Bills looking to jump Dolphins for a QB?

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  1. SkapePhin

    SkapePhin Rump Shaker Finheaven VIP Donator

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    They just traded Cordy Glenn to move up to #12 with Bengals. They still have another 1st round pick from KC and a ton of other ammo (http://buffalonews.com/2018/03/09/how-many-draft-picks-will-the-bills-have-after-tyrod-taylor-trade/) to move up further. It's clear that is their strategy, especially after trading Tyrod.

    The question is, which QB are they targeting? This could force Dolphins into a trade up if they are also targeting a QB lest they end up with the guy they want in their division...
     
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    Miami may have to trade picks in 2019 to move up. They don’t have the fire power Buffalo does. I wouldn’t do that. But I’m not Mike Tannenbaum.
     
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    Maybe our smokescreen is working.

    Yea right.
     
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    Absolutely. I posted this idea awhile ago. I wouldn't be shocked to see Buffalo try to go up to the Giants pick, maybe Indy.

    The thing to watch here is whether Miami ends up giving up the 2019 number one, which should be extremely high.
     
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    But we don't have the Firepower to move up ahead of them plus we don't have a deal maker like they have that can pull it off
     
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    Sony Weaver is pulling double time in both Cleveland and Buffalo it seems.
     
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    I want to believe.
     
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    Buffalo is setting themselves up perfectly to be the Patriots ‘ heir apparent by 2020. And the Jets are still a major wildcard with all the money in the world. Dolphins have no room for error.
     
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    If it's true they want to draft Mayfield, then why move up? He's not a guy teams are going to trade up to draft in the top five. IMO he will be there at 11.
     
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    What’s really funny to me is that a slightly above average LT got the Bills up 9 spots, but people don’t think Tannehill could get Miami from 11 to 5
     
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    As you get higher in the first. Picks have more value
     
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    This is a scary situation for me as a fan. You just don’t know how serious Miami is about drafting one of these questionable QB’s. Without the draft picks that Buffalo has it most probably means, trading picks in 2019 and a likely 1st rounder. Big mistake. Especially once you take into consideration how deep the 2019 draft will be at DL.
     
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    If you believe one of these QBs is a franchise changer, at this point I think you just got to do what you can to make sure that player doesn't end up in the division torching them for the next decade plus... Since we are blowing it all up anyway I wouldn't even mind jumping up to take the coveted QB and keep them out of the division. I'd wait to see what's available at 5 with the Broncos, because jumping up any higher would be too rich for the Dolphins to do though. If Allen, Mayfield or Rosen are sitting there at 5 and Bills are trying to jump up, go ahead and trade Tannehill and a 2 or 3 to move up to the spot.

    Might as well be bold and take a chance at this point.
     
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    Locke They looked like strong hands.

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    Wow. So that’s what a competent front office looks like. Flipped a player they had no intention of keeping for 8 spots up the first round of the draft.

    We better damn well hope that if it’s true we want a QB, it’s not the same one they want.
     
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    Yeah, I don’t see how we move up and bypass the Bills. We don’t have the capital to compete or many horses left to trade.

    In lieu of recent activity, seems best to stand pat and wait for BPA to fall at #11. Or listen to offers and trade down for extra picks.
     
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    This is why I'd rather just trade Tannehill at this point and retain next year's 1st... because that first round pick will probably be a high one.
     
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    Miami has no bearing on what Buffalo is trying to do.
     
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    Buffalo better hope they hit on the qb cause their WRs suck and OL is pretty meh.
     
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    Locke They looked like strong hands.

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    Are you serious? The Bills might as well have a giant flashing neon light that says they plan to trade up for a QB. That means every single team in front of them who also wants a QB effects them. You think they aren’t acutely aware that Miami has been all up on Mayfield’s balls all offseason? You think they aren’t maneuvering to make sure they can offer something better than we can in the event we’re both after the same QB?
     
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    We ain't getting a QB. We ain't in the right spot with no fire power. Only shot we have If Denver takes Tannehill, and we give up our 1st this year , and 3rd round next year. Only way ....We need to face the facts that Buffalo has a better front office then us. T-Bum would've been fired anywhere else by now..
     
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    If Miami trades its first next year I'm done with them. We have too many holes and just like you said, next years first should be pretty high.
     
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    Mayfield could be there at 11. We can't rebuild by trading away high picks. We need to keep our picks and make them count. If we use Tannehill to move up for Mayfield then all we're doing is swapping QB's while losing our first round pick. If Baker is there at 11 and they want him then fine, take him and THEN trade Tannehill for at least a 1st round pick and now you can start building your team

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Tannehill PLUS 1st and a 3rd next year? No way would it take that much to jump up like that... That would be murder. Tannehill is essentially worth a 2nd... and I'd say even more valuable than a 2nd because he is a sure thing as a decent starting QB... and VJ DESPERATELY needs that if he is to keep his job past next year.
     
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    Buffalo has 2 picks in almost every round. They can offer way more than Miami at this point. Cincinnati didn’t do Miami any favors here by agreeing to just swap picks. With Tannenbaum at the helm, the 2019 draft is in peril? This guy will trade his Mother, if he had to; to make a slash. It’s like he’s living in a wet dream.
     
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    So they are the same situation as the Dolphins, is what you’re saying?
     
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    If I had $10 every time I read that on here I could buy the team.
     
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    Their FO is doing a good job so far in positioning themselves to get their QB in the first round.
     
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    I think people highly overestimate Tannys value on this site. I really don't think Tyrod Taylor is seen around the league as having much less value if any. Particularly after the injuries.
     
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    if they can't move we are in a sweet spot for someone to come get their qb directly in front of them and trump them

    no doubt they are all in on qb
     
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    We aren't moving up
     
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    I think so too
     
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    At this point Hoops, I’d love to see Miami trade down. Especially after what’s transpired over the last few days.
     
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    depends on the board chief and the offer
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    buffalo has to deal with weather so arm matters I'd say it would be josh allen or baker Mayfield

    doubt lamar Jackson when you consider a lot of what youd ask of him you asked of tyrod and frankly got it right not liking for the long term with tyrod at least
     
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    Fingers crossed it’s for Josh Allen
     
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    Locke They looked like strong hands.

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    That’s a gamble, though. If he is who they want, they’ve not hidden it well. If someone else wants him, it’ll be fairly easy to jump up into the top 10 to leapfrog us. If that’s Gase’s guy, I think you need to do whatever you can to make sure you get him.
     
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    Josh Allen to me looks like the ultimate boom / ultimate bust potential here. So if they pick him, fingers are crossed he's a damn bust.
     
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    I think it could be allen but to get there they gonna have to really throw pick 22 plus those other picks they picked up plus their 2019 first rounder plus more

    cause after his combine he's going way up there

    I think they want the pro style fit qb too ie the 5 and 7 step drop type

    think they had their fill of the athlete primary not much pocket play shelf life
     
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    I’m not going anywhere near Allen
     

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