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I'll say this about the usage of the word "mafia". It means nothing to no one other then the person reading it. If it means nothing to you, no biggie. I'm German and I've been called a nazi many times in jest, but it still is offensive to me to a point. But now call me another racial slur or what not, I could care less.

I've seen people get upset when someone called Fieder "Jew Fiedler". They got all bent out of shape. Well boys, Jay is in fact Jewish. So how is that wrong? Because of the way it was used.

So what means one thing to you, means another to me. So yes, I can see how the usage of "Fiedler Mafia" could be offensive. And I also see this simple term being used to divide members of this board into a us versus them. Just like on the DD board or over on the Miami Herald board. This board is about the Dolphins. How many members of this board have migrated here from other boards just to get away from this sort of thing? I am one of them.

Originally posted by Adphinistrator87
Because they are a tight group who stick together. It's straight out of my abridged dictionary, and therefore cannot be considered racial, as it applies to every nationality.
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When you create a term to call a group of people, you thus seperate them from others. Saying "Fiedler Mafia" to distinguish persons is no different then saying "spic" to define a group of hispanics, n*gger to define a group of african Americans, etc. According to what the abridged dictionary says, those terms also define a tight group that sticks together. But they also mean more then that. They are used to divide, divide them from you. It seperates. And that my friends is what is wrong with it.

My vote it to filter it, or at least remove any and all postings that attempt to "group" people into such factions. And also, if we're allowed to call persons part of the mafia, then I should also be allowed to say someone is a "RW Nazi" because their opinion on Ricky. While its a different word, I'm still giving it the same meaning.

Ok, long enough. Back to the salt mine.
 
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A Slur??

I apologize if I seem callous or insensative. But I feel that no matter what you say......it's going to offend someone.

The word "mafia" IS NOT a slur. It is NOT like the "n"-word. Just the sound of that word brings up extreme emotion and aggression.

Would you ever see the word "N*gg**" used as a mainstream movie title?? NO

But in 1998, we saw a goofaball comedy called "Mafia" starring Lloyd Bridges and Jay Mohr. Was anyone up in arms?? NO

As an Italian, I'm sure that this person has heard all the slurs directed towards Italians. And "mafia" ain't one of the ones you think of.

Again, I hope I don't sound callous. And I know that the results of this thread are only causing this poster more grief. But I feel that this poster is a little off base.
 
Originally posted by IceStorm

When you create a term to call a group of people, you thus seperate them from others. Saying "Fiedler Mafia" to distinguish persons is no different then saying "spic" to define a group of hispanics, n*gger to define a group of african Americans, etc.
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"Fiedler Mafia" is not nor was ever intended to belittle, disrespect, anger, or intimidate anyone.

The two words you mentioned, in fact, do.
 
I personally don't consider it a 'racial' slur. but i am alos not Italian. If i were maybe i would think it was a 'racial' slur. I say if this person is a regular member, make him happy and ban it.
 
Originally posted by Bobby Humphrey
I personally don't consider it a 'racial' slur. but i am alos not Italian. If i were maybe i would think it was a 'racial' slur. I say if this person is a regular member, make him happy and ban it.
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For christ sakes people! Are we a bunch of rich women who hang on every word Jerry Faulwell spews? I am very offended when people call me a feidler basher because it implys I actully bash people or do harm to them. For christ sakes grow up. If you want to ban every thing that offends 1 person we will all be forced to sit in front of our computer, and do nothing but say how great Miami is and every point is brilliant. The word was not used to reference what the person is thinking, and it has been aceptable for years to use to reference many different things in many form of media. My screen name is 1 million times more offensive than the word maffia, and no one has tried to ban me yet. This person who wrote this email reminds of this old saying "your an Fing idiot!"
 
1 more thing. Unlike Muck I do not apolagize if I seemed calous or insensative. Infact I set out to be both of those things. If this person gets their way it will mean we all our just 1 step closer to sitting with AC Slater, the fat redhead kid from the partridge family, and Dick Clark, disscusing how women shouldn't over accesorise.
 
Definition of Mafia..
http://www.alleged-mafia-site.com/definitions.htm

Notice how all cultures & races is part of it.

"This is no different then calling someone with a German background a Nazi, or a black person a n*gger or a 'coon'. Or a Hispanic person a wetback"

Well, it's completely different! A Nazi is exclusive to Germans. The term Wet back is exclusive to ( I don't even know, Mexicans is it?)
& Of course the N-word is exclusive to African Americans. The only way to make it an exclusive racial remark to Italians is to use the term Grease ball.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the term "Fiedler Mafia". I can think of a million other things on the Internet that are really offensive & can be obtained by just a click of the mouse.

