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Apparently at the interview yesterday the Bucs Hickey hit one out of the park

Again I'm going to sound like a broken record, but sometimes a slam dunk candidate on paper is anything but a slam dunk candidate. Read how excited everybody here was when we signed Bill Parcells.

And as I look back at the Parcells time, he was not completely wrong with everything. He understood you need a stout defense to stop the run. He understood that on offense, you have to have a running game or you're dead in the water. He passed on Matt Ryan, which in retrospect, was not a mistake because Ryan is not elite imo, and never will be. We had a lot of youth. We should have slowly rebuilt and had great drafts. Instead, Pennington unexpectedly popped in our lap and created wins we wouldn't have had otherwise, and we slid down in the draft. Then the wildcat racked up a bunch of wins. With these artificial wins, it set back the franchise.

The good thing about firing Ireland and his staff is that we have a new start. Ireland hired a bunch of FA players on the offense because he had to save his job. Spent a bunch of money. It didn't work out for him, and now we have a new start.
 
Please note that I qualified my statement by saying "From where I am sitting it appears". The statement is a conclusion drawn from the same publicly available sources that anyone on this board can read. Now how did I reach my conclusion:

a. Teams generally want to have new GMs and head scouts in place before the Shrine game and the Senior Bowl. Not having the position filled before these games puts the new GM at a serious disadvantage in his first draft.
b. The Dolphins have now interviewed more candidates than is usually the case in a GM search.
c. There are published reports that people who should have no part of a GM search (Dawn Aponte) are involved in the process.
d. Ross has publicly stated that the new GM will not have the power to fire/hire a head coach.

My logic:

a. Candidates who are exceptional already know that they are exceptional.
b. These candidates also know that they will have more than one opportunity in the future to receive an offer for a GM position.
c. Truly exceptional candidates can afford to turn down a job if the situation is not optimal for their success.
d. The Dolphins have exceeded the normal amount of time and candidates interviewed for this type of position.

This implies that either :

(1) The Dolphins have failed to interview an exceptional candidate for the position,
(2) The Dolphins have interviewed an exceptional candidate but have failed to identify that candidate as exceptional,
(3) Exceptional candidates for the position are not making themselves available to be interviewed,
(4) The internal politics of the Dolphins front office have made it impossible for the organization to agree on a candidate and make an offer, or
(5) None of the exceptional candidates that have been identified and have had discussions about an offer have been willing to take the job under its current political constraints.

Viewing the various options above I judge option 5 to be most likely.

Well put.
 
Please note that I qualified my statement by saying "From where I am sitting it appears". The statement is a conclusion drawn from the same publicly available sources that anyone on this board can read. Now how did I reach my conclusion:

a. Teams generally want to have new GMs and head scouts in place before the Shrine game and the Senior Bowl. Not having the position filled before these games puts the new GM at a serious disadvantage in his first draft.
b. The Dolphins have now interviewed more candidates than is usually the case in a GM search.
c. There are published reports that people who should have no part of a GM search (Dawn Aponte) are involved in the process.
d. Ross has publicly stated that the new GM will not have the power to fire/hire a head coach.

My logic:

a. Candidates who are exceptional already know that they are exceptional.
b. These candidates also know that they will have more than one opportunity in the future to receive an offer for a GM position.
c. Truly exceptional candidates can afford to turn down a job if the situation is not optimal for their success.
d. The Dolphins have exceeded the normal amount of time and candidates interviewed for this type of position.

This implies that either :

(1) The Dolphins have failed to interview an exceptional candidate for the position,
(2) The Dolphins have interviewed an exceptional candidate but have failed to identify that candidate as exceptional,
(3) Exceptional candidates for the position are not making themselves available to be interviewed,
(4) The internal politics of the Dolphins front office have made it impossible for the organization to agree on a candidate and make an offer, or
(5) None of the exceptional candidates that have been identified and have had discussions about an offer have been willing to take the job under its current political constraints.

