Allen Vs Tua

[Jamesw]

So from 1983 to 2001 when we were winning playoff games and division titles you were satisfied with that? Winning playoff games but never winning a SB is as lame as having sex but never coming. What’s the freaking point?

Don't bring your bedroom frustrations here bro. Joking. We need some humor.

 

[kevin0914]

Allen owns us. Unfortunately, he only gets to play us twice a year. Vs the rest of the league, he was not good this year. Outside of 1 really exciting playoff game in which he lost wtf has Allen done?

He’s only the first qb in nfl history to get 40 plus tds in five straight seasons. If he was on the dolphins we win the superbowl easy.

 

[joenhre]

Allen put up 14 points vs an injury riddled defense. This game was more a failure of McDaniel, Tua and the Dolphins offense to show up in the 2nd half. Yet there are people still defending them.

 

[Bridgeburner]

I've been playing a mental game.. if you switch QBs and you have Allen / McDaniel and have Tua / McDermott.. who has the better year?

The Bills offensive line has been healthy and good, but fired a coordinator mid-season and have Joe Brady from Matt Rhule's disaster tenure with Panthers. Miami has a lot more receiving talent, but the offensive line has been injured and suspect.

 

[bigfoot]

Allen threw a touchdown pass off a Dolphins helmet that flopped 50 feet in the air into a waiting receivers arms. He's amazing!

 

[Inigo Montoya]

The NFL is a QB driven league and right now Josh Allen is the best QB in the division.

For years we all watched Brady dominate the AFCE and will the Pats to victory and now it's Josh Allen doing the same. Tua is a solid NFL QB, and by all accounts a great guy, but he just can't go toe to toe with Allen. They're just on different levels.

The Phins need to decide if they can build up the supporting cast around Tua more to mitigate the advantage Allen gives the Bills, or if they need to go back to the QB well and hope for lighting to strike.

 

[Springveldt]

Allen is built for the AFC East. You need a specimen in this division. Always have always will. Set the tone for your franchise. Tua is built for the ESPYs.

Yeah cause Tom Brady was quite the specimen. Where do people pull this **** from?

 

[Springveldt]

He’s only the first qb in nfl history to get 40 plus tds in five straight seasons. If he was on the dolphins we win the superbowl easy.

How many TD's do his running backs have? He steals all their TD's, like Hurts in Philadelphia.

 

[DrH238]

The bills were good enough to win the division. A team is more than just 1 player. One day you’ll learn that.

Then how can you say “outside of one exciting playoff game, which HE lost” but I can’t say a game he won???

 

[superphin]

Then how can you say “outside of one exciting playoff game, which HE lost” but I can’t say a game he won???

Yeah you’re right.

 

[Durango2020]

Allen is a true QB and any team would be lucky to have him. Dolphins fan who think he sucks are only fooling themselves.

 

[flynryan15]

I will make it easy for you. If Allen was on the trade market he would command multiple first and other high picks. If Tua was on the trade market he might get you a first, but most likely a second round pick and a fee other low rounders.

 

[phinfan3411]

Quick how did Allen look without Diggs. 13 seconds from a woulda should coulda. The Bills were a FG away from a SB win vs the Giants I’m sure they look back fondly on that.

I wonder if it’s even worth trying to reason with someone like you.

It’s pretty simple between Allen and Tua. One is a huge athletic freak and one certainly isn’t. One needs an offense built around in cutting routes, between the numbers while ignoring outside the numbers, for some reason (lol), to be effective and the other can still win if absolutely nothing else is working.

Quick what did Tua look like without Tyreek who is MUCH better than Diggs the head case?

 

[BEANTOWNFINFAN]

When the pocket collapses for Allen and he's scrambling around I say "damn, he's going to toast us". When the pocket collapses for Tua and he scrambling (cough cough) I say "damn, he's going to toast us". On the face these sound the same but reality is they are very different.

 

[DOLFAN_51]

What has Tua done?

Other than look good at Alabama (who doesn't?) and win the NC there. Great! How's that help our team?

My god, really? He looks pretty good to me, without Hill and Waddle. Played absolute Lights out in 2021, 13 seconds from a probable Super Bowl championship

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Allen has also had a top 4 defense every season except one. Multiple top 2 defenses. That makes playing QB a lot easier. And their win percentages are almost identical. Do you think Tua might have won a few more games with a top defense? I know he would. But I don’t think you would admit it.