Any statments of the officiating Sunday?

[tay0365]

watch the slow mo replay. he sees #61 going to try to pick it up and he bats it away, EASY call.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013102703/2013/REG8/dolphins@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap

I am not sure what you guys are watching. watch around the 3 minute mark of the video.

I think you need to watch the video again, as he is falling in slow motion, he closes the hand as if trying to grab the ball, if he were to trying to slap it away, he does not close his hand, but with the open hand slaps it away...thanks for proving the point something very underhanded was up.

 

[The New Guy]

watch the slow mo replay. he sees #61 going to try to pick it up and he bats it away, EASY call.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013102703/2013/REG8/dolphins@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap

I am not sure what you guys are watching. watch around the 3 minute mark of the video.

go to the clip on just that play, they have the announcer reaction and Simms says it was "blatant" b/c it was. seeing those angles, there is no way you can call that any other way.

I've seen it a ton of times. Vernon was closer to the ball than #61 was. The problem was he was tripping over Brady on the way to the ball. The arm extension and coming back to his body would be the same whether he was trying to bring it in, or bat it. There is no way to tell that he was obviously trying to bat it and not recover it. Simms saw it one way and Nantz saw it the other way. I really don't care what Simms says since he is wrong.

NE has been struggling though, maybe 10 wins can win the division? we have a 2-1 div record. I don't think we will but you never know and NE has dominated all of us for a long time, I enjoy when you guys lose but when NE loses it is special b/c it doesn't happen as often as Miami.

You don't truly believe the Jets will win 10 games, do you? I don't even think you thought that after the NE win, which is why you posted that bit about the WC and staying ahead of Miami. It makes sense. Rooting for a Pats loss so the Jets can win the division does not.

I agree with your last sentence and feel the exact same way. :D

 

[Trucanes99]

I might be biased considering I'm a fins fans, but I try my best to be objective.

I can see why you would think it was intentional. But there are plenty of non fins fans who would argue that it didn't look intentional. For this very reason, a no call would have been the correct call.

 

[nyjunc]

I think you need to watch the video again, as he is falling in slow motion, he closes the hand as if trying to grab the ball, if he were to trying to slap it away, he does not close his hand, but with the open hand slaps it away...thanks for proving the point something very underhanded was up.

I watched it multiple times, it couldn't be any clearer, he bats it away from #61 of the Pats.

I've seen it a ton of times. Vernon was closer to the ball than #61 was. The problem was he was tripping over Brady on the way to the ball. The arm extension and coming back to his body would be the same whether he was trying to bring it in, or bat it. There is no way to tell that he was obviously trying to bat it and not recover it. Simms saw it one way and Nantz saw it the other way. I really don't care what Simms says since he is wrong.






You don't truly believe the Jets will win 10 games, do you? I don't even think you thought that after the NE win, which is why you posted that bit about the WC and staying ahead of Miami. It makes sense. Rooting for a Pats loss so the Jets can win the division does not.

I agree with your last sentence and feel the exact same way. :D

the ball was going away from Vernon, #61 was in position to potentially fall on it and Vernon batted it forward so he couldn't. easy call.

Do I think we win 10? No, is it possible? sure. This season reminds me a bit of 2006 and no one expected us to win 10 that year either. even w/ a loss Sunday to fall to 4-5 we have don't have a game we would be a big underdog in the rest of the year and every game is winnable. The likelihood is we win 7-8 but you never know.

 

[nyjunc]

I don't always agree w/ Pereira but...

Mike Pereira ‏@MikePereira 27 Oct
The batting play in NE is clear to me. #50 illegally bats it forward which you can't do. That is a penalty and correctly ruled.

Mike Pereira ‏@MikePereira 27 Oct
That was a great call by the officials in NE. Tough call and made correctly.

 

[tay0365]

I watched it multiple times, it couldn't be any clearer, he bats it away from #61 of the Pats.

I guess you see what you want to see, as DolfanDave, it's easy to see how you can think it's intentional, being Jets fan does not help, but he is falling, and is closing his hand, is very obvious he trying to get the ball, but the force of him falling make it look like he was swatting the ball away.

The best scenario is to get the ball for Miami, he is the closest man to the ball, but he is going to swat the ball away. Even if at any point he ever thought about swatting it away, he was falling he had someone falling on top of him, that call is NEVER EVER made, at the very least, it should have been a no call, because a case can be made either way (A weak one him swatting it away, but...), they decide to on top of getting the call wrong, they penalize Miami instead.

This is getting old, and your Jets Bias is very evident, think what you want, You know very well we got hosed in a huge way, you would not have felt very happy if it happened to your team, and I have a feeling deep down inside, you know what really happened.

 

[The New Guy]

I don't always agree w/ Pereira but...

Mike Pereira ‏@MikePereira 27 Oct
The batting play in NE is clear to me. #50 illegally bats it forward which you can't do. That is a penalty and correctly ruled.