Being all P.C. is fine & all that. As long as it doesn't stifle genuine harmless ideas that shouldn't be over analyzed.
 
Originally posted by Dajesus
1 more thing. Unlike Muck I do not apolagize if I seemed calous or insensative. Infact I set out to be both of those things. If this person gets their way it will mean we all our just 1 step closer to sitting with AC Slater, the fat redhead kid from the partridge family, and Dick Clark, disscusing how women shouldn't over accesorise.
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dajesus, how do you really feel about it!:lol:
 
Just to let everyone know, this person didn't send me the email because he was offended. Instead, he sent it to me simply to give me a heads up. He just wanted to let me know of the possibility that someone could, indeed, be offended by those terms. In addition, he stated this to me simply because he didn't want this to turn into a Dolphin Digest board, or the Miami Herald board where everyone insults each other.

Saying that, I think I got the idea that the majority of the boards aren't offended by the term "Fiedler Mafia." If someone was offended, I'm sorry... but you didn't speak up.

Thanks for your input everyone... I appreciate it.
 
It's a public forum for crying out loud. People will have something to say. If people are so sensitive with what is said then they shouldn't read the newpapers, watch t.v. or join public forums,etc. This will happen.

As long as demeaning words are not directed to a particular person (insults) . I see nothing wrong. ( Just an opinion by a SMART billsfan.lol)

Besides , Fiedler is not Italian.
 
The word mafia is associated mainly with Italian heritage as much as nazi with the german heritage yet neither word is "owned" by neither heritage.

Nazi: Nazi is an abbreviation of National Socialist. It means nothing else than the the believer in Nazi-sm believes that your own nation comes first and foremost (National) and believes in the ideologies of Socialism. Germany just gave Nazi-sm a very bad rep.

You all received the explanaition of "Mafia" already.

Some people get very easily offended, some don't. I don't get offended very easily and I could care less what someone calls me or someone else.

Now, having said that: DT is of course using a filter as well and we have put names in there like "fee-fee" as much as many vulgar words. In my opinion: players coaches and employees of professional franchises browse the internet. And don't think they are not reading messageboards. They are humans just like we are, with computers etc....and of course kids who probably browse the internet as well. My question arises: what if a child of a player ((any player) reads that his father is a "jerk", has big ears, should be killed, belongs to a mafia etc.....

My question must also be directed at posters: why can one not argue without resorting to name calling in ANY way. I doubt you can walk into a bar and call someone names just because you disagree with that person.

Now, I am not admining any messageboard but the day will not arrive where I visit messageboards where anybody can just "insult" because they run out of arguments and facts and lack the inteligence to have a fruitful discussion.
 
Well I am Italian and I have been called alot of names to try and insult me... I have to say Mafia was never one of them...
Would Fiedler Gang be offensive?
C'mon... it is not racial... Maybe if Fiedler was Italian it could maybe be remotely offensive... but I doubt it..
 
I am just offended because they won't let me in it. I have defended Fiedler just about as hard as anybody.

Moving along to the subject at hand

If HBO can show "the Sopranoes" for however many seasons they have, I don't see where we can come anywhere close to
offending anybody with "Fiedler Mafia" unless there is some guy in the real mafia that really hates Jay. I am also guessing that getting in the real mafia might be easier than becoming part of Jays.
 
Originally posted by davster82
I am just offended because they won't let me in it. I have defended Fiedler just about as hard as anybody.

Moving along to the subject at hand

If HBO can show "the Sopranoes" for however many seasons they have, I don't see where we can come anywhere close to
offending anybody with "Fiedler Mafia" unless there is some guy in the real mafia that really hates Jay. I am also guessing that getting in the real mafia might be easier than becoming part of Jays.
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Have you filled out that application yet?
 
The Words Nazi, Jew, N****, and other racial slurs are usually directed at an individual as a description, you never hear anybody walking around calling somebody a stupid Mafia, IMO it is name for a group it has never been said with the intent to harm or demean anyone. It is in know way a racial slur against anybody.

If anyone was to be offended it would be because of the appearance of the group trying to be tough/bad ass people. The biggest example is that group of kids from Colombine calling themselves the Trenchcoat Mafia.
 
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