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NEW YORK (AP) - Brian McNamee has turned over physical evidence that Roger Clemens' former trainer believes will show the seven-time Cy Young Award winner used performance-enhancing drugs, McNamee's attorneys told The New York Daily News.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7768248/Report:-Physical-evidence-could-damn-Clemens?FSO2&ATT=MA


I'm not a big Clemens fan, but man if this is true he will go down in history as a flithy cheater that lied like a rug to get out of it.

Part of me as a baseball fan hopes its nothing, but I think he is screwed!
 
as Scooby Doo would say: "Rut Roe Roger!"

that guy saved bloody syringes and cotton swabs for all these years? talk about "CYA!" kinda creepy though.
 
CharlestonPhan said:
as Scooby Doo would say: "Rut Roe Roger!"

that guy saved bloody syringes and cotton swabs for all these years? talk about "CYA!" kinda creepy though.
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Unless he thought something like this might happen and he kept it to save his butt?
Or he was looking to cash in and blackmail Roger in the future?
 
While I think Clemens is guilty, didnt Roger admit that McNamee injected him w/ B12 shots? So this "evidence" only proves that he injected Clemens with something, which hasnt been disputed. It doesnt prove that the substance was steroids does it?
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
Unless he thought something like this might happen and he kept it to save his butt?
Or he was looking to cash in and blackmail Roger in the future?
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That's what I tend to think. McNamee prolly just held on to this stuff as an insurance policy should he ever need it. And if what has been reported is true then Clemens is going down.
 
PrepDogg said:
That's what I tend to think. McNamee prolly just held on to this stuff as an insurance policy should he ever need it. And if what has been reported is true then Clemens is going down.
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He did, it came up on the news last night that he feared Clemens would deny taking them so he kept it to save his own skin.
 
NJFINSFAN1 said:
Unless he thought something like this might happen and he kept it to save his butt?
Or he was looking to cash in and blackmail Roger in the future?
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C'mon. Why all the cynicism? McNamee is just a baseball memorabilia guy :D
 
What concerns me is what kind of person saves this kind of crap? Bloody needles? Gauze? Creepy.
 
I'm gonna agree...kinda strange this guy is holding onto bloody syringes from 6-7 years ago. We're gonna have to see how this one plays out. :err:
 
DonShula84 said:
While I think Clemens is guilty, didnt Roger admit that McNamee injected him w/ B12 shots? So this "evidence" only proves that he injected Clemens with something, which hasnt been disputed. It doesnt prove that the substance was steroids does it?
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the sad thing is, this is roger clemens playing stupid... and using it as a defense. im sure him and mcnamee had this secret little code for his HGH shots as b12 injections... and sadly enough clemens is going to use it as his phoney defense and simply say.. "oh i didnt know that! he told me it was b12, i trusted him" which i bet is total BS...

personally i think clemens is lying like a rug on this one... just like barry bonds... i hope the truth comes out in both cases... these guys should be ahsamed..
 
Clemens' wife accused of using HGH

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It's become a daily routine: A new element of Brian McNamee's "I injected Roger Clemens with steroids and human growth hormone" story emerges -- and Clemens' attorneys call the pitcher's former personal trainer a liar.
The latest, and quite possibly oddest, twist involves Clemens' wife.

McNamee told congressional investigators he injected Debbie Clemens with HGH -- at the seven-time Cy Young Award winner's direction -- before the couple posed for a 2003 Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition photo shoot, a lawyer familiar with his testimony said Friday.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/02/08/clemenswife.HGH.ap/index.html
 
I could have started a new thread on this, but I'll just add it here since it's on Clemens juicing.

I think this statistical analysis is more convincing of Clemens cheating than this "physical" evidence.

The Penn professors did their own examination of pitchers who had durability similar to that of Clemens, using parameters that included pitchers who started at least 10 games in at least 15 seasons and pitched at least 3,000 innings since 1968. Thirty-one pitchers fell into this group, in addition to Clemens.

The examination focused on comparing two common pitching stats -- ERA and walks plus hits per nine innings -- from those in the sample group to Clemens' numbers. The professors found Clemens' late-career success was statistically unusual. Most pitchers in this category peaked with their best numbers around the age of 30, while their declines started in their mid-30s -- about the time Clemens has been accused of using performance-enhancing drugs. Clemens has vehemently denied using steroids or HGH. However, the Penn professors found that Clemens' statistics did the opposite of those of the rest of the sample. They wrote that the Rocket's stats declined as he neared his 30th birthday, then spiked in his late 30s and early 40s.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3239471
 
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