Mike Pereira ‏@MikePereira 27 Oct
That was a great call by the officials in NE. Tough call and made correctly.

You quoting Pereira is pretty funny. You did everything you could to try and discredit Pereira when it came to a call that you didn't agree with. But...

I would ask Mike the same question I asked you. How is it clear? What would he have done differently had he been trying to bring the ball in? The rule against batting requires intent, because batting happens only with intent. His intent is not clear either way which is why it was a bad call.

 

[nyjunc]

I guess you see what you want to see, as DolfanDave, it's easy to see how you can think it's intentional, being Jets fan does not help, but he is falling, and is closing his hand, is very obvious he trying to get the ball, but the force of him falling make it look like he was swatting the ball away.

The best scenario is to get the ball for Miami, he is the closest man to the ball, but he is going to swat the ball away. Even if at any point he ever thought about swatting it away, he was falling he had someone falling on top of him, that call is NEVER EVER made, at the very least, it should have been a no call, because a case can be made either way (A weak one him swatting it away, but...), they decide to on top of getting the call wrong, they penalize Miami instead.

This is getting old, and your Jets Bias is very evident, think what you want, You know very well we got hosed in a huge way, you would not have felt very happy if it happened to your team, and I have a feeling deep down inside, you know what really happened.

The only bias is your phins homer bias, I have no bias in that I hate both teams and want neither to win so if it was a bad call I'd say so. It was an easy call, crystal clear.

You quoting Pereira is pretty funny. You did everything you could to try and discredit Pereira when it came to a call that you didn't agree with. But...

I would ask Mike the same question I asked you. How is it clear? What would he have done differently had he been trying to bring the ball in? The rule against batting requires intent, because batting happens only with intent. His intent is not clear either way which is why it was a bad call.

I don't always agree w/ him but I do here. There's no grey area, it's an easy call. They got it right. how is it clear? watch the clip, he knocks it forward to keep it away from #61 of the Pats. Notice how nowhere else is this play a controversy? last week w/ the correct call on the FG attempt it was still a huge story yet no one is talking about this play outside of here- I wonder why that is?

 

[Trucanes99]

So, if all else remains the same, yet no pats player is remotely close to the loose ball, is it still "crystal clear" that he was batting the ball backwards?

 

[iwastherein1972]

The NFL's bias against the Dolphins has nothing to do with a new stadium, or lack thereof.

I'll simply say that they DO NOT like the fact that Ryan Tannehill is our starting QB. Does not fit their mold for the franchise.

 

[retarmyfinfan]

As long as fans keep paying to watch the game nothing will ever happen. Only when the NFL sees bad calls cost them income will there be a change. How many people are going to quit watching football to force a change? Anybody here? Exactly. Get used to it then because it won't go away unless you force it to. I used to be a die-hard Cubs fan, but when people started hitting 500 home runs a year because they were juiced up to no end, I decided it wasn't fun anymore to watch. Last time I watched a baseball game Sammy Sosa and McGuire were still playing. Starting to get that "it ain't fun to watch anymore" feeling when you have a couple of Zebras making way to many game changing calls. There is no way they can get every call right but some are just down right ridiculous. Anyways, I didn't watch the last game, know for a fact I won't watch the Bengals game and don't have the "Can't wait till Sunday" feeling anymore. I would surprised if I watched another game this year. Call me what you want or give me a million thumbs down, it's just not fun to watch right now.

 

[nyjunc]

So, if all else remains the same, yet no pats player is remotely close to the loose ball, is it still "crystal clear" that he was batting the ball backwards?

but a Pats player was there going for the ball when it was batted away.

The NFL's bias against the Dolphins has nothing to do with a new stadium, or lack thereof.

I'll simply say that they DO NOT like the fact that Ryan Tannehill is our starting QB. Does not fit their mold for the franchise.

If there is a bias I guess it makes up for all the years Shula was on the competition committee and you got away w/ everything?

 

[Trucanes99]

but a Pats player was there going for the ball when it was batted away.



If there is a bias I guess it makes up for all the years Shula was on the competition committee and you got away w/ everything?

if this is the only distinction you're using to "prove" that he batted the ball away "intentionally", then you have a very poor case. With that logic, I'm glad you're not a ref (not that the current officiating could get any worse, but you get my point)

 

[Trucanes99]

so any player who unsuccessfully recovers a fumble and knocks the ball an inch or more backwards (with an opposing player within 2 yards of said recovery attempt) should get that penalty called on them every time? Last time I checked, that's not how the rule is written in the rule book.

 

[Dthrill_08]

There were some bad calls, but the guys on the field decided the game. Refs will always make mistakes, players have to overcome it. The Dolphins had plenty of chances to win that game, but they fell apart.

Wrong. We lost 27-17. The PI cost us a Td so did the holding on Patterson it was another 7 points. Add the Fumble and swatting by Vernon 3 points. We would of won without scoring anything. 17-10 would've been the score.