Boston > Chambers

[texasPHINSfan]

There were about a half dozen plays tonight when Boston had beaten his man badly downfield and the ball didn't come his way. On one, he had his man beat by a good 10 yards but Frerotte overthrew him by another 10. When the CB tried to lock him up at the line, Boston literally tossed him aside and was all alone. I have no explanation for why they only look to him on those little screen plays.

i understand this. But again, virtual stats. Why don't you blame the QB for not throwing the ball to Boston when he goes deep?

 

[GRYPHONK]

its moronic because he is basing his opinion on faulty information.

If i think that Ricky was the best RB in 2004, and i proclaim it as such as my opinion, its a stupid opinion because he did not play last year.

To say that Chambers hasn't proven anything in his career and Boston has is also assinine, as their stats will attest to. I posted them pretty clear. Obviously the person who posted that comment only saw Boston's one stellar year and never looked at Chamber's stats. If you are going to criticize my post and attempt to condescend, at least respond to my points instead of taking it off-course.

Not taking anything off course, you are tip toeing the real issue here.

Boston has a pro bowl year,Chambers does not
Boston has a 1000 yard year Chambers has not

So to proclaim that Chambers is better based on stats is "assinine"

The moment you can deny those accolaids is the moment that I will truly be ignorant or moronic or whatever your new witty term is

 

[texasPHINSfan]

LOL interesting.

Did u not say that Boston has to show it against 1st stringers?
Did not Boston beat his CB on 2 plays that would have lead to a TD with an accurate throw?

This point is not about QB'S, do u comprehend anything?

It's saying with a accurate QB Boston would have easily had 2 TD'S tonight against 1st stringers. Frerotte happened to be the QB.

In the post u quoted me on, not once did I indicate that you had a grudge or a liking to either QB.

I also rebutted your lame argument (MORONIC because it's an opinion I know:shakeno: ) by showing you facts about the 1st string D and Boston.

and show me where any website keeps track of "could-have-been TD's" stats.

Boston can beat his DB on the first-string all day long, but if he isn't making any catches, then it doesn't mean anything. Blame frerotte if you want to, but don't blame chambers. You guys are sitting there saying Boston is better than chambers because of 2001. Outside of 2001 Boston hasn't done anything to prove he's better than Chambers.

If you want to blame frerotte, blame frerotte. I will won't proclaim any crazy comments of Boston being better than Chambers until i see some catches or yards before halftime, and/or its the regular season.

Frankly, NONE of you guys have any legs to stand on as Boston has not had a single regular-season catch as a dolphin, and Chambers was our yardage-leader last year. The way i see it, the leader has to be dethroned before someone else can be claimed the best on the team.

 

[GRYPHONK]

i understand this. But again, virtual stats. Why don't you blame the QB for not throwing the ball to Boston when he goes deep?

UMMMM, did you watch the game?

3 times Boston beat his 1st string defender.

3 times Frerotte badly overthrew him.

2 times would have been sure TD'S while another one would have been debatable.

We are blaming the QB, but according to you aren't we suppose to make this an argument about the D'S not the QB'S. Wait now we are supposed to blame the QB'S.

Oh man oh man, keep tip toeing

 

[GRYPHONK]

and show me where any website keeps track of "could-have-been TD's" stats.

Boston can beat his DB on the first-string all day long, but if he isn't making any catches, then it doesn't mean anything. Blame frerotte if you want to, but don't blame chambers. You guys are sitting there saying Boston is better than chambers because of 2001. Outside of 2001 Boston hasn't done anything to prove he's better than Chambers.

If you want to blame frerotte, blame frerotte. I will won't proclaim any crazy comments of Boston being better than Chambers until i see some catches or yards before halftime, and/or its the regular season.

Frankly, NONE of you guys have any legs to stand on as Boston has not had a single regular-season catch as a dolphin, and Chambers was our yardage-leader last year. The way i see it, the leader has to be dethroned before someone else can be claimed the best on the team.

Yet, I have yet to make the statement that I think Boston is a better WR.

 

[texasPHINSfan]

Not taking anything off course, you are tip toeing the real issue here.

Boston has a pro bowl year,Chambers does not
Boston has a 1000 yard year Chambers has not

So to proclaim that Chambers is better based on stats is "assinine"

The moment you can deny those accolaids is the moment that I will truly be ignorant or moronic or whatever your new witty term is

you pick two stats that Boston trumps Chambers on. I can pick two stats that Chambers trumps Boston on. what does that prove?

