Well those weren't some inspiring clips sons... however, I recall your thread on him from months ago.... I'm just holding out hope for average enough
Well those weren't some inspiring clips sons... however, I recall your thread on him from months ago.... I'm just holding out hope for average enough
Good post...
You can't really take the Albert dead money as a comparable factor for Larsens IMO simply because it has just as much effect on Tunsil and unexpectedly getting him last year, and moving him to his natural position. We'd be keeping Albert this year if we didn't get Tunsil last year. Larsens was a smart business move as well as from a personnel/talent standpoint when you consider his durability/consistency and in relation to his salary. So Larsens vs Albert is not really a fair judgement in terms of considering the dead money, I look at the Larsens and Albert moves in separate vacuums and consider both good decisions.
And in respect to what I bolded - we couldn't do anything about the center position. I take that back - we could have drafted a prospect at center in a late round but that would have been basically the only way to reasonably address the center position this year. We were not in a position to make any move for Pouncey this year in any way, so they basically had to leave that position alone. If you consider that, we did address both guard positions reasonably - adding Larsens who will do just fine and adding a prospect guard in Asiata.
Those weren't glamorous moves, nor was the Bushrod resign, but they were reasonable moves and pragmatic in my opinion.
There are those among us who think Larsen was actually brought in because they were uncertain about Pouncey ... not really to compete at guard. When we signed Larsen the main thing he said about himself was that he has versatility to play all 3 interior positions including center. He knows he may be asked to start at center.
I agree building through FA isn't sustainable. Just ask the Redskins of old. But we're talking about 2 positions here. 2 positions that have derailed seasons for years. 2 positions that are among the easiest fixes on the entire team. It should've happened by sheer chance by now.
How many high draft picks you feel like wasting for 2 positions a drunk baby could fix in free agency? How many seasons of watching the QB get killed before someone decides that approach isn't working?
It's cool, we can always revisit this conversation around this time next year. No urgency necessary. It's not like the QB had a scary knee injury or anything ...
Good stuff on larsen . Would Mangold help?Not saying Steen is the answer but Larsen isn't athletic enough to warrant playing Center IMO.
The depth chart for the interior 3 are nothing more jumbled scrabble tiles on a place card for the time being. Bushrod is the main name I don't want to see scribbled in the starting lineup, but Larsen and Asiata aren't necessarily fit for the zone run game either.
Branden Albert let Campbell end Ryan's season, maybe that's why he is in Jacksonville.
I love the idea of curbing the convo till a later date. It's just funny to me we haven't seen these guys line up yet, but fans here have Pouncey out for the season, and our guards being matadors. The fact is in his first season under Gase Ryan got sacked 17x less than than his best season prior. Let's just wait till August before we freak out.
Hopefully we sign mangold or someone else after the teams trim the rosters. Not like there's gonna be much out there though at this point.I'm worried about our OL. I have a low amount of faith in Bushrod's run blocking, low faith in Larsen in general, and am increasingly worried about Pouncey's health. At best we can describe James' play as a mixed bag.
Tunsil is the only one I'm confident about. I have hope for Asiata, but depending on a 5th round rookie to save an OL doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
We should have spent some money on at least one interior OL in free agency. I said it last year. I said it at the beginning, middle and end of this off-season. And I continue to be both amazed and frustrated in our inability to properly address this problem. Fingers crossed.
Hopefully we sign mangold or someone else after the teams trim the rosters. Not like there's gonna be much out there though at this point.
Thanks, but I figured it might be PFF. I wouldn't get your hopes up based on theircrapanalysis. Larsen will hopefully remain unnoticeable and that's probably the best case scenario we can hope to get from him.
It's just funny to me we haven't seen these guys line up yet, but fans here have Pouncey out for the season, and our guards being matadors. The fact is in his first season under Gase Ryan got sacked 17x less than than his best season prior.
Great so the coach saw the talent on the team and utilized to the best of his ability, and the result was 13 sacks in the final 11 games, Tannehill being sacked the least amount in his career, and playoff spot. That has been my exact point this entire thread. If he can get the group he had last year to produce those numbers I think he can do it with this group as well. The fewest sacks in Ryan's career + his highest ypa in his career, oh the most yards from a RB in 10+ years, in year one as coach, and its safe to say most players get better as they get more familiar with the scheme.A better balance in run/pass ratio and playcalling was a major factor that led to that more than the line itself. We were one of the leaders in the NFL in screen plays as w were 2nd in the league for the highest amount of screens used.
Here's a thread on that subject: http://finheaven.com/threads/we-are-a-terrible-screen-pass-team.339662/