Ajayi has been traded to Eagles for a 4th round pick

[Zounds]

That’s a fair point the best example is probably Howard but let me counter with each of those teams either have a qb or a unit be it defense for example that is better than miamis.

The exception being chicago where trubisky is already better than any qb we have fielded this year

Anderson in Denver suffers from qb and oline play but that d is legit and he’s splitting carries

In Jax the d is carrying that team and allowing them to hide the qb and live with the run game due to the scoreboard

Most of these backs can consistently wiggle 3 or 4 yards even against a stacked box. I just don't see that with Ajayi.

Again, not saying Ajayi is a bad back, he's just a different kind of back and I'm not sure he was a perfect fit for us. I think he will be better in the Pederson offense paired with Blount. I'm just worried about Ajayis replacement.

 

[Sirspud]

And my only real counter here would be do you think Ajayi with tanny here averages that same 3.6 per?

Consider that tanny threw the ball at a full 2 yards per attempt clip over these current qb options

The difference between 5 and 7.5 effects more than just the pass game

People just want to look at the stats in a vacuum and justify things and not realize how much his performance was affected by QB play, line play, and predictable play calls. I guess it's their brain's way of helping them deal with the shock of the Dolphins losing their best player from the year previous in what is a pretty dreadful time.

Every Ricky Williams followed up his 1,800 yard campaign averaging 3.5 YPC when defenses stacked against him week in and week out and the team called games predictably.

 

[Geordie]

I'm still trying to get over this, a 4th roiund pick is terrible value, I can understand them cashing in on him if they haven't got the line to make him effective and he is apparently an issue in the locker room, but a 4th round pick for a pro bowler a year ago, that is still very young, come on. They seem to get screwed a lot by the Eagles in trades.

 

[Zounds]

Gurley? What a horrible example. He didn't have a single 100 yard game last year. Fournette? He's had three good games and three meh or terrible ones. Not consistent and at any rate there is scarcely a track record to go on and teams don't have enough of an idea of his NFL game to scheme against.

Guess you didnt read my whole post. Here's the rest of it:

And I'm not just talking consistency in production, I'm also talking consistency in how they play.

You'd have to watch them play to know that part, not just read the box score.

 

[Sirspud]

I thought it was more complicated than that. I'm glad there are only two types.

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Guess you didnt read my whole post. Here's the rest of it:



You'd have to watch them play to know that part, not just read the box score.

That's not good enough to win an argument and you should know it. You've listed a guy like CJ Anderson as a beacon of consistency whereas his own team has only infrequently trusted him with the lion's share of carries (and last year when they did he wasn't even effective). I don't care how an RB looks, a guy like Gurley who spent a whole year without a 100 yard game is not consistently unless he's consistently not good. And if you want to attribute his struggles last year to QB play, you have to do the same for Ajayi this year.

Your post based on "how a guy looks" rather than stats when you are listing guys that are inconsistent too just reeks of the "grass is always greener".

In this day and age, RB performance is highly inconsistent across the board. The one thing that is consistent is that when you have a guy who rips off three 200 yard games in a single season, the opposing defense will have to focus on him every single week. That's your consistency.

 

[BigNastyFish]

First and foremost -- this "team" has obvious fundamental issues -- and the fact that we hit on a 5th rounder who produced just a year ago as a 1st rounder
and is now discarded for a bottom of the barrel 4th rounder tells you everything you need to know. Forget the x and o football dweeb crap -- I mean seriously
grow up -- that junk doesn't prove you know wtf you're yapping about!

Point is -- you cannot build a team when you're consistently rebuilding it and never producing a finished product. Beyond that -- no way Ajayi alone is the reason
this offense sucks -- and consistently produces at the bottom of the pack. Year after year -- we have fundamental structural issues @OL. Year after year we have
questions @QB with no viable "upside" in the developmental mode. Year after year -- we draft "racehorses" that are either unsound or just impress in terms of workouts and calisthenics.

That's ALL FO level basics. Go back to the gory days of this franchise -- Joe Thomas and Bobby Beathard ---- that's where it ALL starts.

Tbum sucks. And who hired him? The clown (Ross) who also hired Gase. Like the say in a sewer -- $hit flows done the pipe.

 

[Zounds]

In this day and age, RB performance is highly inconsistent across the board.

Again, you are looking at RB's numbers (which reflect how defenses play), but I'm looking at how RB plays independent from how a defense is playing. You would need to know this if you were to determine if the RB left yards on the field, or if the defense took yards off the field. Please take your preaching to a church.

 

[finmann]

First time poster here but long time reader..I am not happy about the trade. I think it makes no sense and signals the beginning of the end of the Gase era

Unlikely, Gase is well liked by the owner. Welcome to the show by the way.

 

[Bufeo]

Well....part of me is ecstatic....because I have $2000 on the Eagles to win the NFC at 25-1:happy.....and Ajayi will carve behind their O-line ...even with Peters out.
The other part of me is like Gtfoh.....why would the Dolphins do this?!

I will mention here a reason that i haven't seen mentioned.......this may be done at least partly to help Ajayi. i.e Gase knows that Jay only has a year or two at the most, with his knees.....and by trading him to the Eagles he gets a shot at a ring.....and something to show for a shortened NFL career!

If that is the case then all credit to Gase.....and he will get no end of respect from the players for doing it.....the opposite to what some people are suggesting!

 

[royalshank]

For comparison, when Ricky retired we traded a 3rd rounder for a Rams backup RB.

This franchise is pathetic.

Not just any backup. The 3rd string guy - Lamar Gordon. He played one game for us, looked horrible, and then promptly blew out his knee end of career. We can really spot them can't we?

 

[royalshank]

Well....part of me is ecstatic....because I have $2000 on the Eagles to win the NFC at 25-1:happy.....and Ajayi will carve behind their O-line ...even with Peters out.
The other part of me is like Gtfoh.....why would the Dolphins do this?!

I will mention here a reason that i haven't seen mentioned.......this may be done at least partly to help Ajayi. i.e Gase knows that Jay only has a year or two at the most, with his knees.....and by trading him to the Eagles he gets a shot at a ring.....and something to show for a shortened NFL career!

If that is the case then all credit to Gase.....and he will get no end of respect from the players for doing it.....the opposite to what some people are suggesting!

I like your odds of becoming $50,000 richer. Not sold on the trade theory though :)

 

[Vaark]

I understand that old adage that "if you listen to the fans, you're gonna end up sitting with them," but I gotta say, I've been on a number of opposing team fans forums and the general consensus is that Philly stole Jay and why didn't their teams get in on it. A number of "commentators" feel the same way.

I also am aware that there might have been extenuating circumstances resulting in his trading, BUT come on now, I can't believe that a run hungry team would not have at least ponied up a 3rd, or a 4th and a player or another draft pick. I wouldn't trust "Trader Mike" to negotiate a parking ticket, let alone a player transaction.

 

[BlueFin]

According to Bokamper.... Jay became a prima Donna after last year's success.

The kid was always trying to hit the home run versus taking what was there...he wasn't blocking well, wasn't catching well...wasn't doing what he was told to do.

And finally...couldn't practice because of the knee...bone on bone.

And....he was gonna want big time money next year.

I think they decided all things considered that go ahead and get a pick for him.

Gase wants his backs to be factors in the passing game.

 

[Jerrysanders]

 

[Jerrysanders]

Benjamin hasn't been a good WR.

He's been studying Brian Hartline's game film.