Chambers has produced his ENTIRE career. Boston hasn't produced the "earth-shattering" stats that you love so much since 2001. He is four years removed from that year, when he was younger and probably in better shape (and pre-surgery). Boston is 4 years older from that time, and no longer the #1 WR, and a surgery or two under his belt, not to mention on a team with crappy QBs and a dearth of good WRs. What makes you think he'll repeat? thats what i want to know.

 

[texasPHINSfan]

Yet, I have yet to make the statement that I think Boston is a better WR.

then why the hell are you posting in this thread and trying to antagonize me? I was engaged with enigmatics when you came in and started stirring the pot.

If you don't feel that Boston is better than Chambers, then we are in accordance and you need to drop it.

i'm out. this arguing is over a stupid point is just that.... stupid.

 

[GRYPHONK]

you pick two stats that Boston trumps Chambers on. I can pick two stats that Chambers trumps Boston on. what does that prove?

Chambers has produced his ENTIRE career. Boston hasn't produced the "earth-shattering" stats that you love so much since 2001. He is four years removed from that year, when he was younger and probably in better shape (and pre-surgery). Boston is 4 years older from that time, and no longer the #1 WR, and a surgery or two under his belt, not to mention on a team with crappy QBs and a dearth of good WRs. What makes you think he'll repeat? thats what i want to know.

If what you say is true and we haven't seen Boston truly do anything with this team yet.

How can YOU sit there and say he won't be better then Chambers and it's moronic to think so?

THats the point here. I could care less which one is better, I like them both.

But can't stand when people like u make comments about how someone elses post is stupid or "Moronic" because he thinks such and such is better then who and who.

 

[GRYPHONK]

then why the hell are you posting in this thread and trying to antagonize me? I was engaged with enigmatics when you came in and started stirring the pot.

If you don't feel that Boston is better than Chambers, then we are in accordance and you need to drop it.

i'm out. this arguing is over a stupid point is just that.... stupid.

LOL peace!!!!

 

[tucker]

Yet, I have yet to make the statement that I think Boston is a better WR.

WOW

 

[GRYPHONK]

WOW

LOL what?

 

[Fresh]

Let's try this:

Booker > the other receivers.

He's the guy without the serious injuries who has been to the Pro Bowl.

QED

smh @ Booker better than Chambers. Yeah, he is a more polished route runner, but that's it to me. A few years ago he was, but right now I don't see him being a better receiver. Booker to me seems more suited as the #3 WR on this team. Right now, Chambers is our most complete receiver. I question Booker's ability to hold on to a well-challenged ball(whether it's a ball not perfectly thrown, or tight coverage), and he's not a guy who is great down the field, although he's pretty good down there for his speed. With that said, he's not the most complete receiver on this team, therefore I'd have a problem with calling him "better" than Chris Chambers. More proven? Yeah, that's a better statement.

1-Chambers
2-Boston
3-Booker
4-Welker
5-Gilmore

That's how I think the WR's will eventually be, and if Boston gets it/keeps it together(depends on where you rate him as of now) and remains healthy, I wouldn't be surprised to see him develop as the go-2-guy.

 

[GRYPHONK]

smh @ Booker better than Chambers. Yeah, he is a more polished route runner, but that's it to me. A few years ago he was, but right now I don't see him being a better receiver. Booker to me seems more suited as the #3 WR on this team. Right now, Chambers is our most complete receiver. I question Booker's ability to hold on to a well-challenged ball(whether it's a ball not perfectly thrown, or tight coverage), and he's not a guy who is great down the field, although he's pretty good down there for his speed. With that said, he's not the most complete receiver on this team, therefore I'd have a problem with calling him "better" than Chris Chambers. More proven? Yeah, that's a better statement.

1-Chambers
2-Boston
3-Booker
4-Welker
5-Gilmore

That's how I think the WR's will eventually be, and if Boston gets it/keeps it together(depends on where you rate him as of now) and remains healthy, I wouldn't be surprised to see him develop as the go-2-guy.

I agree

It's weird though because Booker up until sometime this year had the best hands of all our WR'S. Now he seems to be dropping many.

Has he been hanging out with Mcmichaels alot lately:goof:

 

[Fineas]

i understand this. But again, virtual stats. Why don't you blame the QB for not throwing the ball to Boston when he goes deep?

I do blame the QB. Stats don't tell the whole story, especially when you are talking about receivers, who have to rely on the QB to get them the ball in order to generate any stats.

 

[Jimmy James]

I agree

It's weird though because Booker up until sometime this year had the best hands of all our WR'S. Now he seems to be dropping many.

This year as in the preseason? Where are all these drops? Granted, I haven't seen tonight's game.

I don't think Marty's hands are going to fail this team.