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Brian Billick, Mike Golic agree: Miami Dolphins shouldn’t draft Ryan Tannehill

canaleah said:
good point. Now how will you react when Tannenhill is a 3rd stringer to start the year. Paying him big money to be barely beat out Pat Devlin? Are you kidding me?

Getting a QB this high is only worth it if he can start right away.

The difference between Tannenhill and Brock is not huge...not worth almost a complete round worth. Both need experience. Both will need to sit for at least a year.

I think tannenhill will be great but when you have 8 gM's saying he's the 18th or 19th best player, you're out of your mind to get him at 8. Again, just my opinion.
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Who cares where he starts out the year? I'm interested in where he finishes. Rookie contracts aren't that big anymore, there isnt as much pressure to start a QB early now. Also, I believe Tannehill could get up to speed fairly quickly in Miami. Isn't it the same offense he ran in college?
 
Zounds said:
Completely taken out of context. They said we shouldn't draft Tannehill....if the reason why is to quiet the media perception that we cant get the guys we target. Other than that, they say if we feel he is a rfranchise QB, then we should draft him. Very misleading thread title.
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Good catch. This thread title is totally disingenuous. You cut the sentence, you remove the context and offer up a point completely separate from what they said. It's fueled 4 pages of people debating nothing.
 
Tannehill at 8 is bad value. Tannehill at 20 isn't even good value. The guy is, IMO, a bit of a project. It isn't just the experience that is at issue. It's his overall mechanics: footwork, point of release, locking in on a specific receiver, reading defenses. I'm not certain that, even sitting a year or two, he will be a franchise guy. A lot of question marks...too many to take him high. If he was available in the 2nd, I'd take the chance, but there is way too much "sure" talent at #8 to take a chance on a QB that has, via the media, shot up the boards. I think we can get just as good quality at QB waiting until the second round. I'd rather see if Blackmon is there at 8. That's a huge need and a talented guy WAY more worthy of #8 than Tannehill. If not, there are plenty of other options at 8, including trading back and acquiring more picks.
 
PogiRo said:
We have Sherman. Whatever he says will have a lot more weight than anyone else.
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This I think is key to the decision on if he's there do we draft him or not. Personally I think he's a huge reach and not our answer to the QB problem but I didn't coach him everyday at colege. Sherman shouldknow him better than anyone, and if he's convinced about Tannehill enough that Ireland and Philbin select him at #8 then we have to trust them on this one, despite our reservations.
 
The comparison to Russell is an insult to Tannehill. I was listening to NFL of Sirius and they took apart Billick's position.
For one thing, Tannehill is a coach's son and is more devoted to football with a MUCH stronger work ethic than Russell ever had.
Secondly, he played behind a well regarded Sr QB his Jr yr and he volunteered to play WR (he excelled there too) just to get on the field.
While playing WR he also attended all of the QB meetings IN ADDITION to his positional (receiver) meetings.
Other than the fact that they are both good athletes who happend to play QB, there is no legitimate comparison.
The Phins passed on Rodgers and Brees and have lived to regret it after both DEVELOPED into elite QB's. Neither one of them was ready to start their rookie yrs.
 
Let's be real. Over the past few years this organization has been terrible and if you think were going to draft a QB your crazy. We will take the lineman out of Iowa
 
the stories go on and on with Spielman. McIntosh was brought, signed and they realized he was injured. Or when they had Wale Ogunleye and insisted on nothing less than a 2nd. They got not a third, but Marty Booker. What about Eddie Moore drafted and he was out playing basketball because he thought he was a 5th round pick. We drafted him in the 3rd.

He might be agreat guy, but don't forget...Zygi would've dropped everything to have Parcells run their organization. That speaks volumes.

I am a long-suffering dolphin fan. Now is our time to shine.
 
Am I the only one that finds the heading misleading?

The writeup doesn't say they shouldn't draft Tannehill, what they are both saying is that Miami shouldn't do it to quiet the critics if they (Miami) feel Tannehill isn't the answer to the QB conundrum.

I love the play on words anymore to grab attention, they (Billick and Golic) both raise valid concerns but that is the risk. If Miami likes the kid, take him and be done with it, if not do what you think is best, I agree with Billick and Golic on that point, do not take him because of fan and media pressure, take him because you think he is the answer.
 
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canaleah said:
good point. Now how will you react when Tannenhill is a 3rd stringer to start the year. Paying him big money to be barely beat out Pat Devlin? Are you kidding me?

Getting a QB this high is only worth it if he can start right away.
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Here's the problem.

Too much looking at $$$ and "value" instead of trying to find PLAYERS who can help us WIN.

ireland belongs in the corporate money-making world where the balance sheet is all that counts. NOT as GM of a sports franchise. We are going to have to throw $$$ at the QB position until we get it solved and being cheap will never get us anywhere.
 
And there is a reason why Tannehill is getting all this discussion instead of weeden or cousins or osweiler.

It's because the people "in the know" realize that Tannehill is THE THIRD BEST QB in this draft due to intrinsic talent, athleticism and potential. NO ONE ANYWHERE calls for any of the other guys to go #8. NO ONE. THEY are the "projects".... why must we settle for the bottom-feeders at the elite positions?
 
Ireland isn't going to take a QB just to take one. So the discussion between tubby and Billick really means nothing.

The thread title does need fixed.
 
iwastherein72 said:
Here's the problem.

Too much looking at $$$ and "value" instead of trying to find PLAYERS who can help us WIN.

ireland belongs in the corporate money-making world where the balance sheet is all that counts. NOT as GM of a sports franchise. We are going to have to throw $$$ at the QB position until we get it solved and being cheap will never get us anywhere.
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How can you say that when this guy was head of Cowboys national scouting. Ireland is a master scout. He'd rather be out scouting every minute of the day. Whether he becomes a great GM remains to be seen. All indications are good though.

He has to prove he can draft quality o-linemen though. He is right now top 10 GM in the league and the best in our division...hands down.
 
canaleah said:
How can you say that when this guy was head of Cowboys national scouting. Ireland is a master scout. He'd rather be out scouting every minute of the day. Whether he becomes a great GM remains to be seen. All indications are good though.

He has to prove he can draft quality o-linemen though. He is right now top 10 GM in the league and the best in our division...hands down.
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not sure if serious?
 
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