
Simular? I think so!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MDFINFAN]

Funny as I'm reading more of you guys responses, I'm also watching AJ throw that pass to Thompson to beat the Pats, that was a gimpse of greatness..LOL.
Now back to the current discussion. At this point AJ has not shown what he could be, and perhaps has shown his worst under the conditions he play in last year. While rewatching his games, his bad passes came under pressure, with the exception of 2. While looking at his games, he seemed nervous when he went back to pass..yea I can't blame him, just about each time he planted his foot to throw, someone was in his face. Thats the comparison to Young, he had the same problem with the buc's the first 2 years, no OL..it does make a different in QB play. Even looking at cool Brady, when he was getting pressure his decision making wasn't as good as we're use to seeing. That said, I can't really predict what AJ's future will be, but I do see something in him that tells me that if we wait a while, we might see some really exciting football...we may at times be reminded of Dan. I think if everyone stays healthy, he has the skill players, now it on the OL to hold up, then we can assess AJ, right now I didn't get enough from last year to made a good or bad judgement. He was under pressure too much. But I think that fire in hell will help him this year, especially if he gets more than 2 seconds to throw.

 

[ajfeeleys#1fan]

My point exactly md! I just love the heart in the guy! the passion for the game is spectacular! Cant wait for this season!!!!!