Viewing the various options above I judge option 5 to be most likely.

The only flaw in this is that you are drawing information from sources who have proven to
be wrong more times than right. Garbage in, garbage out.
 
The only flaw in this is that you are drawing information from sources who have proven to
be wrong more times than right. Garbage in, garbage out.

You are of course correct that the available information may be wrong. Unfortunately I have no insider information to counter bad public information. I can only draw conclusions based on the information that is available now. Should that information change I reserve the right to change my conclusions.
 
Does anyone seriously have ANY faith that Steve Ross has a damn clue as to who or what we should hire as a GM?? I know I don't and have talked to a lot of other people who don't either.

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Remember, Ross thought Sparano would be a great coach and thought Ireland was a great GM.
 
Does anyone seriously have ANY faith that Steve Ross has a damn clue as to who or what we should hire as a GM?? I know I don't and have talked to a lot of other people who don't either.

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Remember, Ross thought Sparano would be a great coach and thought Ireland was a great GM.
I believe that Ross is a smart guy and understands the art of a business decision making process.
I believe that he has see what DOESN'T work and can adjust accordingly.

Until the hire is proven to be a screw up, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to believe a person can make good and bad
choices, especially when it comes to personnel. I'll choose to be positive
about the process until I have reason to. I have seen no reason to be yet.
 
I don't care who we hire as gm, as long as the first order of business is to call dez Bryant and ask him if his momma is a whore!

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Does anyone seriously have ANY faith that Steve Ross has a damn clue as to who or what we should hire as a GM?? I know I don't and have talked to a lot of other people who don't either.

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Remember, Ross thought Sparano would be a great coach and thought Ireland was a great GM.

Wayne Huizenga was still running the show when Parcells, Sparano and Ireland were appointed.
Stephen Ross is the biggest real estate developer in New York City and has the biggest single development taking place in the country. He is a self made billionaire who started his career as a corporate tax attorney in Detroit and worked his way up by making good decisions and good appointments. Over the past decade he has donated over $200M to Michigan University, his alma mater. In the course of the past 6 years, he has progressively learned from some mistakes as an owner. However, before rushing for the cyanide capsules or slashing wrists over the next disaster, why don't we wait and observe who he appoints. Our owner is a very great man who has enjoyed levels of success that most of us cannot comprehend. He is approaching the GM appointment in a thorough way and has Carl Peterson and others as key advisors in this process. I'm an optimist by nature but I'm pretty confident that he will make a good appointment.
 
Does anyone seriously have ANY faith that Steve Ross has a damn clue as to who or what we should hire as a GM?? I know I don't and have talked to a lot of other people who don't either.

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Remember, Ross thought Sparano would be a great coach and thought Ireland was a great GM.

It's a fair point, and Ross concerns me as well, but from the information we've all been reading and the candidates that have reportedly been interviewed so far he appears to be doing a lot of leg work this time around.

Bringing up Sparano and Ireland IMO does not automatically strengthen the thought that Ross will never get it right. IMO it could support the thought that he may in fact learn from his past mistakes. But it's a fair thought to be reserved when it concerns Ross. But there's nothing any of us can do about our owner, he is what he is. I'm just thankful he's not Jerry freaking Jones.
 
I'm an optimist by nature but I'm pretty confident that he will make a good appointment.

You had me until you said this. Most of the members of this board are by nature overly optimistic about everything the team does. Most of the time reality has proven their oversized optimism to be wrong. If you really want to persuade me that you are right, show me pessimists who agree with your arguments. For the last fifteen years it has been the pessimists who have proven to have credible opinions born out by reality.
 
I don't care who we hire as gm, as long as the first order of business is to call dez Bryant and ask him if his momma is a whore!

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Or he could do like Mangini, and come in, then proceed to **** on and alienate everyone in the
organization that has ever meant anything to said organization, post a .411 winning % and be
known as the worst hire in a generally low caliber organization in 25 years.
 
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